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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Yep

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
yes

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
my dad used to be the arms officer in kaiapoi. a dude with the same name as my brother shot himself with a shotgun and now my dad has it and im aiming to inherit it. cool. also some 22s I think

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

My dad owns more than 100 guns (like actually, he's a collector but maintains them all in working order). Even he was weirdest out by how easy it was to buy guns on Trademe, until about 5 years ago it was almost completely unregulated.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
guns own except for when inappropraite death

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe
gun ownership is like katana ownership — it probably comes from somewhere hosed up and no one wants to hear you talking about it on the internet

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Exclamation Marx posted:

Oh, that's where I read it :downs:


Hasn't there been a spate of people cutting off their electronic monitoring bracelets after Story showed them how?

Do you have a link to this at all? Asking for a friend

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Lancelot posted:

gun ownership is like katana ownership — it probably comes from somewhere hosed up and no one wants to hear you talking about it on the internet

Guns are interesting and it sucks that they're also really useful as instruments of murder. If it weren't for that, they'd just be another eccentric hobby and I feel pretty sorry for people who treat it as such because, as usual, dumb fucks ruin it for everyone.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Two Finger posted:

Do you have a link to this at all? Asking for a friend

Never mind I found it. Jesus gently caress.
I have noticed an awful lot of reports of ankle bracelet stories in the paper recently now that you mention it

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Two Finger posted:

Never mind I found it. Jesus gently caress.
I have noticed an awful lot of reports of ankle bracelet stories in the paper recently now that you mention it

Yeah. No way of knowing whether Story inspired people to do it, or it was always happening but wasn't being reported I guess.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Exclamation Marx posted:

Yeah. No way of knowing whether Story inspired people to do it, or it was always happening but wasn't being reported I guess.

I'm not going to outright say they were responsible for all the ones recently, but having someone saying 'yeah, a cheap pair of scissors, or sidecutters will get through it easily' and then actually showing it being done is something else. At this point I'm thinking locking these two idiots away is gonna be a public service.

Next up on Story, it's time we took car manufacturers to task. Our expert shows us how with just a simple blade, any criminal could turn a normal car into an unstoppable deathtrap!

We also tackle household chemical manufacturers by showing how just mixing a few common cleaners can create lethal poisonous gas. Anyone could use this as a murder weapon!

Comrade Blyatlov fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Oct 22, 2015

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
"Next on Story: these chemicals are available over the counter, but if you mix them in the right way you can manufacture methanphetamine. We show you how!"

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

"Next on Story: these chemicals are available over the counter, but if you mix them in the right way you can manufacture methanphetamine. We show you how!"

THE PUBLIC HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
I'd be highly surprised if someone merely showing how to remove ankle bracelets actually caused more removals to happen. I mean, its not like you need specialised knowledge or equipment - even the dumbest fuckwit knows that scissors cut things, and scissors are not exactly scarce.

But I am of the opinion that these brackets should be built to be secure even if its common knowledge how to remove them. If they are not secure if the wearer knows how to remove them, then they are not secure full stop.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I've always been under the apparently naïve impression that they had some sort of anti-tamper circuit that would be triggered if you took them apart by force; this isn't difficult or expensive to implement so I'm sort of boggled that this hasn't come up with before.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

"You can cut off your ankle bracelet" isn't exactly a revelation, its common sense. People on home detention aren't security risks anyway, that's why they're allowed home detention. They also know that if they tamper with the bracelet they're going to prison, and police check these kind of things.

But again, this isn't an argument against making it harder to do. A simple circuit that runs through would prevent it, like literally the sort of thing a layman could rig up. It's a bit ridiculous that they don't have this kind of thing installed anyway, so I think the story is legit.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
Seriously? I too just presumed that they would have an anti-tamper circuit in it as well, in fact I thought perhaps it would even trigger if the resistance suddenly changed too much to prevent both cutting and bypassing....

Red_Museum
Apr 17, 2011

Shredded Hen
https://twitter.com/LIVENewsDesk/status/657411911739273216

quote:

Parliament's Speaker asks for 'please explain' after travel perks were erroneously given to former MP Garry Knapp for 28 years

Only three decades, not worth worrying about is it

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

klen dool posted:

Seriously? I too just presumed that they would have an anti-tamper circuit in it as well, in fact I thought perhaps it would even trigger if the resistance suddenly changed too much to prevent both cutting and bypassing....

I assume they have a simple anti-tamper circuit which triggers an alert if it is cut. It will be a resourcing issue where if you cut the circuit an alert is triggered which if it is noticed a corrections officer is asked to pop in and ask what the story is the next time they are passing by. Where as the public expects them to be taken down by armed police with dogs and a helicopter before they reach the end of the street.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Red_Museum posted:

https://twitter.com/LIVENewsDesk/status/657411911739273216


Only three decades, not worth worrying about is it

So what do Nat/Lab do here? Blame Social Credit?

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011

Butt Wizard posted:

So what do Nat/Lab do here? Blame Social Credit?

Blame whoever made the travel perk without requiring reporting on its use?

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Butt Wizard posted:

So what do Nat/Lab do here? Blame Social Credit?

Make it retroactively legal. Duh?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Make it retroactively legal. Duh?

'Pretty legal'

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Make it retroactively legal. Duh?

John Key posted:

Generally, retrospective legislation is not a good thing,

From the cached version of the perks piece on NZ herald. In case that stops working


Unless its screwing over beneficiaries or making up for their illegal activities obviously.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11533912

This great piece of journalism is unsigned, for some reason

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

An increasing amount of journalism appears to be the journalist trying to make up for being caught browsing Twitter.

Chalupa Joe
Mar 4, 2007

Can't think why. Does anyone else notice that women mentioned in headlines always seem to be described as <Sportsman>'s wife, like they're some kind of nameless marital chattel?

Chalupa Joe fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Oct 23, 2015

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Chalupa Joe posted:

Can't think why. Does anyone else notice that women mentioned in headlines always seem to be described as <Sportsman>'s wife, like they're some kind of nameless marital chattel?

WAGs in general is a very sexist term. The headline thing goes way beyond sport, even women who are experts/performers at the top of their field are often referred to as like "mother of three" or "[husband's profession]'s wife" or some bs.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
Detectives investigating the Dirty Politics hacker Rawshark sought the banking, telephone and travel records of author and journalist Nicky Hager without any search order or other legal power.

Court records show Westpac - the government's banker for 26 years - handed over "almost 10 months of transactions from Mr Hager's three accounts" at the request of detectives investigating the hacking of Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater's email and social media accounts.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11534242

jfc

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Exclamation Marx posted:

Detectives investigating the Dirty Politics hacker Rawshark sought the banking, telephone and travel records of author and journalist Nicky Hager without any search order or other legal power.

Court records show Westpac - the government's banker for 26 years - handed over "almost 10 months of transactions from Mr Hager's three accounts" at the request of detectives investigating the hacking of Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater's email and social media accounts.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11534242

jfc

Nah it was actually legal because of this law we just passed making it legal when we did it back then.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Nah it was actually legal because of this law we just passed making it legal when we did it back then.

the fact that we had this law in the pipeline well in advance and put it through under urgency just now is total coincidence guys

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Nah it was actually legal because we're just asking questions that happen to be framed in a threateningly legalistic manner

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


I'm blazed as gently caress.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
They added City Chat Channels into Dota 2 and the only thing they get used for in Hamilton is people going "ANY1 SELLIN WEED IN FRANKTON?"

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Inebriation is the only rational response to being in Hamilton.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Hamilton is insanely good compared to the insufferable bullshit of Auckland.

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:

fong posted:

"You can cut off your ankle bracelet" isn't exactly a revelation, its common sense. People on home detention aren't security risks anyway, that's why they're allowed home detention. They also know that if they tamper with the bracelet they're going to prison, and police check these kind of things.

But again, this isn't an argument against making it harder to do. A simple circuit that runs through would prevent it, like literally the sort of thing a layman could rig up. It's a bit ridiculous that they don't have this kind of thing installed anyway, so I think the story is legit.

Ankle bracelets have tamper circuitry in them.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

They added City Chat Channels into Dota 2 and the only thing they get used for in Hamilton is people going "ANY1 SELLIN WEED IN FRANKTON?"

This is the ~DEEP WEB~ that old people are worried about

Anticheese posted:

Ankle bracelets have tamper circuitry in them.

Thank god, I thought it didn't make sense not to. I haven't seen the news item on it, but if so then wtf was it even about?

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Double post but we've done it, we've reached peak Key:

quote:

PM grabs beer with the ABs

All Blacks and John Key share victory beers after RWC semifinal

Prime Minister John Key got his chance to share the spoils with the rugby victors: a bottle of beer in the All Blacks changing rooms.

Key and his wife Bronagh could be seen in the stands during the game's footage where they cheered the All Blacks on.

It seems the prime minister could not resist the opportunity to hang with the team afterward.

He was snapped shaking hands with players and talking with coach Steve Hansen.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/73363625/All-Blacks-and-John-Key-share-victory-beers-after-RWC-semifinal?cid=app-android

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
Whitelock looks so huge lmao


I was about to post this one

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