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SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Jsor posted:

E: As long as this doesn't get too massive, feel free to suggest more reviewers. Please write a short blurb explaining what they do because I don't always know and it's not always self-evident from their youtube/blip page.

I'd like to suggest Folding Ideas. He's not a very frequent producer, averages about one episode every two months, but he's one of the very, very few that can write a review that can make you think about a movie in new ways, or able to watch it again with a more critical eye and see film in a new light. His episode on End of Evangelion is my personal favourite, the way he deconstructs the movie is like watching open heart surgery, cutting right through the surface of the movie down to the heart of what it's trying to say.

And in that same line of thought, there's Every Frame a Painting, which isn't a review show so much as a series of lessons on how to not suck at making movies, done by a professional editor. It's fascinating to watch him rundown how masters of the craft do their magic. Best part is that he keeps his videos short, which is always a plus for me. Here's his video on Michael Bay, which I think is a pretty good way to get how he approaches his subjects.

Errant Signal is, again, a deeper look at media, this time video games, that talks about not just whether or not a game works, but what any given game is trying to say through the context of interactive stories, even when a game completely lacks a story. His video on Bioshock Infinite is basically exactly the same as a video I would make about Bioshock, if I made videos about video games.

I could probably think of more, but these are the three that pop into my head that you don't already have in the OP.

SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jan 14, 2015

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SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Puppy Time posted:

Would it be good to identify critics who are goons in the OP? I know it took me a little bit to realize that one of the thread posters was actually Lupa, f'rex.

Nah. There's not really much point since they're either gonna talk about their own stuff or remark on tangents that can relate to their work. No reason to try to separate them from the conversation with the asterisk "THIS IS AN INTERNET REVIEWER" since for the most part they make their presence known by talking like professionals. (HA!)

SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Jan 14, 2015

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

DoctorWhat posted:

I don't read comics other than Cucumber Quest and More than Meets the Eye, you don't have to worry about me going all BSS.

Paranatural is also really good and the author is best buds with the author for Cucumber Quest. Go read that when you get the chance.

Mraagvpeine posted:

I was skimming the older thread and noticed that no one talked about his Inuyasha review. I would've thought there would be some reaction to his... skit in there.

I'm honestly more surprised nobody brings up his porn cameos.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

DStecks posted:

My question is how long it's going to take for children's television to just outright die, now that it's clear that in the digital era, kids are quite content to watch silly people play video games on YouTube.

Are you just naturally this dumb or do you actually have to work at it?

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
The Angry Video Game Nerd movie is up on YouTube. But it's only for rent. Costs me about $6.49 to watch, anyone else?

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Angry Joe released his 10 Gaming Controversies video. Watching it right now.

I hadn't actually paid any attention to the Hatred controversy, but holy poo poo, actually seeing the game, I think Valve were completely in the right to remove it from Steam, so to hear that they put the game back up and apologized to the developers gives me a sick feeling deep, deep in my gut. And hearing Joe struggling to defend that decision, but coming up with no reason to defend it ("parenting!" is not a good defense) makes me feel even worse.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
The last third of the video is, naturally, GamerGate.

I don't think Joe "gets" what make GamerGate bad.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Tony Zhau put out a couple more videos, focusing on shapes within a scene and shapes on the actual screen. It's simple stuff but works wonders at making a film more watchable.

Also, I know most reviewers here stick with the typical, static mugshot for the bulk of a video review's runtime, but for skits and stuff, how do you guys plan your camera work and scenes? I'm specifically thinking of Kyle's stuff right now, like Melancholia and Beauty and the Beast, as both reviews had skits that dramatically improved the review itself. I'm curious how those ideas translate behind the scenes, or if they're ever a consideration beyond "this looks good/bad" gut feelings?

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Mars4523 posted:

It's almost like The Escapist is trying to self destruct.

If they wanted to do that they'd fire Yahtzee. Until then they'll have enough site traffic to keep themselves afloat, though yeah, losing the two other big names that draw in traffic isn't painting a rosy picture for the site's future. What else do they have, Unskippable?

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Tracula posted:

I know this might come off as overly hostile but what is it like to have to look at every single thing and find a grand metaphor for something larger? Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe and sometimes a poo poo movie is just a poo poo movie not a grand deconstruction of our societal feelings about race and the place of minorities in it and etc.

Hate to say this but even poo poo movies are trying to impart some kind of message to the audience, intentionally or not. Which feels really weird to say, cause this is the critics thread, unless you're just reading the posts and not watching any of the shows it should be pretty obvious. Like, reading between the lines of the script, shot, directing, and marketing of a movie is the better part of these people's job.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

echopapa posted:

If you liked Jill Bearup’s discussion of her video income, you’ll like Lindsay Ellis’ video about her tax situation.

How... the gently caress... does a taxable income of $100,000... get a tax rate of loving 2%!?!? DOWN from the higher 10%?!!!? While people under that bracket are taxed 30% or MORE?!?!?

... I must be missing something, but it's too late at night for me to be delving into the tax system of a country I don't even live in.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

HorseRenoir posted:

Isn't a huge point of shaky cam that it prevents understanding?

A huge point of shaky cam is to hide lovely cinematography and save money on reshoots. Why try to find a better angle to make everything look good when you can just shake the camera around? General audiences can't tell the difference anyway.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Just wait another five pages, one or the other will crack when commenting on a new topic. Though I am glad they're embracing the thread's title so strongly.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Not if they come prepared with a ring and boxing gloves. :v:

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

who the gently caress holds a mug like that?! ARE YOU TOO COOL FOR HANDLES IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY?

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Well that's pretty completely horrifying.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
A new Every Frame a Painting, this time focusing on Kurosawa and movement.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Huh. Seems like Kyle has taken to being a teacher for a term, and his first class is on terminology in movies, specifically focusing on the camera.

Also, I don't bring up SFDebris enough, but somebody asked him to do Gurren Lagann, which is probably gonna be entertaining as hell because it's just so dumb.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

It's not really a troll IMO, and the western fan base has built some really wierd myths around its production.

Yeah, we do know some things but there's just as much misinformation and out of context quotes reinforcing whatever viewpoint you subscribe to than any actual, hard evidence of what really happened, and the fact that most interviews he's quoted from are originally in Japanese exaggerates things further.

But then the same thing happens with western entertainment all the time, gossip and second hand stories become facts and trivia for basically any movie or TV show you can think of. Lot of people put the story in their head as factual before reading up on anything that could be considered true. Look at The Hobbit as one example, dozens of hours of behind the scenes footage and you'll still get people saying Peter Jackson is a hack who did CGI everything because he's lazy when that's not even remotely true.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Cubey posted:

Not that I am necessarily defending them, but the simple fact is that people would rather watch videos of someone talking about why they hate something rather than why they like it. There's more room for comedy material when you're explaining why you dislike something, and speaking from my own experience, explaining why you don't like something is a lot easier than explaining why you do. It's no surprise that negative reviewers draw larger audiences, even if a lot of them kinda suck at what they do.

It's interesting to watch reviewers whose styles have more or less been relatively uninfluenced by others and see how they work. Yahtzee, for example, is just as capable of making a negative review of a game as entertaining as a positive review of a game, and hell, at a glance you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference, just because his style is so tailored towards making jokes at the expense of the game that he'll do it for every game. As another example, Good Bad Flicks goes into most movies with the expectation that there is something there to enjoy, and even when he doesn't end up liking the movie, he'll find something in there that's worth appreciating. And while RiffTrax aren't exactly movie reviewers, they do have the chops to make even good movies funnier to watch while they joke about it.

Really, I think finding an audience has less to do with being negative than it does with being entertaining. A lot of people just so happen to find that it's easier to be entertaining when you're being negative.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

achillesforever6 posted:

http://channelawesome.com/pop-quiz-hotshot-pilot-episode/
Good lord how can they be this incompetent; this is the "improved" show too. :stare:

I get the distinct impression they did absolutely no research, didn't ask anybody in the industry for advice, and tried to get everything setup without actually thinking about how the end product would work.

I'm watching it right now and it's loving dreadful. Who the hell decided the premise of the show would be holding people hostage and threatening to kill them if they don't answer questions correctly?!? Like... how disconnected from the world do you have to be to think that would be a good idea? How would you even build a decent game show out of that?

EDIT: Also the questions are all over the place, with no rhythm or reason beyond "it's from the 80's/90's". Hey, guys, Jeopardy has categories for a reason...

SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Mar 31, 2015

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Okay, let's breakdown some of the very obvious things they've done wrong here.

- No introductions. Who the gently caress are your contestants, Max and John? I don't know, the show doesn't say, so gently caress'em. Personality? History? Aspirations? Job? Who cares! Let them answer questions and say nothing else!
- Piss poor intro, which happens after the first event? Why? You need to set poo poo up first. Theme song, host, contestants, point of the show, rules, how to win, gently caress that, cold open on a loving dollar store fishing game!!
- No audience. It's dead silence in there, no excitement or clapping or anything, just dead.
- No dividing up the questions. TV questions follow commercial questions follow toy questions follow video game questions follow gossip questions. There's no telling what the next question could be! So you better hope you know basically everything about the 90's!
- No actual "game" in this "game show". Hey, you ever notice how Jeopardy lets the contestants pick their questions? Or how Who Wants To Be A Millionaire not only

Hold the phone why is there a question about the Summer Olympics Bombing just kinda thrown in the pile?!?! After one about Captain Planet?! What the actual gently caress?

Anyway WWTBAM has multiple choice questions, but they also have options like polling the audience, phoning a friend, or just walking away with the money you've already won. See, it's not just questions/answers, there's an actual game involved, and it adds a lot to making the show more watchable when people can do more than just stand there and hit a buzzer. Which brings us to!
- No pacing. You ever watch The Price Is Right? Those guys are masters at pacing a game show. They get that there needs to be some tension going on to get that excitement happening. If things just went "right, wrong, wrong, right, wrong, right, right, winner!" then the audience is lost and bored. There needs to be that little pause after every question, that little "are you sure? Do you want to change your mind? Alright, and the actual retail price is..." to build up doubt, to get people thinking about what if they're wrong, or what if they're right!? That reminds me.
- No prizes. Seriously? $200, and we only know that at the end of the episode. Okay, no, tell us what the prize is first thing, like that's what's slotted in between introducing the contestants and telling us the rules. Those are literally the stakes for the entire show, you can't tell us what the stakes are after the show is over. This is not Ender's Game.

Just an aside I'm watching Price is Right right now and drat Drew Carrey slimmed down.

So yeah, this show is a loving disaster. Like drat, there is just no effort put into this. It's weird. You'd think, when they put in the effort to get a studio, they'd mic it right. When they put in the effort to build a set, they'd light it right. When they get people in to play their game, they'd have a game to play and not a loving paper maze.

Just to prove they have no loving clue what they're doing, I googled "game shows in Chicago" and found that you can literally hire a higher quality game show for your birthday party. They could have called any of these guys up and asked them for advice, and they didn't.

SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Apr 1, 2015

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
In other NC news, he reviewed TNMT 2014 with the AVGN. It's... meh. Very meh.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

DoctorWhat posted:

Windows XP being used to set something in The Past is so strange to me.

That's a sign you need to upgrade your operating system and possibly even your entire PC.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Celebrating one year of Every Frame a Painting by looking at F for Fake :toot:

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

hopeandjoy posted:

This is kinda going against the crowd, but I honestly don't think Madoka is that great. I don't know if I'm just burnt out after 4 years of it being The Thing or if it's something like some people's reaction to Eva in that the merchandise is kinda creepy and undermines the show or if I just really, really miss good Magical Girl series made by women for girls. I'm not saying it isn't good, but it's not OMG the best series ever and no other magical girl series has ever done something like this!!!!111!!

Yeah, that's why it's mostly recommended for people who aren't into anime as a kinda gateway drug. It's not the most hardcore poo poo in the coat pocket but it's interesting enough that people will ask what else is in there.

EDIT: that list reminded me, I never actually watched the second season of Ghost in the Shell. At the time I only had cable and YTV only ran the first season, which I only half remember now. Is it worth watching now?

SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Apr 2, 2015

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

DStecks posted:

I think this is part of what makes it work as an introductory anime, though. Setting aside Nina and Alexander, the show transitions into darker material fairly smoothly, so FMA03 functions as a combination "anime is wicked fun" and "anime is more than just silly cartoons" title.

*cold open on an experiment gone wrong resulting in one dead kid, one mutilated kid, one horrific reanimated corpse, and a lotta blood*

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Al-Saqr posted:

well I'm not well versed enough in feminist literature and dialogue to give any kind of opinion as to the levels of 'privilege' she might or might not have, but I agree that she's very brave for continuing to do what she's doing, that the level of toxicity and hate she's receiving is absolutely insane and should be fought back against. I personally would prefer her to start being a little more brazen and active in her videos (if she's going to get hounded anyways she might as well fight it full on.), but maybe she's not that type of person. It does seem like she has this 'academic outsider looking in' levels of superficiality, considering how the vast majority of her audience are already gamers she could go in deeper and go a little more head-on with the way she expresses herself.

It's less to do with personality and more to do with having that poo poo infecting your life. It's very easy to say you'll fight back against trolls on a forum when there's so many degrees of separation between you and the people you're fighting against, but when they start calling your house or threatening places you go to, that's a very different level of real and it's scary, scary poo poo.

She could be as antagonistic as a Teletubbie and people will still throw insults at her, and really, the points she's making are not meant to be antagonistic to begin with, even if the people who are against her take them as such. I don't see much point in starting to kick an anthill when it's already ten feet tall.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

admataY posted:

To wash over the awful game politics discussion of the last few page, here is a fun breezy look at the call of duty series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvN51r1o1Nc

Yay, a critic video in the critic thread! And a guy I haven't seen before, too, so he's got a bunch of videos for me to check out.

... multiple 40-minute to hour long videos.... thank god I just got fired and have nothing to do for the rest of the week.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Hey. You know that one guy that reviews transformer toys with an obscenely charming british accent? You know that one series where he reviews the really bad knock-offs of said toys that hasn't seen a new episode in years?

Here's the new episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKv5E1cl3CU

I started watching his stuff because of the last Knockoff Beatdown, so I've been looking forward to this one.

EDIT: Holy poo poo I actually owned that Splinter one when I was a kid! ...what the hell is that thing doing being sold in 2015?

SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Apr 6, 2015

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Lindsey dropped a new Loose Cannon for Captain America.

EDIT: After watching, I'm kinda surprised she didn't bring up the question of why Captain America has any international appeal, or at least talk about the subject of nationality defining who somebody is.

SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Apr 13, 2015

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Yvonmukluk posted:

I wouldn't be surprised if Death wins/won the vote due to Terry Pratchett's recent passing bringing Discworld to the front of people's minds. I expect to see a fair bit of Hogfather footage in that.

I'm also kind of interested Lindsay didn't look into the specific historical context that Steve Rogers the character would have developed in, specifically as a New Deal Democrat (and fine arts student).

I decided to ask her my question on Tumblr, and the answer probably fits your question too:

SatansBestBuddy posted:

Heyo, I'm kinda surprised you didn't bring up the question of why Captain America has any international appeal, or at least talk about the subject of nationality defining who somebody is.

Chez Tumblr posted:


I feel like that question could be an episode in and of itself!

But long and short I was trying to stick to the thesis of how/if he upheld the “American Ideal”, which regardless of international appeal, is very much influenced by the state of things here.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

This is outdated, but pretty illustrative, just ignore the Spider-Man stuff:



Okay.

Just, like, don't see all of them?

You don't need to see every movie right away, it can wait till it's on home video.

Or stop talking about them, you can step out of the conversation for a bit. That would include newsfeeds and forum posts too, which are incredibly easy to ignore. This is probably the reason most people get sick of these movies, because even though the ticket says it's 2 hours and a little bit, in reality you're spending hours, days even, talking with friends about it, watching the trailer on repeat before release, reading previews and watching reviews from a dozen different people, I think by around the point where your cross-referencing comics lore with the movie is the point where you're investing far, far too much into a single 2 hour movie. Repeat up to 9 times a year by 2017 and it's not surprising some people get burnout, to which I say, please watch other movies. Disconnect for a bit. Eat eggs instead of cereal for breakfast.

Considering just how saturated with entertainment we are today, I always find it slightly baffling when people say they're sick of something they enjoy, because the obvious answer, to me, is to do something else for a while. Entertainment is not going to go away. We can still watch movies from freaking 1935, the latest 2015 blockbuster is still gonna be there in 2016 when you feel like watching it.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

So can anyone recommend a critic who can say something about Marvel/superhero movies in terms of cinema?

achillesforever6 posted:

http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/the-avengers-between-the-lines-7189206
Interesting video on superheros by Kyle

E: I learned more about the MCU and superhero movies than any musing from CD on how "bad" the MCU is and how I should not like these bad movies which are killing the art that is cinema

Also, if you feel like reading a whole lot, Film Crit Hulk has some good stuff on superheroes. Here's his words on Iron Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 2

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

e X posted:

I suppose there isn't a version that isn't written with that dumb gimmick?

No. You get used to it. It's also kinda fun to read aloud.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Rebochan posted:

Did Netflix ever start putting up subs? I have to admit to never watching anime on there because I don't like dubs (except Cowboy Bebop, I'm not a MONSTER and Steve Blum is basically a god.)

You need to watch more dubs. Good dubs include Baccano!!, Full Metal Alchemist, Panty and Stocking, Ghost in the Shell, all the Ghibli dubs done by Disney, Space Dandy, I'm sure there's more though I mostly read manga and only really watch stuff I find interesting.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Arcsquad12 posted:

Do many anime series record dialogue before animating, like the roundtable audio sessions for american shows? I can only think of Akira and that one Ghibli film (where the lady goes to visit family in the country) where the lips match the voice. I wonder how much of an impact that would make on the quality of dub work.

Animation happens before dialogue pretty much 100% of the time, even in the movies that have the budget to actually animate mouths properly they'd still do all the animation first then have the VA's match as best they can, typically over many, many takes.

Here's some voice acting for one of the One Piece movies if you wanna see how they do it. You'll notice they're actually watching a mostly complete movie while doing their voices.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Jay O posted:

Different preoccupations, different processes. American television cartoons have a history of being more episodic and purely comedic in nature, often starring comedic actors, so the emphasis is on letting them freestyle a performance and animating to that. Japanese television cartoons have a more drama-based and serialized history, so the focus was more on mise-en-scene (anime has always relied much heavier on mise-en-scene due to its more limited budget compared to American animation,) and animator expression. Voice actors are still like minor celebrities in Japan (whereas in America they're far less than that,) but anime as a medium is more animator and director-focused in production. Just different strokes. Also, taking the "matching lip movement" preoccupation out of the equation really frees up the animation's reliance on a performer to work. I honestly prefer generic "flap" animation to generic "a e i o u" mouth-matching animation, if it doesn't add anything. (As in say, Family Guy or similar cartoons.) If the mouth-shape matching is really important, there should be character animation in the face overall, and if there's not, it just looks like excess effort with little reward to me.

That attitude is slowly changing, too, like the average TV watcher is more likely than not to know Seth MacFarlane is the guy who voices Peter, and while that's not true for all voice actors there has been a shift by dubbing companies like Funimation towards getting their names out there. Steve Blum, Yuri Lowenthal and Troy Baker are all names that at the very least, the average forum poster here would recognize.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Good Bad Flicks is now part of The Escapist. Given all the drama that's been kicked up by Escapist recently I hope this goes well for him.

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SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Jay O posted:

It is the same for manga! I've read some manga series all the way through, but it's probably less than 20 series total. Compared to the hundreds of anime and thousands of movies I've seen, it's absolutely pithy, and even when I see an anime I really like, rarely does it inspire me to read the manga. The issue in all cases is that while I really like sequential art in theory, I'm a huge sound and music and editing nerd, and I'm also a speed-reader. So I tend to blaze through comics a little too fast, to the extent where they don't have the chance to resonate with me as well, and I often feel like I'm just reading the storyboard for a movie, TV show, or cartoon, like I'm imagining how it would be adapted with those sound, music, and editing elements in my head, and ultimately I just end up watching movies, TV shows, and cartoons instead. So I think that's my darn problem.

That's so weird, cause that's the exact reason why I read manga more than I watch anime; the anime rarely, if ever, matches up to the image I have when reading the manga.

Like, One Piece, absolutely fantastic manga, but you watch the anime and it's so shiiiit, no effort put into it at all. Or take Negima, where they decided to adapt it no less than three times, and they kept loving it up, even the ones that really are just storyboarded from the manga just look and sound so bad comparatively. And don't get me started on how badly they hosed up the ending to Attack on Titan. :argh:

I'm really, really worried about how One Punch Man is gonna turn out, it's so good and the teasers we've seen are giving me hope but I don't wanna be hurt again. :ohdear:

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