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What do you think of when you think of San Diego?    How about Oakland?     Do you think about this?   Well that's because the Chargers and Raiders have spoke about a deal to build a stadium in beautiful Carson, CA Carson is known for it's beauty  quote:On the field, the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders have had as bitter a rivalry as any in the NFL but in a sense, they’re now partners.  JANUARY 12 2017 THE CHARGERS ARE DEAD LONG LIVE THE CHARGERS Top Hats Monthly fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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OP owns for the Kawhi Leonard picture
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Feb 20, 2015 17:18
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A thread referencing the Oakland Coliseum and not mentioning overflowing sewage? A shameful OP.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:29
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seiferguy posted:A thread referencing the Oakland Coliseum and not mentioning overflowing sewage? A shameful OP. 
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Feb 20, 2015 17:31
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I grew up in SD and now live 15 minutes from the new stadium. I'd like to be able to sit here and say I won't root for them, but I don't think I'll be able to hold out hating them for long once they get up here  How did all the Raiders fans in LA keep rooting for them once they moved to Oakland? Weren't they all pissed off too?
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Feb 20, 2015 17:47
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chupacabraTERROR posted:I grew up in SD and now live 15 minutes from the new stadium. I'd like to be able to sit here and say I won't root for them, but I don't think I'll be able to hold out hating them for long once they get up here Probably easier since they didn't have a long established history in LA and we're Oakland's team anyway
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Feb 20, 2015 17:53
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Doesn't actual poo poo spew out of the stadium in Oakland? I think this is a good move.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:55
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The Raiders are actually really cool and the only thing stopping me from changing teams when they inevitably move here is that they aren't any good. Well, see ya
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Feb 20, 2015 17:58
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If you think Seahawks fans are bad, wait until you see Raiders Fans when the team is good
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Feb 20, 2015 18:03
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SA2K posted:If you think Seahawks fans are bad, wait until you see Raiders Fans when the team is good Is that not par for the course for every professional franchise of any sport? The Raiders are cool, I enjoy them and am jealous of their uniforms and helmets.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:07
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Shath Hole posted:Is that not par for the course for every professional franchise of any sport? Historic legacy franchises up the ante. Yankees fans, Lakers fans, Red Wings fans, etc
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Feb 20, 2015 18:09
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SA2K posted:Historic legacy franchises up the ante. Yankees fans, Lakers fans, Red Wings fans, etc Am I allowed to feel pride in the Minneapolis Lakers? This is important
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Feb 20, 2015 18:10
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Am I allowed to feel pride in the Minneapolis Lakers? This is important Why wouldn't you?
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Feb 20, 2015 18:12
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I miss Hollywood Park. Nothing beat $1 blackjack and old people watching hours of ponies. I like how the NFL sent out a memo trying to reestablish control of the LA process after the Rams talked about moving, and now they get blindsided with this going public.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:36
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Now the mayor is talking about the Chargers abandoning generations of Chargers fans. As if the team should just sit back and wait for another failed proposal.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:47
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I'm not sure moving an hour or 2 away is abandoning, especially when like a quarter or half of fans are in LA and OC.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:52
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Its Miller Time posted:I'm not sure moving an hour or 2 away is abandoning, especially when like a quarter or half of fans are in LA and OC. It's a major city to a major city. It's like moving the Jets to Philadelphia
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Feb 20, 2015 18:56
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SA2K posted:It's a major city to a major city. It's like moving the Jets to Philadelphia Maybe if the Jets had once played in Philly, Philly had no existing team, there was no major sports rivalries and a large portion of the Jets fan base was drawn from massive Philly suburbs... Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 18:59
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That one season thst the Chargers played in LA in 1960 formed some strong bonds and a loyal fan base up there, I agree
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Feb 20, 2015 19:02
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Great thread A+ would read again. cool to see the drunken barfight pic out in front of the double deuce that closed down the streets so the cops could wank.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:10
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SA2K posted:It's a major city to a major city. It's like moving the Jets to Philadelphia San Diego would still be in the viewing area and it's not like they are moving a flight away. It's 1/2 of a name change and maybe less going to home games. Die hard Charger fans would still make the trip to see games I would hope. It's not like it's a new timezone and you have to stream every game from now on and struggle to find team gear to buy near you. The team is the same, just in a slightly different spot.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:12
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Athanatos posted:San Diego would still be in the viewing area and it's not like they are moving a flight away. I think people in the city are pretty pissed about how they've been strung along. Fabiani went from, "oh hey, we're working on it" to "gently caress you we're bouncing to LA, and the mayor, the porters, and the hotelers are idiots" in like a span of 3 days. And then it turns out this plan was in the works for a while. I'm not a Charger fan, I just live here, but people feel pretty annoyed and exploited, especially the die hard season ticket holders who probably renewed on hopes that they could work it out.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:15
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Athanatos posted:San Diego would still be in the viewing area and it's not like they are moving a flight away. You don't think Seahawks fans would be mad if they moved the team to Spokane? Or if the Browns or Bengals moved to Columbus?
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Feb 20, 2015 19:17
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This Carson press conference makes it seem like this whole thing is a done deal.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:18
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SA2K posted:You don't think Seahawks fans would be mad if they moved the team to Spokane? Or if the Browns or Bengals moved to Columbus? Mad? gently caress yes. 100% Abandon the team like chicken little? Probably not.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:22
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I am so confused https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/568837643175227393/photo/1
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Feb 20, 2015 19:22
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Athanatos posted:Mad? gently caress yes. 100% As a season ticket holder, it just really really really loving blows, man
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Feb 20, 2015 19:24
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Proportion of Raider fans to Charger fans in LA. Also, hail Hitler.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:25
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SA2K posted:As a season ticket holder, it just really really really loving blows, man Sorry 2k. I feel for you. But we knew this was coming deep down I think. The city didn't do enough and the Chargers didn't want to stay badly enough to bridge the monetary gap.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:27
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I hope the Raiders leave Oakland again, that would be cool.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:41
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SA2K posted:As a season ticket holder, it just really really really loving blows, man It loving sucks and is terrible and the stadium sharing is just an extra lovely topping, I'm sorry if I implied it any other way. I was just befuddled by so many Charger fans saying they are done with the team if this happens when I look at a map and it doesn't seem like a fandom defining move.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:43
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Athanatos posted:It loving sucks and is terrible and the stadium sharing is just an extra lovely topping, I'm sorry if I implied it any other way. San Diegans also have an extreme inferiority complex when it comes to LA. It's not just sports, but I'd say that rooting against the Dodgers and Raiders when they were in LA, and losing the Clippers to LA plays a part.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:48
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Athanatos posted:It loving sucks and is terrible and the stadium sharing is just an extra lovely topping, I'm sorry if I implied it any other way. It's harder to get between those places than it looks on the map. It's definitely doable (I've gone the other direction to go to Chargers games), but it's a way bigger pain that having the team local. And while it's true that the Chargers have a decent sized fanbase in LA, the people actually in San Diego don't view it as a LA suburb or something. It's it's own awesome city and they want it to be treated as such. A team playing in Carson isn't going to feel like it's really part of San Diego.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:48
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MourningView posted:It's harder to get between those places than it looks on the map. It's definitely doable (I've gone the other direction to go to Chargers games), but it's a way bigger pain that having the team local. And while it's true that the Chargers have a decent sized fanbase in LA, the people actually in San Diego don't view it as a LA suburb or something. It's it's own awesome city and they want it to be treated as such. A team playing in Carson isn't going to feel like it's really part of San Diego. Not only that, but San Diego is literally the 8th largest city in the country by population so there's no reason to think of themselves as LA Junior. SD to LA wouldn't even be the shortest distance between two NFL franchises, even ignoring the stupid poo poo like SF to Oakland, Cincinnati and Indianapolis are closer to each other, and I don't think anyone thinks those two teams should share a fanbase or w/e
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Feb 20, 2015 19:56
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On the plus side, the Lennay Kekua fan club can be closer to Te'o
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Feb 20, 2015 20:00
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So what does this do to the Rams? Can LA support three NFL teams?
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Feb 20, 2015 20:01
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The Chargers would be the 6th most popular football team in LA
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Feb 20, 2015 20:04
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SA2K posted:The Chargers would be the 6th most popular football team in LA Maybe right now, but a bunch of people will change teams. The fact that they are better, and will presumably for the near future continue to be better than the raiders is a definite plus
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Feb 20, 2015 20:06
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The Raiders have a pretty big fanbase in the area from the last time they were here even after moving and being terrible, I don't think that's going to decrease dramatically once they're actually playing here again. They're the most popular franchise in the area by a pretty decent margin and always were the most logical team to move back. They didn't move the last time because no one cared about them, they moved because the stadium situation was godawful and LA was broke and had no interest in improving it.
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I wish la could get a team that isn't the Chargers raiders or Rams but beggars can't be choosers.
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