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Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!
Pretty much the only way the Guardian (or indeed, most of the details of the world purification plan) makes sense is if you don't take the marketing spiel at face value. Its habit of carefully releasing only select bits of scientific information to people, knowingly supporting expansionist military powers, the fact that it was clearly designed to make it easy for future people to revere as something mystical. I've always felt that by the end of the story it's pretty clear that the people who made the forest only really regarded those who survived the Fire as tools at best, and a threat to their plans at worst.

Ernie Muppari fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Feb 9, 2015

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Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

Kassad posted:

It's also worth remembering that this comes right after the technology from the crypt made most of the Dorok lands (so what, a third/half of the known world?) uninhabitable and killed god knows how many people. And that's as the result of a war that started because the Torumekians were after what's in the crypt, as well. So the claim that their technology is ultimately a force for good rings hollow in the face of the atrocities that it engenders simply by existing. It really seems that people can't be trusted to have it and not gently caress everything up, and that the master of the crypt either can't predict events as well as it claims or that it just plain doesn't give a poo poo as long as the plan isn't seriously disturbed because the end justifies the means.

Or hell, that the crypt's whole deal is safeguarding the cloneslugs and ensuring that they (and maybe some reformed muties) wake up in the happy disney forest world that Hari Seldon intended, and that intentionally giving stupid doomsday weapons technology to the latest Great Humongous is a way of triggering daikaisho in a controlled manner, while simultaneously destroying any post-Fire civilization that's advanced enough to potentially wreck that plan.

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