Dolash posted:

It shouldn't be as hard to convince people as it was with Chloe - ask them to give you an item, travel back in time and show you have the item. Or ask them to think of a number between 1 and 1000, tell it to you, then go back in time and tell them the number they're thinking of. Or do the time-travel teleport thing I like using so Max can cross the map in about two real-time seconds.

Junkfist posted:

There's a "Collectables Mode" where you just replay the area in your save file so you can get them with no decisions or actions carrying over so probably not.

Dolash posted:

I was thinking more introducing the fact that she can travel into photos and conspiring with Chloe on how to use that to get the outcomes they wanted. Instead she gave up at the first hurdle without even trying to jump over it. It's almost enough to say "why bother introducing all this if it goes nowhere?", I get that it has potential character development implications for Max to see the 'what if?' possibilities without the writers wanting to restructure the whole story around alternate timelines but it's such a clumsy, heavy-handed way to do it that leaves Max looking dumb. Jumping into photos is 10x as powerful as rewinding but let's drop it down the memory hole because it's harder to use.

Dolash posted:

The false choice between the two timelines feels contrived, not by the limitations of Max's perspective and character but just by the writing. She does mention not relying too heavily on her powers from time to time and she certainly doesn't understand them well enough that worrying about them failing on her is a valid concern, but she seems to treat the problem like she can't fix it rather than she won't or is scared to try.

Dolash posted:

Yet it didn't stop her from trying to save William in the first place, or letting him die again (which was really choosing to meddle a second time, it's not an undo button). The thing that discouraged her was seeing that saving William had an unexpected knock-on consequence of killing Chloe, but we weren't given some kind of The Time Machine idea that time required one of them to die, it was just a freak happenstance. Rather than try to fix that too, though, it makes Max turn back (which means using her powers again anyway), which is frustrating because she was willing to try so much and there are viable solutions in reach but why she won't keep trying is sort of intangible. Do other solutions just not occur to her, this time? Is she misunderstanding the situation and how her powers work? Is she more scared of her power failing the third time than the previous two? It's frustrating.

One of the weird upsides of the sequence being so isolated from the rest of the story is that it's possible to just sort of ignore it as some big, weird dream Max had.

Larry Parrish posted:

This guy writes way too many words to say nothing in particular

Whalley posted:

PRKBD,

RightClickSaveAs posted:

THFCLT - The Faculty http://i.imgur.com/F8Ag3iT.jpg

spudsbuckley posted:

How does no one realise that it will be released near Halloween? It's Halloween in game.

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I was playing this yesterday (really super fuckin' awesome game by the way) and I had an interesting glitch during a cut scene.


Or maybe we can chalk it up to atmosphere.

Pawn 17 posted:

Wow is ep 5 coming out already? I guess time goes by faster between eps when not obsessively checking the steam page/forums everyday.

Arcland posted:

He stares outside of your window when you wake up an photoshops himself in pictures with you.

Buzkashi posted:

My best friend and I are basically under the impression that the only people who are sacrificing Arcadia Bay are doing it out of irony or spite, because I think only a complete monster would honestly be like "Yes Chloe I'm totally okay with your mom dying horribly in a diner explosion so I can have you all to myself forever."

BobTheJanitor posted:

Sad but true. Especially disappointing given the previous episodes proving that they can do good, non-cliched writing. I remember discussing this a few months back and telling people 'there's no way they're going to do a grimdark ending where you can't change inevitable fate, because this team clearly knows what they're doing and wouldn't ever make such a novice blunder.'

WELP.

seravid posted:

sighnoceros posted:

I'm wondering if maybe the lesson actually IS an intentional "if you try to change fate you just make things worse", simply because of what does happen if you get Victoria to listen to you. If you are nice to her along the way and do everything right to make her believe you that Nathan is a bad guy, she goes running to Jefferson about it and gets caught and taken to the dark room to be killed. Where if you just leave her alone and don't do anything, that never happens. So you actively trying to protect her is what causes her to be put in danger. Man, gently caress these writers.

Radish posted:

Yeah I think the theme of everything would have worked out great if you just didn't do anything was very intentional and also really stupid. It would be one thing if this was a movie but as a game it's silly. Having an ending where you tell the player that their involvement in the game was all a waste feels like some kind of art house thing where you watch the reactions of people after you tell them over ten hours of game play how much their choices matter then take them all away in the last literal minute of the game. It feels like the developers are trying to subvert the choose your path styled games in a meta way and I really don't appreciate it when I just want to play a game and not be part of their art project.

redreader posted:

Did anyone else already mention that after saving the goth girl (alyssa?) a bunch of times, she refuses to be helped by you later on because 'every time I see you something flies at my head', or whatever?

BobTheJanitor posted:

What do you do with all the leftover anticipation?

BobTheJanitor posted:

Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?