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Should I just disable Crimson Court as a new player?
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Jun 27, 2017 16:04
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When I started my new campaign last night, my first Plague Doctor had "will only Gamble" and "is not allowed to Gamble"  RNGesus is funny
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Jun 28, 2017 02:32
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Why are Lepers bad? My Lepers tend to do more damage than anyone else I have bar Highwaymen and Flaggelents.
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Jun 28, 2017 18:50
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Hellion, my Hellion is my MVP pretty much. What's the best use for Antiquarians? They seem... not good.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:27
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I think I must be totally clueless because Jester seems decent to me. Being able to heal a ton of Stress while keeping the last enemy stunlocked with a Plague Doctor seems pretty useful for Short quests. edit: they should really patch in a "quickstart campaign" so you don't have to do the tutorials every time you start a new realm. Turning off Tutorials should just drop you at town at "first real quest" stage precision fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 19:44
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Should I be doing the first Ruins boss quest ASAP or is the fact that it still says "Apprentice (Lv. 1)" a trap?
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Jun 30, 2017 04:04
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It sounds like non-Radiant difficulty is more of a pain than interesting? Like, Jesters aren't bad on Radiant
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Jul 1, 2017 05:05
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Plague Doctors are female?
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Jul 1, 2017 18:36
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I'm having a lot of fun restarting every 13 weeks or so before things get hard
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Jul 3, 2017 19:31
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Is there some ultra secret reward for keeping Dismas and Reynault alive to the end?
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Jul 3, 2017 21:45
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Internet Kraken posted:No I'm not playing on Radiant. I'd play on Blood Moon but with the time limit and new mechanics/bosses, I wanted to finish a run on the normal mode before going back to NG+. I never use the Flagellant's heal ability and I don't feel gimped On Radiant Difficulty levels exist, please don't encourage them to make this game HARDER
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Jul 4, 2017 18:46
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Highwang posted:Yeah, especially in Stygian Mode where its "everything will hit and often crit. Get hosed nerd." And to be a little less flip or dismissive, having some classes be OP and some be "dead weight" is the most basic roguelike component, going at least back to the late 80s in NetHack where Wizards and Valkyries are "easy mode" and Tourists are "haha you think the Jester is bad?"
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Jul 4, 2017 18:59
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Internet Kraken posted:Call me crazy but I think things being mostly balanced is just ~good game design~. When you have more options to use, things are more fun. I mean, I agree, but I don't think the best solution is "nerf good characters". In a single player game with multiple difficulty levels (the highest of which has only been completed by something like half of 1% of all players) it's probably better to buff than nerf. Flagellant's healing is too good? Fine, make the Plague Doctor's better or something. It's better to give more toys than take toys away. DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:the tourist is better than the jester by far. grayswandir and a silver saber at once, along with free item charging?? The challenge is keeping them alive long enough to get to that point. Post-Castle, every class in NH is a cakewalk.
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Jul 4, 2017 19:30
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Wizard Styles posted:Most of the game is already not that hard Maybe for people like you and I, but my wife finds it incredibly difficult even on Radiant. That's my point here, try to realize that not everyone is gonna be desiring a kick in the nuts. I daresay many people are happy about the Flagellent. It's a game with difficulty levels and mods, it can be as hard as you want. That's why the Jester nerf was so dumb; it was unnecessary. If the Flagellent is OP, so? You can only ever have one of them anyway. Just really not agreeing with the "I'm very good at this game and I demand that something that makes the game easier for casuals be nerfed" being applied to a single player game.
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Jul 4, 2017 19:40
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Wizard Styles posted:It has nothing to do with the Flagellant Well that's what started the discussion and is the only thing I'm specifically referencing
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Jul 4, 2017 19:57
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I'm still not sure why you need to nerf anything in a single player game with difficulty modes. If the argument is that the Flag is too good, what is the specific and actual harm in leaving him alone? It gives players who aren't good at the game more options. Unless they buff every other class on Radiant, why nerf Flag on every difficulty? You can just not use the class if your only complaint is that he's too good, especially since you have to pay money for him to even exist in your game.
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Jul 4, 2017 20:27
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Digirat posted:I saw this exact thing happen to payday 2 and warframe Neither of which are single player games. Can't someone just make a mod that nerfs Flagellant? Would it even be particularly hard to make? If Flagellant is too powerful and is a must use, how did anyone play the game before Crimson Court even existed?  And I'm still waiting on any answer to what the harm Flagellant is doing. You have to pay tenbux to even have access to him. He comes with a DLC that makes the game much more difficult, so... doesn't it make some sense that he is powerful? Especially since you can only ever have one of them? I asked my wife about this and bears out what I've been saying - she's glad Flag is good because the game is very very hard for most video game players. I get that the game is supposed to be hard, but arguing in favor of an official change to make the game harder is just weird and smacks of stupid chest-pounding "git gud" crap that always surrounds games of this nature. precision fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Jul 4, 2017 22:53
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Internet Kraken posted:Some people play games for the challenge of it. Making a broken class that removes the challenge isn't fun for them. I'd like to be able to use him, as more options is more fun, but not when he's making everything way easier due to his broken mechanics. And some people (like my wife and I'm sure many others) find this game incredibly challenging even on Radiant and so having a "broken" class that makes the game easier is a positive for them. I don't get why this is so hard to understand.
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Jul 4, 2017 23:17
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:yes why let more people enjoy the game the precious game it's mine my preciiouusssss Yeah that's where I was afraid this was going, sad that I was right 
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Jul 4, 2017 23:38
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"Red Hook should implement yet another difficulty level, eventually, and nerf Flagellant right drat now, because I am a robot and/or have no self-control. If something is in the game, I must use it!"
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Jul 4, 2017 23:50
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Internet Kraken posted:Basically this. If you have concerns about the difficulty for new players you should be looking to Red Hook to make an easier game mode. My wife and I have been playing for the exact same amount of time. I have never even had a character die and I almost never use Flagellant (until today I had no idea he was "broken"!) Some people are just inherently not as good at certain kinds of games, especially games like this with permanent consequences that can't be save-scummed around. Punishing them because you aren't good enough to beat the game on the hardest difficulty without using a strong character is some incredibly elitist bullshit.
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Jul 4, 2017 23:53
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If using the Flagellant makes you feel like you're "cheating" I think the problem is in your brain, not the game's code. Isn't it possible he's intended to be very strong, since he comes with a DLC that makes the game much harder?
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Jul 5, 2017 00:16
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Soothing Vapors posted:there's also very little reason to be so very concerned about nerfs, because there will be a mod on the workshop 25 minutes after they nerf the flag restoring him to his former glory. Sorry but using mods makes me feel like I'm cheating.
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Jul 5, 2017 00:18
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Internet Kraken posted:And no, I don't think he was intended to be insanely strong to balance out the DLC because that makes no sense. You're ignoring that by design you have to use multiple heroes and team comps where the Flagellant won't be present. It's almost as if you're also ignoring that fact because "Flagellant is too strong" is inherently balanced by "You can't use him in every run". 
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Jul 5, 2017 00:28
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Maluco Marinero posted:See here's the thing buddy, you're implying that players who want a harder challenge should just mod it too. No, I'm just saying that people are blowing how good the Flag is way out of proportion and if they want the game to be harder they could just not use him. Or they could use Jesters. quote:Single Player balance is essential for longevity of a single player strategy/tactics game, otherwise once people discover the optimum, they may very well just stop playing, the game's 'solved'. People still play NetHack. Many play it "suboptimally" on purpose. e: also holy poo poo how could you miss that "using mods makes me feel like I'm cheating" was a joke based on Kraken saying that using the Flag makes him "feel like [he's] cheating"
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Jul 5, 2017 00:45
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Maluco Marinero posted:Oh, okay, so your counter-argument is "all that poo poo you said doesn't matter"? Good to know... Well, I'm still waiting on someone to answer why having Flag be good is harmful. Is it ideal? I guess if you think every class should be equally viable, then yes, it's not ideal. But, legit question, have Red Hook ever said that every class is supposed to be equal in power level? Even pre-nerf Jester was noticeably worse than almost everyone else, so either Red Hook are OK with class imbalance (maybe they WANT people to discover how good the Flag is?) or they're bad at making their own game. I keep intentionally phrasing things like "Isn't it possible?" whereas many people arguing with me seem to be speaking as if they work at Red Hook. I legitimately don't know what their design philosophy is here, but at least I admit that.
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Jul 5, 2017 00:52
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I truly apologize for coming off as harsh as I did in that argument. I've had a bad week involving crazy people threatening me at work, not that that makes it better! I do hope they can work out some balance issues that make the game too RNG dependant. Maybe for a high price you can recruit specific characters? Like if the RNG has been giving you no front line dudes, you can pay a few thousand to recruit from the "warrior" pool.
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Jul 5, 2017 03:24
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If I'm being honest, I probably would have backed this game on the art style alone
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Jul 5, 2017 03:35
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I think in the early game the Highwaymen are A rank if not S. They certainly seem to rack up a whole lot of damage with Grapeshot Blast and Open Vein.
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Jul 5, 2017 20:05
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:waaaait how long has it been since you were able to shift-click provisions to buy an entire stack? are you loving kidding me Well at least I didn't play for 2 years without knowing that 
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Jul 5, 2017 20:49
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I always knew you could switch abilities mid-dungeon but for a while I kept forgetting to set the "good" abilities on my new dudes and ended up starting the first fight with awful/no options.
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Jul 5, 2017 21:51
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What effects does the level of an area have? Will Apprentice quests eventually stop appearing, do the dungeons get harder with every level, or is it just a way to unlock the bosses?
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Jul 6, 2017 02:38
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Dongicus posted:Should I just sell trinkets that have a speed malus? they dont seem worth having at all. Speed can't go below 0 and some low level heroes have 0-4 Speed so the hit to Speed is negligible compared to the benefit (depending on the trinket) In my experience (I'm a scrub)
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Jul 6, 2017 02:48
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Drewjitsu posted:I find that having a low speed Healer is usually a benefit, as you get to react to where the healing is most needed rather than guessing. Yeah it's especially helpful to do a Party Heal at the very end of a round when there's only 1 enemy left that you know you can finish off (unless all your guys decide to miss that turn )
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Jul 6, 2017 03:13
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Ugh I don't want to have to use a mod but the stacking limits or lack thereof are so bullshit.
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Jul 7, 2017 23:37
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Mzbundifund posted:...Egg man? We, all, dressed in black, we snuck up around the back I hit the endgame and I've decided this game is basically perfect if you ignore the titular Darkest Dungeon entirely
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Jul 10, 2017 23:02
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Drewjitsu posted:Am I just super lucky and never really roll bad on occultist healing? Because his load out is the healing head + Churigon's Charm, and he rarely (if ever) rolls 0. A rough guess would be 0-1 times per dungeon. Same here, I started a new game the other night and I'm up to week 30 and I can count the number of sub-3 heals on one hand. I've been routinely bringing him as my only healer. The Bleed has almost never procced either. I know the plural of "anecdote" isn't "data" but it really feels like there is something going on. Is he more likely to heal well when there's plenty of light? Or not stressed? It's crazy that in 10-12 hours of play both of my Occultists have been so lucky, whereas last time I played (month ago or two ago?) I got lots of 0-3 heals.
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Sep 12, 2017 11:35
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Trickling out new classes for a few bucks each is great, I hope they do more. Warts and all, at the end of the day DD is one of my most-played games in recent memory (only Persona 5 and Pillars of Eternity come close, I've played PoE about twice as many hours as DD)
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Oct 24, 2017 20:25
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I'm really digging Shieldbreaker so far. Started a fresh game because why not! I might like her even more than Hellion but maybe that's just because she's new.
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Oct 29, 2017 00:48
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Your Gay Uncle posted:So I've been playing a bit more and think I've gotten a handle on things ( a little). I upgraded the blacksmith a little bit but that didn't seem to do much so I've been pumping everything into the pub and abbey so I can de-stress as many people at once as possible. I wouldn't do this. The Pub/Abbey are perfectly fine out of the gate, they should be the very last things you upgrade. Blacksmith is one of the FIRST and best things to upgrade.
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Nov 3, 2017 02:34
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