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Eb posted:Yeah basically people realize they can't call it a bad movie just because they don't agree with its politics Yeah you can.
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I thought the recent Testament of Youth was a great antiwar film. Problem with making an antiwar film is that war and battle is cinematically thrilling, which undermines the message a bit. Testament stays firmly behind the lines, watching mangled men getting shipped to a field hospital.
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Cole posted:That's fine and dandy. A movie can be about politics. But if you watch it and you're so influenced by it that you can't discern the difference between Hollywood and real life, the problem is not with the movie. People seem to be defending ignorance. Watching a movie, any movie, that doesn't fall under a documentary title (and even then), even those that are "based on" real events and getting your political ideologies from it is lazy ignorance. Can it influence you do to more research about it? Yeah, but don't ask me to accept people being lazy about it. I despise American Sniper because it's (to all intents and purposes) objectively ethically repugnant. In uncritically presenting the military as tortured heroes it contributes to a mindset that actively makes the world an awful place to live in and encourages death. I'm not saying it's the sole reason for atrocities, but this film (and others like it) will play a contributing part in future horrors.
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Smoothrich posted:Besides those twitter trolls about Muslims sound like some of the commentary about soldiers, Chris Kyle, and conservatives from the leftist critics No they don't.
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Feb 23, 2015 10:49
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Cole posted:Again, the movie shows him joining up because of 9/11. It is not his fault the people in charge sent him somewhere that had nothing to do with 9/11. He joins up in the movie because of an Embassy bombing, 9/11 comes later in the narrative.
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Ooh sorry, wasn't a criticism. This thread is much more interesting than every other thread in CineD. You just don't get people justifying child murder in the comic book threads! Carry on!
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Cole posted:Yes, because it is that black and white. No, I get it. Sometimes you gotta blow a kid away right? Pop pop.
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Mar 3, 2015 23:12
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Cole posted:If they are running at a group of people with a bomb intent on blowing up that group of people? Yeah, sometimes it is justified. But at least you get it. Sometimes tough men have to make the calls that noone else can. They don't enjoy it, but this is the way of the soldier, right? And if it ends with a smouldering ruin of a country and millions dead. Well... That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Tough calls. Real men. HUUH!
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Mar 3, 2015 23:18
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Cole posted:The military was at war in the name of freedoms and security and yada yada. By your standards what would constitute a member of the public genuinely caring about 9/11?
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Mar 5, 2015 23:28
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Cole posted:But you don't care about any of that, nor will you try to change anything, unless it is convenient. Nobody does. 
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Mar 6, 2015 01:34
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Cole posted:no one says fragged anymore What's the current phrase?
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Mar 8, 2015 18:02
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TomViolence posted:As a Brit, I've heard practically nothing of this movie beyond this thread. Any european goons in this discussion have info on how the movie was received in their country? I took one look at the promotion and marketing for the film and saw it as tonally similar to Act of Valor(sic) and other rah-rah jingo kill-the-hajis-for-our-freedoms movies a frightening right wing gun nut acquaintance of mine keeps linking me trailers of on youtube. Most of the posters I saw in up London ended up defaced pretty quickly: 
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Panzeh posted:The movie and book are nothing alike. They are pretty alike.
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Armyman25 posted:If a university was going to show Birth of a Nation, would it be right or wrong for them to pull the film because of the protests that the film is racist? It'd be more complicated than simply right or wrong.
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