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Lid posted:anyone else got it even? murray pulling ahead after some good head whacking in that round for me
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Feb 22, 2015 00:44
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The best round for Murray. The worst round for Murray. What a poo poo corner.
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Feb 22, 2015 00:48
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Except he stopped de la Hoya (who's fought as high as 160) fatherdog posted:getting TKO stoppages without putting his opponents out or, in the case of Oscar, even down. quote:Hatton (at 147, obliterated him) fatherdog posted:(with the exception of Hatton, who isn't a true welter) quote:and Cotto fatherdog posted:getting TKO stoppages without putting his opponents out quote:That, plus Pacquiao's curious refusal to submit to random blood testing the first time Mayweather/Pacquiao was being negotiated (around the same time Pacquiao was knocking out everyone, coincidentally). Wrong again quote:So calm down with the invective. Calm down with the being wrong about literally everything, dumbass.
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Feb 22, 2015 00:48
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pac hatton was at 140 iirc(not sure if this impacts anyones argument. not really paid attention to it)
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Feb 22, 2015 00:49
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Hahaha man how are you even a moderator? Moving up several weight classes alone literally = diminished power.
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Murray deserves serious cred, took his beating and didn't stay down like some plastic paddy big headed oval office MATTHEW MACKLIN
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that was an uncomfortable flogging. glad it was stopped.
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Feb 22, 2015 00:50
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thehappyprince posted:murray pulling ahead after some good head whacking in that round for me Bad stoppage? I hope someone saw something they thought they could do against GGG here so I get to see him fight someone. Lionel Richie posted:Murray deserves serious cred, took his beating and didn't stay down like some plastic paddy big headed oval office MATTHEW MACKLIN He does, I thought it was over in the fourth or whenever he went down to the body shot.
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Feb 22, 2015 00:50
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golovkin confirmed good enough to win prizefighter. get hearn on the phone
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Marching Powder posted:that was an uncomfortable flogging. glad it was stopped. Murray with too much heart for his own good. Still gave Golovkin a tougher fight than just about anyone else so far.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Hahaha man how are you even a moderator? Moving up several weight classes alone literally = diminished power. Do you not understand the difference between "diminished power" and "the same amount of power applied to bigger, heavier fighters" Probably not, since you've already established that you can't effectively read
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Yeah Cotto go after Khan or whoever, I like you enough that I don't want you to fight GGG.
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fatherdog posted:Do you not understand the difference between "diminished power" and "the same amount of power applied to bigger, heavier fighters" Yeah you're totally right dude 0 KOs in his last 9 fights/5+ years as he gets into his mid-late 30s totally means he hasn't lost any power. Makes sense. Stop threadshitting. You're apparently a moderator. _________________________ As for Golovkin, not really sure where he goes from here. There's really no one else at 160 left for him currently. Miguel Cotto is of course the lineal champion and GGG just called him out, but there's no way in hell Cotto takes that fight unless he's looking to cash out. Peter Quillin is also out there, but if he's willing to vacate his belt instead of fighting Matt Korobov, I imagine he'd fake his own death to avoid a fight with Golovkin. GGG's only real "weakness" seems to be his slight frame. It's not effecting him whatsoever at middleweight, but it could catch up to him if he does plan to move to 168, where he'd be fighting solid guys who are also 3-4 inches taller than him. N'Dam/Lemieux are also fighting for a middleweight title and could create another potential opponent for GGG, but frankly neither one of those guys could contend. N'Dam is chinny as hell, and Lemieux is a Curtis Stevens type in that he has big power and not much else.
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Cotto/Khan would actually be a really good fight and a pretty interesting one.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Yeah you're totally right dude 0 KOs in his last 9 fights/5+ years as he gets into his mid-late 30s totally means he hasn't lost any power. Makes sense. Congratulations on continuing to ignore the actual facts and arguments presented. Somebody going up to welterweight and getting zero knockdowns immediately starting to knock people down again when he goes back to fighting lighter guys is an indication that the lack of KOs is due to the guys he's fighting, not a lack of power. Come up with actual arguments if you want to keep being snide. quote:Stop threadshitting. You're apparently a moderator. It may surprise you to learn that when you make a post that's entirely wrong, people calling you an idiot and explaining why you're wrong isn't considered threadshitting in PSP. If you don't like it, either post better or post elsewhere.
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The jump between middle and super middle seems to be a lot bigger than other weight classes for some reason. The likes of Ward and Froch seem like monsters compared to Quillin, Martinez, Cotto (obviously). It's a shame Froch only wants an easy cash out fight, GGG v Froch would be great.
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As much I hate Peter Quillin I really don't think he didn't fight Korobov to duck him but because Al Haymon made him drop the belt to screw over Roc Nation who had won that purse bid. And now given the ways "Premier Boxing Champions" and Roc Nations are headed in such opposite directions that doesn't even seem like such a bad business decision. EDIT: I mean I obviously don't think he'd fare any better than Martin Murray against Golovkin but he's still a top 5 guy in the division regardless. Maybe Andy Lee right hooks him into oblivion though. The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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Whoa where did you see that there might not even be a public sale? =(
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Surfing Turtle posted:Whoa where did you see that there might not even be a public sale? =( I haven't seen anything about it, however if there was ever a fight that could bring out rich people who have never seen a boxing match but would love to flaunt their status it would be this one.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Except he stopped de la Hoya (who's fought as high as 160), Hatton (at 147, obliterated him), and Cotto (who's a current middleweight), and since then has gone 9 fights without knocking out anyone, including Brandon Rios and Chris Algieri, two guys who came from smaller weights that he absolutely should have KOed. 9 fights in a row without a KO from a fighter who's now 36 years old = diminished power. Also moving up in weight classes and fight bigger guys by default means diminished power. Styles make fights. Oscar and Ricky engaged with Manny and paid the price. Cotto is a boxer-puncher who struggles under pressure and he was under constant pressure the entire night. Joshua Clottey fought to not get knocked out and never left his guard. Ditto Mosley a year later. Margarito should have been stopped and Pacquiao even broke his orbital bone. Marquez has never been stopped even considering he's been dropped a few times, ditto Bradley. Rios has never been stopped and I'm not sure he's been dropped either. Algieri survived by outright running at times. Regardless of whether or not Manny is putting guys out or not, he's still clearly powerful enough to disrupt and put fear into even the fighters who have survived against him. Welterweight is also, imo, a division with a higher skill ceiling than some of the lower weight classes due to the big spotlight on the division attracting good fighters to compete there.
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Awesome OP, and Kovalev gets my 2014 fighter of the year for calling Peterson a piece of poo poo after his fight when he found out he fled to Showtime.
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If Murray had power that would have been an amazing fight. The 5:45 start time was awesome because it let me watch it with my dad. 45 seconds into the fight he said Murray's punches looked slow and week and sure enough, they were. From the 4th round on, each time before the round started we were both like "there is no way the fight doesn't end this round." proven wrong 5 times in a row hah! Murray has a heart, that is for sure.
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Was all just drama show. He spend six round knock down him, six in drama show.
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Lionel Richie posted:Murray deserves serious cred, took his beating and didn't stay down like some plastic paddy big headed oval office MATTHEW MACKLIN \ | \| 
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The Ninth Layer posted:
He's not 2009 Manny, but he absolutely still packs a good punch. Freddy Roach will tell you that he's lost his killer instinct, and Manny definitely fights in a more measured style than he did during the de la Hoya-Hatton-Cotto run. His power will keep Floyd honest (a knockdown isn't out of the question), but I can't really imagine a KO from either guy here. It will be a boxing match, and barring something crazy, will go 12 full rounds. Which I think actually helps Manny. The first Jose Luis Castillo fight gave people the wrong idea of "the blueprint to beat Mayweather". Sure, Castillo had success roughing Floyd up in their first fight, but Floyd broke his hand early, he had just moved up in weight, and Castillo was in his prime, heavier than Floyd, and allowed to fight dirty as hell. In the rematch, Floyd mostly outclassed him. Meanwhile, people forget that Floyd struggled with a boxing focused Zab Judah in the first half of their fight (before adjusting, which Zab failed to), and struggled with de la Hoya as long as de la Hoya kept his jab going. Manny's smaller than Floyd, he can't physically overwhelm him. But he may be able to use his fast hands and more importantly his fast feet to score on Floyd. Manny still has fast feet, whereas Floyd's are quite stationary these days. The key will be the second half of the fight. Floyd always adjusts, takes away his opponent's strengths, and pulls away. Manny needs to be able to win some rounds between 7 and 12. Manny is so good that I can't really see Floyd just shutting him out over the final 18 minutes though. Cigar Aficionado fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=12376883 Matthysse - Provodnikov finally official for 4/18 at Turning Stone casino in upstate NY. I am at FULL attention. I dont want to get too optomisitc but this has got to be the best 3-4 month stretch for boxing in very long time. The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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Ooh that is going to be awesome.
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Still bummed they're putting that fight in New York instead of SoCal like they were talking about initially.
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Probably shoulda put that on the Floyd/Manny undercard.
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The Ninth Layer posted:Still bummed they're putting that fight in New York instead of SoCal like they were talking about initially. Its actually pretty funny that the event that moved it off of 3/28 because Haymon was squatting StubHub (Gonzalez - Russell jr, Jermall Charlo/ Martirosyan) is actually venueless atm. http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=87804 Gregor Samsa posted:Probably shoulda put that on the Floyd/Manny undercard. Yeah but imp maybe like a third a of the people who watch the fight will watch the undercard, still a lot though. Not gonna happen because Lucas is with Golden Boy (he left Al Haymon completely ) and Ruslan with Banner Promotions. Supposedly the undercard will be two fights. One Top Rank and one Money Team so not Golden Boy and maybe not even "Premier Boxing Championship". Early talk is loving J'leon Love against whoever cause Love sucks and was knocked out by a dude named Porky and Lomachenko / Simpewe Vetyetka for Top Rank.
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The SituAsian posted:Its actually pretty funny that the event that moved it off of 3/28 because Haymon was squatting StubHub (Gonzalez - Russell jr, Jermall Charlo/ Martirosyan) is actually venueless atm. Didn't know Lucas was one of the few people under contract at GB, and thought Ruslan was with Top Rank. Oops. Given that we got Lucas/Danny on the undercard of Mayweather/Canelo and this PPV is rumored to be $100, J'leon loving Love should not even be allowed in the arena.
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the real battle of the numero uno welterweights may be on.. http://www.boxingscene.com/khan-brook-negotiations-begun-says-hearn--87873
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I was all for Brook in that a few months ago, I'd probably go with Khan now though. Khan's past couple of wins are better on paper than in reality, but in the past you know he'd have found a way to gently caress them up. Maybe Hunter really is teaching him something. Brook meanwhile has managed to get himself possibly career-endingly stabbed.
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The SituAsian posted:http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=12376883 Maybe the best fight that can be made in boxing between elite guys. Mandatory viewing.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Maybe the best fight that can be made in boxing between elite guys. Mandatory viewing. Not sure if I'd call either elite (unless you're saying elite level brawlers, which would be the truest thing), but it should still be an excellent, evenly matched fight.
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Anyone else here playing this? http://www.rooqboxing.com/Default.aspx Quite a fun little browser game.
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Eubank Jr- Chudniov has been pretty hot.
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Yeah, it was a lot closer than the idiot commentators were making out, Eubank looks like he's gonna stop him now though.
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