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I like the people here, the country not so much.
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Actually, does it count as national pride if you poo poo on everywhere else slightly more than you poo poo on your own place?
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Jan 20, 2015 05:43
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Panzeh posted:Who else could get Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin to sit down for a picture together? I found a wonderful V-Day newspaper in the loft the other day with mugshots of all the allied leaders and generals next to each other on the "good side". It was pretty funny having stalin grinning next to patton.
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Jan 20, 2015 06:06
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Possibly they might be blamed for killing shitloads of people. That seems like a thing you can blame people for.
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Jan 20, 2015 14:22
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I must have forgotten about that whole war against the nazis that ran from 1945 to 1989.
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Jan 20, 2015 14:28
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davidb posted:You lose. America = almost world peace I'm not sure you can call the bloodiest pair of wars the world has ever seen, combined with a decades long standoff between two world superpowers that only accidentally managed to end in something other than nuclear annihilation of the entire planet, "almost world peace". About the best you can say is that for the past few decades, we haven't had anything on the scale of the world wars, the most destructive conflicts in human history. Which, if you want to play Neville Chamberlain, I guess makes "almost world peace" appropriate.
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Jan 20, 2015 22:01
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davidb posted:The best i can say is much more specific than past few decades. More like 60 years and counting of relative global quiet. Possibly the Cold War had something to do with both the USA and the USSR not being entirely sure who would win in a fight? Again I'm not sure you can accurately phrase "we would totally kill them all but I don't think we could do it without getting killed ourselves" a period of "healthy" peace. I mean, prior to world war 1, we had about a century of peace in Europe, quite without America having anything to do with it. Mostly due to diplomatic efforts by all the large nations of the time. And we didn't even go invading into parts of the world that "don't matter" and destabilize them massively, resulting in huge regional conflicts visible nowadays in the middle east! How about that? OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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Jan 20, 2015 22:14
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Mmm so your idea of a good and constructive peace is an arms race capable of wiping out the majority of human civilisation that manages to end non-destructively only due to the remarkably gentle implosion of one side. And this makes America "good". I hate to think what you would call "bad" America in that case. It may literally not have been possible for the cold war superpowers to more actively attempt the self serving destruction of humanity in the name of imperialist aggression.
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Jan 20, 2015 22:20
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So all the fighting in the middle east and Africa doesn't count, I guess? Because I mean, if you want to throw out large chunks of the world for being too foreign, I can do that too.
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Jan 20, 2015 22:28
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I hate to break it to you but Germany had a democracy before the US showed up. Edit: And if we're going to get technical, the state of Japan prior to the end of world war 2 was probably your guys fault too. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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Jan 21, 2015 15:01
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If nobody contests your colouring in of the map then one might perhaps argue that that is all of the enforcement you need?
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Jan 25, 2015 16:28
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