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More reapers, less psycho please. Thats the direction i wanted them to go since oh, 3 cds ago.
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I'll reserve a final judgement on Reapers until I've heard the studio version, but at least it doesn't seem to be as loving boring as Psycho.
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Fat Turkey posted:I agree (to a point) with the lyrics issue, and I think it does tie into the same military/facist rebellion stance they are pushing [...] But Muse wheel around on tours telling us about THEM AGAINST US and FIGHT and DRONES as rich people who don't actively go any further to make a difference. OK, so maybe they don't actually mean it and it's all tongue in cheek. I could live with that, if the music made up for the disingenuous lyrics. It's not that it's hypocritical, it's that it's dumb. Nothing of Muse could remotely be called protest music or even political. It wears the aesthetic of protest music like a kid playing dress-up. The enemy in Muse's music is invariably "they": they will not oppose us, they will not control us, will they find our hiding place? Who the gently caress are you talking about? In Nineteen Eighty-Four (which The Resistance directly references in its mention of thought police) the state is constantly at war, but the enemy is never defined and might not even exist at all. The citizens are kept in a constant state of anger and hate and confusion, so they can be controlled. Muse's music uses exactly the same trick to create exciting rock music, but I don't think they realise the irony of this, and how crass it makes their music. Of course, stadium concerts were always fascist rallies. Roger Waters of Pink Floyd realised this and wrote an entire album about it. In "In the Flesh", Nazi-like banners fall from the ceiling and the singer in the band, a sort of psuedo-Roger, marches out and machine-guns the audience: quote:Are there any queers in the theater tonight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfqCKUfW0K0 It's still cheesy as gently caress, but at least it knows what the gently caress it's doing, at least it has a point - and in 1979, it was a major risk, a challenging and sort of frightening album. quote:with a middle 8 which used to contain good solos, but now is just the main riff repeated like he's forgotten the words to a secret verse. Correctamundo! Nothing exemplifies the drop in Muse's songwriting better than the tragic death of the great Muse bridge. That's when they used to drop some new element that built on what we'd already come to and make perfect sense of it. EXAMPLE poo poo MUSE BRIDGES: Supermassive Black Hole - verse again, with vague synth thing on top Knights of Cydonia (OK, this one's an outro): riff again, with vague synth thing on top (compare that to the clever ascending solo he played in the Abbey Road performance) Undisclosed Desires: verse again, vague synth and "ooh" on top Survival - play a riff, then as it ramps up, play the riff again but a bit higher on the fretboard Psycho - play a riff
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Popcorn posted:Of course, stadium concerts were always fascist rallies. Roger Waters of Pink Floyd realised this and wrote an entire album about it. In "In the Flesh", Nazi-like banners fall from the ceiling and the singer in the band, a sort of psuedo-Roger, marches out and machine-guns the audience: oh it still had its' moments in 2010-2013. During Run Like Hell for instance, I was enjoying the hell out of myself, then had to stop and say "wait, *should* I be enjoying this?". Right about 5:32 here, that happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32hhxWbRm1M Relevant since Muse was trying to do their own copy of The Wall 2010-2013's staging during the 2nd Law tour 
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Mar 16, 2015 22:32
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Popcorn posted:Nothing exemplifies the drop in Muse's songwriting better than the tragic death of the great Muse bridge. I've found that to be the surest sign of a band losing its touch, generally. The bridges are almost always the first thing to suffer. I suppose that's because the best use for a bridge is to temporarily deviate from what the rest of the song is doing, and sticking to an easy songwriting formula is diametrically opposed to that.
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Mar 17, 2015 12:09
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Popcorn posted:Survival - play a riff, then as it ramps up, play the riff again but a bit higher on the fretboard I actually really like Survival and the bridge solo bit. Its also their nadir as far as lyrics go though. The Olympics performance was fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Jfk8j63a0 It sounds like it wants to be a Queen song except the difference between campiness and a full on joke is that camp has to be sincere on some level. However silly whatever Freddie Mercury was singing he sounded like he meant it, wheas a lyric like "vengeance is mine" has to be taking the piss. The whole of 2nd law sounds like they were having a lot of fun in the studio but that was because they'd given up on sincerity totally. massive spider fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Mar 17, 2015 |
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Mar 17, 2015 16:46
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Also the arpeggio has been missing. They've done so many good ones and when done right it gives them their sound.
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Mar 17, 2015 17:45
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Paperback Writer posted:Also the arpeggio has been missing. They've done so many good ones and when done right it gives them their sound. I didn't realize this was what I was missing, but this is it!
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Paperback Writer posted:Also the arpeggio has been missing. They've done so many good ones and when done right it gives them their sound. The first 15 seconds of Bliss.  Also, I hate everything about 'Psycho'. The guitar bends accompanied by "Fuckin Psycho' just completely rub me the wrong way.
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Mar 18, 2015 04:53
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All I can think listening to Psycho's riff is Load era Metallica.
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Mar 19, 2015 09:33
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every single song on Load is better than Psycho though.
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Mar 19, 2015 12:20
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Psycho is really bad. The guitar squeals, the yelling in the background. Everytime they release a new album you have to wonder how many tin foil hats they are wearing.
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Mar 19, 2015 15:41
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Soft Shell Crab posted:All I can think listening to Psycho's riff is Load era Metallica. It seems like it was written around that time.
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Mar 19, 2015 17:09
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Seeing them tonight 
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Mar 19, 2015 18:16
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massive spider posted:I actually really like Survival and the bridge solo bit. Its also their nadir as far as lyrics go though. The Olympics performance was fun: At 1:15 in that performance, the guitar riff enters. And that's fine, that's one idea. It loops around a few times. Sure, OK. Idea established, we get the picture, let's move on. Then around 1:41 it quickly ascends up the scale - suggesting the beginning of a new idea. Except the next idea is just to repeat almost the same riff but further up the fretboard. That's it.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:30
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gently caress all you negative bastards the new songs both own. Such a good gig, even got a Futurism runout
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Mar 19, 2015 23:57
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That was a goddamn amazing setlist. Wish I could have gone  They did Assassins -> Grand Omega Bosses outro -> Stockholm Syndrome -> Micro Cuts outro, all with barely a pause for breath.
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Mar 20, 2015 04:11
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I was just at the back of the pit for most of the gig and it got pretty busy for that combo 
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Mar 20, 2015 08:59
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Argh, Manchester got Dead Star, The Groove and Fury all in one show tonight!! We must all hope that the post-album tour has setlists this amazing. 
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Mar 22, 2015 22:46
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Not fair. I'm sure America will get Guiding Light , Save Me, and Undisclosed Desires instead.
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Mar 23, 2015 06:56
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Monday is Dead Inside premiere day!  Apparently the first play will be on Radio 1 in the UK at 7pm. Chris Wolstenholme will be on air to introduce it. edit: If you're in Australia like me, listen to JJJ breakfast show from 6am. They'll have the new song and an interview with Matt! Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 07:14
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Sorry if it goes without saying, but presumably that's when the programme starts. It won't be played till like 8 15 I expect. I'll check YouTube at 9.
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Mar 23, 2015 17:51
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I dunno, I reckon every radio station will be making GBS threads themselves to be the first to play it once the embargo lifts. Add to that the fact that stations like Triple J in Aus and BBC Radio 1 are non commercial. It means that they don't play ads, which means they have no reason to draw out song reveals in order to keep listeners hanging on longer. Anyway, it's now 4:45am and I woke up in anticipation and can't go back to sleep. Bring on Dead Inside
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Mar 23, 2015 18:46
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Dead Inside is currently playing on BBC Radio 1 but here's the official lyrics video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTcJWhmdzpg E: I think I should mention it's NSFW for naked lady Admoon fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 20:25
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It's...special, not immediately awesome like a good opener needs to be, pales in comparison to stuff like Supremacy, New Born and Uprising.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:29
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Eh, it's fine. Reminds me a lot of undisclosed desires
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Mar 23, 2015 20:38
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I hated it at first, but the last 2 minutes or so works really well somehow.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:40
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Undisclosed Desires had a baby with Panic Station!
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Mar 23, 2015 20:41
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Matt Bellamy posted:“This is where the story of the album begins, where the protagonist loses hope and becomes ‘Dead Inside’, therefore vulnerable to the dark forces introduced in ‘Psycho’ and which ensue over the next few songs on the album, before eventually defecting, revolting and overcoming these dark forces later in the story.”
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Mar 23, 2015 20:43
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Hedrigall posted:Undisclosed Desires had a baby with Panic Station! I pretty much feel the same way about this song as I do Undisclosed Desires. It's alright... but nothing amazing. I do really like the "You're DEAD INSIDE" bit.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:44
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Also apparently "The globalist" is a "10 minute prog epic" citizen erased part 2 so now its going to either be completely amazing and what everyone wanted on the last 3 albums or utterly, utterly disappointing
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Mar 23, 2015 20:44
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Some really good parts, some bad parts. When it started I was like  is this Phil Collins?I like how Matt sings this one
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G-Hawk posted:I hated it at first, but the last 2 minutes or so works really well somehow. I didn't HATE the first two minutes but I get where you're coming from. I was ready to dismiss this as another boring chorus-less dirge, but I think they manage to turn it around in the second half. I already like it more than Psycho, let's see if it manages to creep into "good" territory.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:51
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Relatively speaking it's a lot better than Psycho, but it kinda doesn't know what it wants to be. The lyrics still scream breakup.
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Mar 23, 2015 20:56
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It's so much better from the bridge onward. It's the first part of the new album we've heard (Psycho, Reapers) that I actually liked. edit: really looking forward to the instrumental version of this album the truth fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 23:01
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That's the best new Depeche Mode song in years. I also ruined Reapers for the wife today by pointing out how easily Madonna's "Express Yourself" could be sung to the chorus
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Mar 23, 2015 23:15
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Now THIS, I like. But I'm only cautiously optimistic, since everything else I've heard about the album suggests that this is just the token electropop song. I honestly wish they'd go completely in this direction, since there's little chance the "classic Muse" will ever come back. Not that it necessarily needs to at this point.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:33
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Both the song and video are a Bond theme. One of the 80s ones with Timothy Dalton. Dance into the fire!
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Mar 23, 2015 23:43
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I just want them to bring Citizen Erased back into the live setlist, and hopefully they get hit in the head with rocks and develop amnesia that is specific for Assassin. gently caress that song.
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the truth posted:gently caress that song. You're crazy, Assassin is great, especially the Grand Omega Bosses edit. Considering The Globalist is a "10 minute prog nightmare" "sequel to Citizen Erased", chances are good we'll get CE itself on the upcoming tour too.
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