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Encouraging roleplay is tough, since people can be embarrassed or simply not all that into it. Try to make an obvious roleplay encounter once in a while, and reward anyone who participates a bit. Put extra effort into room descriptions if you can, since that's where players pull their ideas and inspirations from sometimes. Have bad guys and villains talk to them or to other monsters for a chance at interactions. Or better yet, fold some encounter design into it. Instead of saying "there are five goblins in the room", why not try something along the lines of " The room is covered in mouldy furs and splintered furniture. Four goblins sit clustered around a brazier using pieces of chairs for firewood while a fifth naps in a dark corner." Now, if they catch the goblins off guard, the goblins don't run for their weapons, they grab their pokers or sticks from the fire and use them as improvised weapons that deal additional 1d4 (or appropriate) fire dmamge, ongoing 2 with save ends if you feel particularly vicious. If a player grabs a stick? Same deal. Wizard wants to toss a surprise firebolt into the brazier causing it to flare and deal area-of-effect to all four? Sure. Goblin drops a weapon or the brazier spills? Room starts on fire. If they sneak in? Rogue gets an opportunity to sneak and coup de gras the sleeping goblin and knock one out early. Dont get hung up writing novels about details, but even one little detail tells the players something about the picture of the room in your head that they can work with. Let them use their character traits. One of my favorite things about this campaign so far is the fighter who took dice proficiency. In the Redbrand hideout in the module, there's a group of guys playing a dice game. When getting ready to burst in the room, they listen at the door and I give the fighter advantage since he's hearing the sounds of dice rattling and people cheering or groaning, etc. They end up having the rest of the party hide, while the fighter puts on a stolen red cloak and just walks in, poses as a new guy and asks to join the game. At this point I play an actual dice game with the player (a bluffing game adapted from a drinking game we have) and essentially roll to modulate how good the gang members are bluffing by making better or worse bluffs in this little minigame. He manages to win all the gold at the table and sees these guys are getting angry, so he offers them all their gold back if they go 'take his patrol shift in town' that starts in a few minutes. They guys all grumble, but grab their gold and file away out of the hideout, clearing the room without the sounds of combat alerting the next room. I also make use of the inspiration optional rule and its worked great. Basically, if someone does particularly good roleplay or has a good idea, I give them an 'inspiration point' which they can us at any time to get advantage on a roll. It helps them pull off clutch rolls or big attacks, which feels good to them as a player. I also try to actively discourage meta-gaming and number crunching beyond a reasonable level, and will give out disadvantage on rolls that are particularly disingenuous, such as trying to roll for the same thing multiple times without a good reason. Unless it's a skill check of some kind, you don't just get to hammer away at something until you roll a 20.
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I was invited to DM a few sessions for my semi-regular group this weekend. I had been cooking up an idea for a world and a few initial encounters. I haven't played a ton of D&D before. My group has been doing a little bit of D&D and a little bit of Age of Rebellion over the last 8 or 9 months. Aside from the cheatsheet, the donjon tools and the goblinist encounter generator, is there anything else that's really super useful for DMing? The thing I'm most afraid of is having to spend a ton of time looking things up. Ease of life tool suggestions would be appreciated.
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I have found that the Complete Spell Sheets Per Class pdf is incredibly useful for any spellcasters. While it won't help you DM directly, it does cut down on your players looking stuff up, which is always a plus http://www.enworld.org/forum/rpgdownloads.php?do=file&fileid=4156
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I'm letting my friends play whatever race/class combos they wanted and wound up with Dwarf Warlock, Dragonborn Monk and Tiefling Paladin. I was planning on using story elements to make the warlock's familiar a little more independent, even insubordinate, but giving it low level rogue and cleric class skills just to sort of fill out a toolkit for the party. Is this generally considered to be alright to do? Am I risking game-breaking stuff later on, as long as I limit the familiar's power creep and motivating contributions?
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Honestly, you should be fine. Just make sure it doesn't scale as fast as the rest of the party. This will give it relevant non-combat tools the party can use, but stops the warlock from essentially having two characters. Since it's a familiar (albeit an insubordinate one), you shouldn't have any problems with stealing the spotlight or getting the DM too involved in party decisions. The biggest thing is that your players are on board with the idea. If so, it sounds like a cool story idea and a tidy solution to an incomplete party.
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Kaza42 posted:Honestly, you should be fine. Just make sure it doesn't scale as fast as the rest of the party. This will give it relevant non-combat tools the party can use, but stops the warlock from essentially having two characters. Since it's a familiar (albeit an insubordinate one), you shouldn't have any problems with stealing the spotlight or getting the DM too involved in party decisions. I tied it into a cataclysmic event. Dwarf Warlock gets a Fae pact. goes to arcane college to learn how to break it, re-pact with great old ones, causes massive explosion that pulls his "fae anchor spirit"-nee-familiar into the world, so it'll be a bit more autonomous and not entirely subservient since it wasn't summoned using the usual binding ritual. The player loves the idea of being responsible for an event like that, the other members got caught up in the explosion and survived. First session this weekend will be the meeting-up, "we need to get out of here" type event that will bring them together and start forming the party.
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Frush posted:Encouraging roleplay is tough, since people can be embarrassed or simply not all that into it. Try to make an obvious roleplay encounter once in a while, and reward anyone who participates a bit. From this and your other story you sound like a really good DM. I want to read how this ends when it does.
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I managed to get through the first DM session to generally positive feedback from my friends. They're excited to play again (so they say). I put their characters into a situation to bring them together, but now I'm trying to think up a hook to keep them together. Other than the "we're all friends and want to keep playing, so we'll follow this weird dwarf around", I want to give them a narrative reason not to just all go their own ways, as they probably logically would. Does anyone have tips on how to work that sort of thing into their games?
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You can either go for a plot reason, like all being wanted for the same crime, or sharing the same goal, or inter-character ones such as the fighter being the wizard's sister, the cleric wants to redeem the warlock, etc. with the latter you can get your players to come up with stuff and give out inspiration for meaningfully referencing them.
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My very first experience with D&D 5th edition may well be as the DM (also my very first time DM'ing a live game). Right now I'm working on forming a small group, and we'll likely be starting with only 2 to 3 players (not including me). Are there any good published adventures for a party that small, and that are fairly friendly to newbie DM's? I guess Phandelver would be the ideal one for someone DM'ing for the first time, but is it workable for a smaller group?
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Phandelver is workable for smaller groups with a bit of effort from the DM. Your major issue is going to be the fact that 5e is extremely lethal towards lower level characters, even in a group of five. They simply don't have the HP to deal with the monsters at low level or the damage output to finish fights before they take damage. That realistically leaves you with three main options. First, you could play as is. It'll be a rough go that way until about level three at least. Second, you could remove monsters from each encounter. That first fight has four goblins if I recall, so make it two. It's a little less epic, but makes sense if you buy into the whole 'XP budget' concept. Third, you could fudge the HP/Damage the monsters are doing a bit. This is my preferred option, and works especially well if you are rolling from behind a screen. Savvy players who are metagaming heavy might eventually pick up on this, but that's just another reason to discourage metagaming. To put it in perspective, in our current campaign (I'll throw up another post eventually when I have more time) our level four wizard has a whole 15 HP, while those goblins in the first encounter do 1d6+2 damage, even at range. And there is four in an ambush situation. With 2-3 players and if you roll well, you could have a total party kill in the round after the surprise round easily. Also, unless one of your characters is a healer, I suggest that healing potions are now a more frequent drop, or have gone down in price in towns. There doesn't seem to be a huge abundance of published adventures for 5e yet. Princes of the Apocalypse and Hoard of the Dragon Queen seem to be the other common ones, but admittedly I'm not keeping track. If you're willing to do some conversions (not the most beginner friendly), I also liked the Keep on the Shadowfell adventure from 4e. You can also look up free ones online (both for 5e and other editions) and just put in the monster stat blocks from 5e, but you never know who designed them and some of those old DMs are hardcore. Seriously though, google search 'D&D critical miss table'. They'd have you roll a the percentile die on a fumble, and the 100 is literally 'you decapitate yourself' on some of them. TL;DR - Phandelver is fine, but fudge some rolls/ alter HP & damage for the first couple dungeons or you'll wipe the party.
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koreban posted:I managed to get through the first DM session to generally positive feedback from my friends. They're excited to play again (so they say). Personally I'd just give them a general goal (say, finding the Lost Emerald of Ixn for Archmage Xavinar) and ask them why they're still traveling together. After all, they're as invested in keeping this group of PCs together as you are. They probably have a reason to stick with the rest of these idiots in their heads that they'd probably like better than whatever you'd come up with.
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Frush posted:Seriously though, google search 'D&D critical miss table'. They'd have you roll a the percentile die on a fumble, and the 100 is literally 'you decapitate yourself' on some of them. With certain groups I could see this being kinda fun though. I think Nerd Poker plays with a houserule like that.
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I think it could be fun under the right circumstances too, notably if its a game where people aren't too attached to their characters. A friend of mine has a campaign where they used such a list. It was an evil campaign, and one of the characters was brand new. He was an orc character and as part of his introduction to the campaign was challenging a rival for leadership of the clan. So they set up the fighting ring, make their taunts and show off... ...and the character fumbles his first ever combat roll, severs his own leg, and has his skull crushed as he lies prone by his rival. Reroll a character. So yeah, I can see it going either way in terms of fun, but it'll never benefit the players at all mechanically.
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I was hoping for some notes on a homebrew Barbarian archetype, a dex-based whirling dervish type. Right thread for that? I looked at a few versions of the idea on other forums but I didn't like the way they looked, so I just threw something together cribbing features from other parts of the PHB. Just wondering if anything was particularly overpowered or pointless. In particular I was thinking the character might work out as simply too hard to kill.quote:Path of the Dervish
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EvanSchenck posted:I was hoping for some notes on a homebrew Barbarian archetype, a dex-based whirling dervish type. Right thread for that? I looked at a few versions of the idea on other forums but I didn't like the way they looked, so I just threw something together cribbing features from other parts of the PHB. Just wondering if anything was particularly overpowered or pointless. In particular I was thinking the character might work out as simply too hard to kill. I'm not sure which is the right thread either, but in my opinion you're right; you've made it too hard to kill. Resistance to all physical damage types? To make meaningful damage against any player using this you'll have to be doing the type of damage that'll be crippling to any other class, and would one-hit casters. You'll likely end up having to find ways around your own class build, which kind of ruins the point. The way I see it you've essentially got it figured that no armor means twice the hits for twice the damage, so you're hoping that resistances will put that back where to should be. And if you're careful and design encounters around it, it might. What I predict will actually happen here is that your player will find ways like feats or high dex to just grab a bunch of AC anyway, rendering him nigh-unkillable, or he'll have a low AC and take so many more hits that even half damage isn't going to ameliorate the extra incoming damage he's going to wind up taking. +1 AC while dual wielding isn't going to scale enough to save the player a world of hurt for long, and making it scale would just make him more unkillable. Then you later get evasion and uncanny dodge? And this whole thing looks set up to use dex as a primary stat? I would play this class multiclassed with bard so that my laughter as weapons bounced off me and the DM got increasingly frustrated managed to somehow damage enemies as well. Edit: Reading it back again, this sounds a little scathing when its not meant to be, sorry. There are some fun ideas here like the dancing bit and trancing and whatnot. Frush fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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Frush posted:I'm not sure which is the right thread either, but in my opinion you're right; you've made it too hard to kill. Resistance to all physical damage types? To make meaningful damage against any player using this you'll have to be doing the type of damage that'll be crippling to any other class, and would one-hit casters. You'll likely end up having to find ways around your own class build, which kind of ruins the point. The regular Rage ability of the barb already does this. At level 3 a Bear barb has resistance to everything but psychic damage while raging. Honestly that derv is probably fine, it's just yet another class/archetype that eclipses the Fighter and Rogue. Generic Octopus fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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Generic Octopus posted:The regular Rage ability of the barb already does this. At level 3 a Bear barb has resistance to everything but psychic damage while raging. Oh, just looked it over and I guess it does! Shows you how often I've looked at the barbarian stuff. :P I still think it's not a good idea to encourage a high dex here as a tradeoff with strength. It's too survavable with the barbarian bonuses to unarmored AC. You'll end up with a CON/DEX tank who can also rage for resistances, gets advantage on reckless attacks, etc. Trying to have your cake and eat it too, I think.
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Which is exactly the same as a regular Barbarian, except the regular Barbarian will be stretched thin on stats, unless they roll for stats and do well. The problem isn't that this dex based Dervish is potentially too strong, the problem is the Barbarian uses Con+Dex for AC instead of Str+Con.
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Generic Octopus posted:Honestly that derv is probably fine, it's just yet another class/archetype that eclipses the Fighter and Rogue. Sure, the barbarian as written in the PHB already does that. I was just looking at an alternative theme for a barbarian aside from hitting stuff with a huge axe. I guess a more appropriate question would be whether it's dramatically better or worse than the barbarian paths already in the PHB--the totem warrior and berserker. Frush posted:The way I see it you've essentially got it figured that no armor means twice the hits for twice the damage, so you're hoping that resistances will put that back where to should be. My expectation was actually kind of the opposite, I think a character with these features would be trading damage potential for survivability and versatility compared to other barbarian paths. Barbarians get unarmored defense to add their dex and con bonuses to AC when unarmored. Conversely, damage from dual wielding scales poorly in comparison with great weapons after you get your extra attacks, but a great weapon user is forgoing dexterity to pump strength. Being dex-based, this guy can get the most out of the unarmored defense feature, and he has better options as far as sneaking out of combat or using ranged weapons. Ryuujin posted:The problem isn't that this dex based Dervish is potentially too strong, the problem is the Barbarian uses Con+Dex for AC instead of Str+Con. More or less.
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It's basically "all the twf feats and class features from every class in one." Which is overpowered, and not how ACFs work anymore. Take a look at the Swashbuckler rogue, which basically exists to get rid of rules restrictions on cool stuff, like TWF with a character who has really good bonus actions already. The barbarian has the same problem where they can't use the Charge feat or TWF on their big first turn, which is emphasized for them because of their initiative buffing features, because they have to blow their bonus action on entering rage. That's the core of the reason for this ACF, so just solve that. An easy way would be make it so they can trade shield proficiency and the ability to wear a shield and benefit from Unarmored Defense for something like: once per turn when they hit with a weapon attack they can add their offhand damage dice if that weapon can reach the target. At level 5, twice per turn. That way you have a barb that can TWF and enter rage, or use their bonus action dash, or whatever on the same turn. Also they'll have a better off turn attack if they pick up Riposte or Sentinel or something. Then leave the rest alone. Don't give them a bunch of Dex synergy, and the good defensive moves from rogue, and an AC bonus from a feat for free. If someone really wants that stuff, they can buy the feats and multiclass.
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slydingdoor posted:Then leave the rest alone. Don't give them a bunch of Dex synergy, and the good defensive moves from rogue, and an AC bonus from a feat for free. If someone really wants that stuff, they can buy the feats and multiclass. ok, thanks, that's very helpful
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Here's an old question that I cannot seem to find a equitable solution to. Polymorph turns a guy into a sheep (goat statistic block) due to Wild Surge. He had a concentration spell up (the very spell that produced the wild surge). The surge itself does not break concentration due to a recent errata saying as such, but what about Polymorph itself? It says the new form cannot speak or cast spells and is limited to only it's own stat block for actions/etc. Concentration isn't an action or a skill, but just a duration of a spell. Since he can't cast a spell in this new form, does that mean he can't maintain a pre-existing spell? Is Concentration (the mechanic) something a sheep can do? For a different scenario, what about a Wizard that polymorphs himself willingly, like a Transmutation Wizard would do with his level 10 class ability?
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Polymorph doesn't break concentration, but they'll have a new Con save that might suck and can't use feats anymore.
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slydingdoor posted:Polymorph doesn't break concentration, but they'll have a new Con save that might suck and can't use feats anymore. I would also interpret polymorph as not breaking concentration. I don't think it's a stupid question though, since I don't see anything in the spell description that mentions concentration. Is there a rule elsewhere that mentions it, or was it clarified or erratad at some point?
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It tends to generate arguments whether it should or shouldn't because a "naturalistic" interpretation might lead one to think that it should break concentration simply by virtue of being friggin' polymorphed, especially if the resulting form is a creature that cannot cast spells in the first place.
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My own findings suggest that, as the rules are written, you cannot be polymorphed and continue to concentrate. You lack the arcane knowledge in which to continue invoking your spell - that was lost when your brain and body became a toad or whatever. Rules as Intended, simple logic deduces that polymorph can't break concentration. Otherwise that wizard ability is entirely non-functional. As well, Wild Shape has something specifically about this very issue, yet Polymorph does not. It is reasonable to take from Wild Shape and apply it to Polymorph, although that does fly in the face of "specific beats general" as Wild Shape is its own mechanic. Yet, we have nothing else to work with. The only counter to this being, is the wizard ability a mistake? A hold over from an older edition, like how Grappler feat's third bullet point about grappling larger creatures is? We ought to have been given an answer to that by now. I'm ruling it in favor of the player because I already don't like thinking about this for as long as I have. I'll make him take the standard DC check because shifting bodies unexpected is still a speed bump to the mental processes, I would say. In the end, Up To The DM shenangians, I just wanted to be sure I was not missing anything obvious.
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gradenko_2000 posted:especially if the resulting form is a creature that cannot cast spells in the first place. That's the part that makes me really unsure what the actual intention of the rules is. Also saying that Polymorph doesn't end concentration spells kind of clashes thematically with "The creature can’t activate, use, wield, or otherwise benefit from any of its equipment", which I'm assuming causes rings of protection and similar items to stop functioning for hte duration of the polymorph.
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http://www.sageadvice.eu/2014/10/22/polymorph-concentration/ There are no stupid questions only stupid overpowered legacy spells. I guess casting the spell is one thing and concentrating on it afterwards is another. Once its cast it doesn't matter how smart or wise or charismatic you are anymore, just how well you can take a punch. e; Adventure hook: poisoned sickly wizard polymoprhs self into some high Con healing factor monster to stave off death, becomes too stupid to want to let the spell end when the illness/poison have passed. Turns into the incredible hulk. Only the Mage Slayer martial guy has a chance in hell of knocking some sense into them. slydingdoor fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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Well.. poo poo. I'll revised my ruling and clear the air then. I really don't like not getting some kind of reason or rational behind it, especially after reading so many good arguments for it being one way or the other all over the internet (not that I wanted to do it, but I'd rather kill half a day to make sure my players are not being shafted than gently caress up a ruling because I half-assed my research). All we are left with is our own opinions. Lame, but what can you do. e: though I appreciate the info, thank you.
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My guiding principle as a GM tends to be to favor the ruling that the players prefer or is more beneficial to them, since I can always pull more rabbits out of my hat. The Wizard can turn themselves into a dragon, and if they want to be able to retain concentration through the polymorph, I guess that's okay, because there's always another more problems where that came from.
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There are magic items with effects that require concentration anyway, and you don't need arcane knowledge to drink a potion.
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Looking for low level Spell ideas for my Half-Elf Bard (Lore when I hit level 3) doing Out of the Abyss, party consists of me, Cleric, Paladin, Monk, and sometimes a Wizard who frequently has to work but will come when he gets the chance. I feel like my party role should be somewhere between Wizard and Rogue but I dont have a ton of options for the first few levels, and also Drow being immune to sleep is/was annoying. Right now I've got: Cantrips: Prestidigitation Vicious Mockery 1st: Faerie Fire Bane Sleep Dissonant Whispers At level 2 now thinking about getting Healing Word, Disguise Self, or Thunderwave maybe?
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Thunderwave is solid if you rush in, Dodge, and get a bunch of enemies on you (probably better for a Valor Bard, though) Healing Word you'll for sure want if you're the main healer, but you have a Cleric so maybe not. Bane is kinda lovely from what I hear but the others are quite good.
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Made my first 5e character, is it all in order? going for lore bard when I hit level 3 Imnolu Drow Bard 1 HP 10 Prof Bonus +2 Spell Save DC = 13 Spell Atk Mod = +5 Speed 30ft Initiative +3 (add prof mod after level 2) Bardic Inspiration = 3 Saving throws: 0, 5, 2, 0, 0, 5 Worships Eilistraee 8, 16, 14, 10, 10, 16 Criminal: Spy Chaotic Good 5'6'' 105 lbs. Passive Wisdom 12 Skills: Acrobatics, Deception, Investigation, Perception, Persuasion, Stealth Languages: Common, Elvish, Undercommon Black Skin, White Hair, Gold Eyes Personality Trait: I would rather make a new friend than a new enemy Ideal: Freedom Bond: Someone I loved died because of me. Flaw: I turn tail and run when things look bad. Stuff my bard does: Ukelele, Singing and Riddles Cantrips: Vicious Mockery, Friends Spells Known Level 1: Dissonant Whispers, Faerie Fire, Bane, Sleep Drow/Elf Traits +2 Dex/+1 Cha Trance 4 hours sleep = 8 human hours Can cast Faerie Fire 1/day Darkvision 120ft Sunlight Sensitivity Immune to magic sleep, advantage against charm.
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Sunlight sensitivity can be extremely rough depending on the campaign you're in - do you know where you'll be spending most of your time? If it's going to be that Out of the Abyss Adventure, not too bad - otherwise, it seems a little risky.
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Yeah, we are doing Out of the Abyss which I heard is 90% underdark, otherwise I would have just gone with variant human (half elves are banned for some reason)
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I figured I might as well cross-post this from the main NEXT thread, since it's pretty much baseline advice: How to Build a Spellcaster P.d0t posted:Pretty much this; weapons are basically for when you can't be bothered spending slots to make things die. Maybe add this stuff to the OP? Also, from earlier in this thread: How to Prioritize Ability Scores P.d0t posted:To expand on this, as a general D&Dism, I
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I'm going to be starting up in a local group here in the next couple weeks, and I'm pretty torn about how to build my character. So far there is a Fighter and Ranger in the group, though we'll have 5 or 6 people playing including myself. I've been looking at a Sorcerer to start, maybe taking Storm origin. Either that or Favored Soul with the Life domain to get some clutch heals if necessary. With everyone being so new to the game, I'd like to optimize my character without going entirely too overboard into munchkin territory. I've read mixed about Favored Soul being overpowered, though. Would a Sorcerer/Warlock multiclass of some kind be better? Am I pigeonholing myself too much into damage-dealer territory? Our DM is allowing any and all official source material. He's even open to converting some 4e things if we need to, but no homebrew.
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Favored Soul is really strong because it lets you grab armor and shield proficiency without sacrificing caster levels, while also getting access to spells you normally wouldn't as a Charisma based spellcaster from the domain spells. Healing in 5e is very weak unless you're bringing someone back up from the ground with it, because all it does is burn your action to negate the attacker's action. Command (which is available via the knowledge domain) is a much stronger example of damage prevention, which also has narrative and offensive applications. Sorcerer/Warlock has always been an incredibly strong combination, especially if your sorcerer levels are from Favored Soul, as the other sorcerer archetypes don't multiclass as well. Just three levels of sorcerer gets you access to a list of 0th/1st/2nd level spells that warlocks wouldn't normally have access to, as well as two kinds of metamagic. Metamagic types are always selected from the same pool with no level requirements on them, so additional selections after the first two are much lower value, as you start scraping the bottom of the barrel. Being low on sorcerer levels means that you'll have a lower maximum number of sorcery points, but warlock pact slots let you reliably fill your pool back up with a resource that recovers on short rest.
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