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Eye of Widesauron posted:Why do people keep talking about the souls games in a metroidvania thread It's the thread for Good Game Genres now
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Souls-Like
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Jan 24, 2015 01:43
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Bobnumerotres posted:Souls-Like I feel like that has a totally different implication
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Jan 24, 2015 01:57
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rediscover posted:lmao if there are really people who think dark souls is a metroidvania. from my understanding, a metroidvania is a game about exploring and killing where you start out with very little freedom of movement and lovely weapons and there are lots of areas you cant access, but by the end of the game you're flipping around and grappling and sliding and poo poo all over the place and it feels loving awesome same There has to be items and powers you collect though gettingstronger as you progress otherwise it's just a platformer.
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Jan 24, 2015 02:00
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finding a new powerup that is a gamechanger is the best feeling speed booster, morph ball, spacejump
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Jan 24, 2015 02:04
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Everyday before I sleep I pray that there will be a new Wario Land game. Hopefully for the Wii U.
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Jan 24, 2015 02:13
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I want to play Shadow Complex again but I don't want to hook up my 360. Please advise.
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Jan 24, 2015 04:32
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Givin posted:I want to play Shadow Complex again but I don't want to hook up my 360. Please advise. i want a 360 emulator just so i can play shadow complex
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Jan 24, 2015 04:44
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Bobnumerotres posted:i want a 360 emulator just so i can play shadow complex 360s are pretty cheap now tbh. You can probably find a good deal on like Ebay for one.
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Jan 24, 2015 04:46
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They should just make a PC version of Shadow Complex.
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Jan 24, 2015 04:48
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Wootman posted:360s are pretty cheap now tbh. You can probably find a good deal on like Ebay for one. maybe when they're like 20 dollars i'll pick one up to play through shadow complex and halo 4
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Jan 24, 2015 04:49
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Heart Forth, Alicia looks super rad.
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Jan 24, 2015 05:27
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FactsAreUseless posted:Princess Daisy: Help! Horrible
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Jan 24, 2015 05:35
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Unguided posted:Horrible You stand on the city of disaster, the Beast City. The only way to survive is... DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED.
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Jan 24, 2015 06:18
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Doctor Goat posted:finding a new powerup that is a gamechanger is the best feeling yeah. I hate it when like 50% of your progression come from finding glorified keycards instead of new abilities.
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Jan 24, 2015 06:35
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Dexters Secret posted:You stand on the city of disaster, the Beast City. Character : taciturn
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Jan 24, 2015 06:40
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3600032&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post423978975
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Jan 24, 2015 09:09
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I like Knytt stories and within a deep forest
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Jan 24, 2015 11:09
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I also played and maybe beat an untitled story, but I can't recommend it
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Jan 24, 2015 11:34
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Unguided posted:Horrible
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Jan 24, 2015 14:06
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the only good metroidvania games are the actual castlevanias imho
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Jan 24, 2015 14:17
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rediscover posted:from my understanding, a metroidvania is a game about exploring and killing where you start out with very little freedom of movement and lovely weapons and there are lots of areas you cant access, but by the end of the game you're flipping around and grappling and sliding and poo poo all over the place and it feels loving awesome I don't know how far you got in Dark Souls, but that's a somewhat accurate description of it...
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Jan 24, 2015 15:30
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rediscover posted:lmao if there are really people who think dark souls is a metroidvania. from my understanding, a metroidvania is a game about exploring and killing where you start out with very little freedom of movement and lovely weapons and there are lots of areas you cant access, but by the end of the game you're flipping around and grappling and sliding and poo poo all over the place and it feels loving awesome like Prototype
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Jan 24, 2015 15:53
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buzzsaw.gif posted:I don't know how far you got in Dark Souls, but that's a somewhat accurate description of it... As much as it's a description of every video game with anything remotely resembling character progression. I mean, if that's your criteria for a metroidvania then whatever. But that's a pointless definition because everything falls under it.
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Jan 24, 2015 16:27
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Silver Striker posted:As much as it's a description of every video game with anything remotely resembling character progression. I mean, if that's your criteria for a metroidvania then whatever. But that's a pointless definition because everything falls under it.
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Jan 24, 2015 16:29
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You start out in Dark Souls with poor mobility and equipment, and by the end, you have poor mobility and equipment with slightly higher numbers. True progress.
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Jan 24, 2015 16:43
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buzzsaw.gif posted:I don't know how far you got in Dark Souls, but that's a somewhat accurate description of it... the only truly accurate part is areas that get unlocked. people lump it into metroidvania because it's the closest way to describe the interconnected map (because most games give either a corridor or a full open world nowadays) but its really not that, and if it is one it's a really poo poo one because all of the area unlocks are done with literal gateways rather than giving you a noticeably gamechanging thing like metroid or whatever does
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Jan 24, 2015 17:04
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Yeah, the only Metroidvania part of Dark Souls is arguably the level design. Then again, what parts of a game define it as a Metroidvania? The level design seems like an awfully large contributor.
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Jan 24, 2015 17:50
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The defining part is that Metroidvanias are designed around Oddly Shaped Keys that all either function as weapons or mobility improvements or both.
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Jan 24, 2015 18:13
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Great Joe posted:The defining part is that Metroidvanias are designed around Oddly Shaped Keys that all either function as weapons or mobility improvements or both.
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Jan 24, 2015 18:22
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Here's my shot: Metroidvanias are games that, giving the player the most powerful state he/she can expect to reach in a normal walkthru, the standard key milestone order (bosses, abilities, etc) don't respect the same order as the physical distance of player traversal from the starting point of the game. In other words, assuming that the player has all keys, abilities and anything else that the game can be reasonably expected to give to the player to augment his power, some challenges or key points that happen later in the game will take less time to reach from the starting point of the game. How these areas are gated doesn't really impact anything under this definition, but the Metroid approach of giving new skills to act as gates is pretty popular. By "time to reach", go with traversal distances - warps don't count since they cheat for traversal length. Shifty gimbal fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Jan 24, 2015 18:40
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so... if ISIS captured you & forced you to pick between Metroid or Castlevania.. which would you choose?
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Jan 24, 2015 18:41
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:so... if ISIS captured you & forced you to pick between Metroid or Castlevania.. which would you choose? Metroid.
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Jan 24, 2015 18:43
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castlevania here
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Jan 24, 2015 18:45
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The best Metroids are better than the best Castlevania, but there are way more Castlevanias with better quality consistency. Gonna go with Castlevania, ISIS.
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Jan 24, 2015 18:45
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:so... if ISIS captured you & forced you to pick between Metroid or Castlevania.. which would you choose? Metroid.
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Jan 24, 2015 18:46
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:so... if ISIS captured you & forced you to pick between Metroid or Castlevania.. which would you choose? The terrorists' game is the only one I refuse to play. I choose both.
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Jan 24, 2015 20:23
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:so... if ISIS captured you & forced you to pick between Metroid or Castlevania.. which would you choose? Castlevania
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Jan 24, 2015 20:24
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:so... if ISIS captured you & forced you to pick between Metroid or Castlevania.. which would you choose? Which Castlevania? If it's Castlevania 3 or 1 then hell yeah motherbitches, but I don't think I can beat Castlevania 3.
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:castlevania here Hell I can respect that
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