|
Lurdiak posted:I don't think you can just call every movie that isn't dumb action "oscar bait". Theory of Everything, that's Oscar Bait. Birdman is not. Birdman is actually creative and interesting. Yeah, the prime example of Oscar Bait is Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, which did terrible in the box office (well, it covered its budget) and critically but still got a Best Picture nomination.
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 02:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 6, 2024 04:24 |
|
|
while adapting the biography of alan turing into the imitation game the studio probably constantly asked "can we oscar this up a bit?" because holy poo poo it's like someone plugged that thing into an oscar-o-baiter 5000 machine and got that turgid miserable thing out of it I don't like that movie
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 03:14
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 04:01
|
|
|
I don't get it
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 04:09
|
|
|
It's some form of heathen Japanimation from the orient.
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 04:32
|
|
|
morestuff posted:I don't get it Apparently JGL looks like an anime character.
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 04:41
|
|
|
Lurdiak posted:I don't think you can just call every movie that isn't dumb action "oscar bait". Theory of Everything, that's Oscar Bait. Birdman is not. Birdman is actually creative and interesting. It can be argued that being a movie about a middle-aged artist in a creativity/identity crisis with everything more or less stated in plain text, it is pandering to the tastes of fellow filmmakers and people in the industry. Still, it is refreshing to see the movie being praised mostly for its remarkable direction, while completely bland, unambitious movies get sidelined. Oscar would have been a much better institution if it was a competition between filmmakers one-upping each other with cinematic gimmicks, rather than an annual celebration of digging through the Black List in search of new biopic subjects.
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 08:29
|
|
|
fatherboxx posted:It can be argued that being a movie about a middle-aged artist in a creativity/identity crisis with everything more or less stated in plain text, it is pandering to the tastes of fellow filmmakers and people in the industry. I guess a good criterion would be that Oscars should be given to movies that are good, in that they are good and not bad, and then Oscars would be good. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 12:19
|
|
|
I watched Jupiter Ascending before Ive seen Theory of Everything and loving Eddie Redmayne was the worst thing about the entire movie. How he goes from a shrieking manchild to winning a oscar is beyond me.
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 16:01
|
|
|
Allyn posted:It's almost as if the demographics should be well-rounded instead of heavily weighted in either direction hmmmmm "We must find the fabled goon to complete our cabal"
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 17:57
|
|
|
Vintersorg posted:I watched Jupiter Ascending before Ive seen Theory of Everything and loving Eddie Redmayne was the worst thing about the entire movie. How he goes from a shrieking manchild to winning a oscar is beyond me. Are you kidding me? That's like a requirement for winning an Oscar. Just look at Cuba Gooding Junior and Halley Barry. If winning an Oscar gains you better exposure and roles, how did they wind up doing Catwoman and Stealth?
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 20:03
|
|
|
Usually they wait a year or two before doing their poo poo role though
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 20:07
|
|
|
Steve Yun posted:Usually they wait a year or two before doing their poo poo role though It worked for Jennifer Lawrence I guess (I thoroughly enjoy The Hunger Games though).
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 20:16
|
|
|
The internet seems to have fallen out of love with Jennifer since they saw her ta-tas. I guess it's true internets only want one thing from a girl.
|
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 20:24
|
|
|
Vintersorg posted:I watched Jupiter Ascending before Ive seen Theory of Everything and loving Eddie Redmayne was the best drat thing ever and absolutely deserved his Oscar. Bit of a SNAFU in your post, but I fixed it right up, no need to thank me. Seriously, though, I thought Best Actor was well-chosen. Keaton gave a really great performance in Birdman, but whatever else you might say about Theory of Everything, Redmayne pulled off the kind of total physical transformation that gives acting professors wet dreams. Hell, the same could be said about his role in Jupiter Ascending; the ability to disappear into roles completetly unlike your real self is something to be celebrated.
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 21:29
|
|
|
Lurdiak posted:The internet seems to have fallen out of love with Jennifer since they saw her ta-tas. I guess it's true internets only want one thing from a girl. I like to think it's that she shut people's mouths for calling her chubby, and then castigating them over whacking off to nudes she sent her boyfriend.
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 22:04
|
|
|
I get it. I also don't know if I should be proud or ashamed. Probably ashamed, but that poo poo was cool as hell. Timett posted:I like to look at RT top movies for a year and curate a list from what that says are the best movies. At a glance here's what I came up with for 2014. I like that list. I'm probably biased because I'm mad at Lego Movie getting snubbed. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Feb 25, 2015 |
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 22:29
|
|
|
FrostedButts posted:Are you kidding me? That's like a requirement for winning an Oscar. Jamie Foxx did Stealth. Same deal, but he still has a career.
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 22:37
|
|
|
Vintersorg posted:How he goes from a shrieking manchild to winning a oscar is beyond me.
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2015 22:55
|
|
|
He was fuckin' robbed
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 04:59
|
|
|
OneThousandMonkeys posted:"More money = better than" is even leaking its way into the New York Times. If the Oscars want to be cultural relevant to the public at large rather than to just the Acadmey, it has to nominate and award films that more people have seen. Now, you could argue that maintaining their artistic integrity is more important than cultural relevancy, but it seems clear that the Academy wants to be relevant.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 06:03
|
|
|
It's not like Birdman was an inaccessible flop.
|
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 06:07
|
|
|
I think that it would be nice if movies were actually released in more than like 4 theaters in New York and LA before the nominations are announced. Like how am I supposed to give a poo poo that a movie is nominated if I can't even see it until February?
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 06:10
|
|
|
The whole industry probably benefits when they award films that less people have seen and that have received less publicity. Things like American Sniper and The LEGO Movie have made a ton of cash already and will sell like hotcakes on DVD/blu-ray too.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 06:42
|
|
|
Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:I think that it would be nice if movies were actually released in more than like 4 theaters in New York and LA before the nominations are announced. Like how am I supposed to give a poo poo that a movie is nominated if I can't even see it until February? That's intentional, it's so you can go to the theater and see "Nominated for Best Picture Selma" etc.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 14:08
|
|
|
computer parts posted:That's intentional, it's so you can go to the theater and see "Nominated for Best Picture Selma" etc. Yeah I know it's intentional but I feel like that's part of the disconnect between the Oscars and the common folk. I don't like to be told that Julianne Moore is a shoe-in for best actress before anyone who doesn't get screeners in the mail has seen it. I find it profoundly annoying and it comes across somewhat elitist.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 14:21
|
|
|
I've just stumpled upon a banner advertising "American Sniper, an Academy Award winning film". That didn't take long.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 14:54
|
|
|
Pizdec posted:I've just stumpled upon a banner advertising "American Sniper, an Academy Award winning film". That didn't take long. poo poo, when I watched the ceremony they had a "starring Academy Award winner Patricia Arquette" commercial for some CSI spinoff ready for the break right after her speech.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 14:56
|
|
|
LesterGroans posted:poo poo, when I watched the ceremony they had a "starring Academy Award winner Patricia Arquette" commercial for some CSI spinoff ready for the break right after her speech. That's pretty easy to explain, they had two versions of the ad (one saying winner, one saying nominee) ready to go and put their ad tech who was the best at not hitting the wrong button on the control panel for that ad break. We had that kind of stuff going at the CBS radio station I interned at, it's not that strange.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 15:25
|
|
|
Zogo posted:The whole industry probably benefits when they award films that less people have seen and that have received less publicity. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 15:26
|
|
|
Pizdec posted:Also, this was kinda what I was hoping for when I heard that Ida got an Oscar, but it turned out it had already made 2.5 mil in USA alone (pocket change by Hollywood standards, but not bad for such a niche movie), it's only in Poland that it flopped completely. Ida is currently on Amazon Prime and Netflix so there's no reason anybody shouldn't go watch it right now if you haven't already.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 16:02
|
|
|
Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Yeah I know it's intentional but I feel like that's part of the disconnect between the Oscars and the common folk. I don't like to be told that Julianne Moore is a shoe-in for best actress before anyone who doesn't get screeners in the mail has seen it. I find it profoundly annoying and it comes across somewhat elitist. I remember many years back, when the script for "A Mighty Heart" was high sought after since it was a lock for best actress before it got made. It wasn't, obviously, but it said something very strange about the process.
|
|
#
?
Feb 26, 2015 21:25
|
|
|
Lurdiak posted:The internet seems to have fallen out of love with Jennifer since they saw her ta-tas. I guess it's true internets only want one thing from a girl. If there really is some sort of falling-out (which I'm not convinced of), I think it has more to do with her latest moving drifting out of the social consciousness, which results in hernot being in the social consciousness as much. Indulging my really cynical side for a moment, half her the attention she gets from the Wacky poo poo she says. If she's not doing as many interviews, there's less Wacky poo poo to listen to, turn into hilarious gifs, etc.
|
|
#
?
Feb 27, 2015 00:26
|
|
|
FrostedButts posted:Ida is currently on Amazon Prime and Netflix so there's no reason anybody shouldn't go watch it right now if you haven't already. is it good though. actually, are there any foreign movies better than a separation
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2015 00:21
|
|
|
I enjoyed Leviathan more than Ida, but Ida is still worth a watch imo.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2015 05:38
|
|
|
Grizzled Patriarch posted:I enjoyed Leviathan more than Ida, but Ida is still worth a watch imo. Agreed. I honestly would have been happy if either Leviathan, Force Majeure or Ida won for Best Foreign. All of those are some of the absolute best of 2014.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2015 05:42
|
|
|
As much as Birdman deserved it's win, if Ida had stolen Best Cinematography it would have been 100% deserved.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2015 06:18
|
|
|
I just watched Birdman and... i'm not sure I would have rooted for it for best picture. I mean, sure, it's a great movie with a lot of technical brilliance, especially from Innaritu, Keaton, Norton, and Stone, but somehow it feels a little too indulgent. It felt like Innaritu knew exactly the effect his meta-commentary would have on the industry and he pushed that aspect as far as it would go, and the product of that was an obtuse presentation didn't sit all that well with me or my family. A bunch of you were complaining about how Immitation Game felt like Oscar-bait (haven't watched so I can't comment on that), but to me Birdman feels like what I would think of as Oscar-bait. *Cue outrage.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2015 17:40
|
|
|
I mean you could definitely call it Oscar bait in that it's about Hollywood and actors but it's a much weirder/less conventional film than most of the ones that typically get that label.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2015 17:46
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 6, 2024 04:24 |
|
|
Yeah, good or bad there's nothing formulaic about Birdman. It doesn't really feel like a calculated move that Innaritu would want to say something about ART.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2015 17:53
|
|