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sticklefifer posted:You can resubscribe anytime you want, or watch it in a theater, or watch it at a friend's house, or watch it in a sports bar, and that's a silly amount of effort just because you don't like people not liking things. Or pay $70 instead of $120 and catch every PPV... 
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I got the main event spoiled for me in the Oscars thread and hahaha, holy poo poo, really, wow. Is the show worth watching besides the main event?
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CapnAndy posted:I got the main event spoiled for me in the Oscars thread and hahaha, holy poo poo, really, wow. Nothing on the show is worth watching besides the main event
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Feb 23, 2015 06:19
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Fat Lowtax posted:Nothing on the show is worth watching besides the main event Tag title match was p. good imo
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CapnAndy posted:I got the main event spoiled for me in the Oscars thread and hahaha, holy poo poo, really, wow. tag title match was disjointed but ultimately fine, us title match was good, main event was better
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Feb 23, 2015 06:23
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The tag title match was very good but I wish they would build that sort of thing up with more than third-rate WCW booking.
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Feb 23, 2015 06:23
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sticklefifer posted:I didn't like the show but some people are just being ridiculous about it. He was six miles away in a car. Well, across the ring
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Feb 23, 2015 06:27
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Just got home, read the spoilers on my phone. Is any of it worth watching? I read that Roman kicked out of The Knee That Beat John Cena for some reason.
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Feb 23, 2015 06:28
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AlmightyPants posted:Just got home, read the spoilers on my phone. Is any of it worth watching? I read that Roman kicked out of The Knee That Beat John Cena for some reason. Tag Title Match, Rusev/Cena, and Bryan/Reigns are all worth watching. Everything else is completely forgettable.
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Feb 23, 2015 06:29
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AlmightyPants posted:I read that Roman kicked out of The Knee That Beat John Cena for some reason. he kicked out of it because they want to get him over and book him strongly
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AlmightyPants posted:Just got home, read the spoilers on my phone. Is any of it worth watching? I read that Roman kicked out of The Knee That Beat John Cena for some reason. Yeah what Astro said. I feel like Bryan/Reigns is going to be a very interesting match to look back on a few years from now, when we see the full consequences of them going with Roman 100%. Actually, of all things, this could lead to an interesting Bryan heel turn. Reigns wins the match, Bryan comes down to raise his hand then beats him up, Cena-Knee's him, then celebrates with Rollins after he cashes in. Bryan's level is clearly above whatever other match they find for him on the show (Ziggler, Sheamus, etc.), and if nothing else more matches with Reigns and Bryan will be good and hopefully teach Reigns a lot about wrestling so he can improve. Bryan was pretty obviously working as the heel in the main event of Fastlane, though that rarely means much in the grand scheme of things. Roman would be a face that gets boo'd at WM, why not have a Heel that gets cheered? It's also a way to disguise massive boos for Reigns and massive cheers for Rollins, they can sell it as the crowd cheering for Bryan despite his actions and not cheering for Reigns losing the title. A big problem with Reigns is that no one wants him as the face when Bryan's around and better at everything involving the wrestling business except for lifting heavy things, and turning Bryan solves that too. On the con side, Bryan takes the usual huge hit in merch sales, Bryan is their #1 face right now with only Cena getting similar reactions, and it doesn't solve the core problem of Reigns being pushed beyond his perceived level, but it seems like it would at least be a body thrown on the grenade that is WWE's stupid booking. Oh well, still looking forward to a crowd hijacking WM, haven't seen that since the "18 seconds" match.
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CapnAndy posted:I got the main event spoiled for me in the Oscars thread and hahaha, holy poo poo, really, wow. Hey, man, I used spoiler tags. 
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CapnAndy posted:I got the main event spoiled for me in the Oscars thread and hahaha, holy poo poo, really, wow. AlmightyPants posted:Just got home, read the spoilers on my phone. Is any of it worth watching? I read that Roman kicked out of The Knee That Beat John Cena for some reason. no
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Feb 23, 2015 06:42
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bryan should shave his head and beard and go back to being evil tough as hell wrestler bryan
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Feb 23, 2015 06:47
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I watched the Rumble and wasn't planning on watching this show but because it came on the same time as the UFC show it was easy enough to turn both on and watch this while UFC was between fights. First 2/3s of the card were not very good, the Ambrose finish was just awful. The main event, I kinda felt like in the weeks leading up to this, the "rumors" of a 3 way were just false build to give people hope of Bryan being in the match. I figured that they threw this match together to give hope to people that wanted to see Bryan in the main event, but also because they needed Reigns to look as good as possible and since he was having poo poo matches with Rollins; this was the best way to do that. Reigns looked about as good as you'd hope given his skill level and abilities. I thought Bryan wrestled that match like he was the second coming of HBK though; he mirrored a lot of Shawn's old spots perfectly. Hell, they might have even watched some Shawn/Nash matches in order to get ideas for stuff to do. Good match though regardless of the outcome.
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coma posted:Pleath lowtackth! Th-top the people from pirating wrethling thtreamth! It's less about the pirating and a lot more about the chorus of "I am never watching again!" And "I am canceling my network" over and over again in every PPV thread, month after month. Seems like half the thread quits wrestling forever on a monthly basis. I see "I am canceling posts" as about as interesting to scroll through as if we all decided to post for each sign up and renewal. "Hey guys, signed up for another month today!" "My renewal processed last night, just thought I'd let everyone know!"
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Feb 23, 2015 06:53
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I don't think anyone's going to get something as neat as that foot catch into a slap into a roll into the Yes Lock out of Reigns anytime soon.
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Feb 23, 2015 07:06
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Been seeing a lot of people saying "if this was an episode of RAW then it'd be considered a great one' and I jut want to shout that I don't (or rather didn't) subscribe to the network to watch a PPV that is the same quality as a good RAW.
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Feb 23, 2015 07:12
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DeathChicken posted:I don't think anyone's going to get something as neat as that foot catch into a slap into a roll into the Yes Lock out of Reigns anytime soon. besides this I felt the elbow blows he delivered while pinning bryan down were pretty vicious looking (in spite of WWE's lovely action cam) but it was still really obvious that bryan was holding his hand the whole way. reigns would legitimately be a worthy champ if he'd had another couple of years (or less) to work on his independence but that wasn't good enough for vince I guess. highlight of the ppv is still the announcement for the men's fitness or whatever article starring vince though. e: Testekill posted:Been seeing a lot of people saying "if this was an episode of RAW then it'd be considered a great one' and I jut want to shout that I don't (or rather didn't) subscribe to the network to watch a PPV that is the same quality as a good RAW. what's the sample size for what's considered a good raw because I wouldn't really give it even that honor.
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Testekill posted:Been seeing a lot of people saying "if this was an episode of RAW then it'd be considered a great one' and I jut want to shout that I don't (or rather didn't) subscribe to the network to watch a PPV that is the same quality as a good RAW. This was very much a PPV like Battleground where the idea was to just keep building towards another, bigger show a month away. In other words, largely a waste of time.
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I mean I can take a bad PPV if it's amusingly bad. This was just such a boring three hours.
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Feb 23, 2015 07:17
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Testekill posted:I mean I can take a bad PPV if it's amusingly bad. This was just such a boring three hours. The fire alarm went off in my apartment during the PPV. That wasn't boring. I'd give the fire alarm ***
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DjHomeless posted:The fire alarm went off in my apartment during the PPV. That wasn't boring. I'd give the fire alarm *** gotta keep sprinkler system strong, brother
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STAC Goat posted:It was a bad show but I think people are just being over the top because: Honestly for me it's mostly because I'm spoiled by NXT, which is somehow run by the same company. It's like if Nickelback somehow had a really awesome side project where they worked with extremely talented indie artists.
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DjHomeless posted:The fire alarm went off in my apartment during the PPV. That wasn't boring. I'd give the fire alarm *** that was just Cesaro's music
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I liked: - The tag match, go Kiddsaro - The womens match until the finish - Rusev/Cena was a good match, it's amazing to me that this Rusev is the same as the guy in NXT, but I thoroughly enjoy his matches - Bray's troll promo Did not like: - Ambrose finish, dumb as hell - Women's match finish. You had powerbombs and a Bama Slamma, don't end it with a loving rollup - The buildup to IC title and Dust Brothers was ineffective, nobody really gave a poo poo - Kane and Show being anywhere near a PPV win, the moment Kane won was when the crowd just went WELP I don't hate Reigns winning clean. I hate that he kicked out of the Knees but whatever. If your plan was for Reigns to get this push, then give him the push. But don't be surprised when Lesnar is treated as the face and that massive bump Reigns was supposed to get from the Mania win ends up to be nothing. The biggest crime in all of this is that the loving white hot heat that Lesnar had for breaking the streak is going to be wasted.
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Feb 23, 2015 07:41
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I went in only caring about the Rusev match, I went out only satisfied with the Rusev match. So I guess I can't complain.
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I've been following wrestling for a month in that I've had RAW on in the background on Hulu Plus twice, listened to a few wrestling podcasts and followed SA's threads on it. Is the WWE like Saturday Night Live where every year is the worst year until 5-10 years later when suddenly those were "the good ole days" and NOW is when it REALLY SUCKS or is WWE actually bad right now?
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Feb 23, 2015 07:58
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Soul Glo posted:I've been following wrestling for a month in that I've had RAW on in the background on Hulu Plus twice, listened to a few wrestling podcasts and followed SA's threads on it. WWE is not the company it was 5 years ago. The final death rattle of kayfabe, the various wellness outrages, infighting from the fact that at it's core wrestling is run by a bunch of carnies, the show became child friendly. Even WWE begrudgingly admits this, there's a reason that 90% of the WWE Network is nostalgia shows about the Federation that was.
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Feb 23, 2015 08:04
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Soul Glo posted:I've been following wrestling for a month in that I've had RAW on in the background on Hulu Plus twice, listened to a few wrestling podcasts and followed SA's threads on it. The comparison isn't totally accurate for lots of reasons but if you are asking if lots of people are super hyperbolic about wwe and how bad it is than yes.
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Sex Robot posted:the show became child friendly. other than the side effect of cena consistently being made overly strong because he's so locked in with the kids, I'm not really sure this can be levied as a complaint. pre pg era gave us such gems as: divas being exclusively sexual objects above and beyond what they are today, rape angles, weirdos getting hardons because by god that man intentionally shoved a razor into his flesh boy howdy what a match what a match and I guess they have to say fanny instead of rear end or whatever but really big woop.
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A Lamer posted:other than the side effect of cena consistently being made overly strong because he's so locked in with the kids, I'm not really sure this can be levied as a complaint. pre pg era gave us such gems as: divas being exclusively sexual objects above and beyond what they are today, rape angles, weirdos getting hardons because by god that man intentionally shoved a razor into his flesh boy howdy what a match what a match I think that's the thing, the diva's still are treated as sex objects (Paige showed up last raw wearing only a towel), people are still bleeding. The only difference now is people don't even say drat and they have promo's with grumpy cat.
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Just seems weird from an relatively outsider perspective: I followed wrestling as a kid into the Attitude Era a bit and have paid relatively little attention to it over the years. There seems to be a constant deluge of criticism coming at WWE while also holding it as the standard against stuff like Ring of Honor and New Japan (I've been listening to the Power Bombcast  )Also it seems that the fourth wall has been torn down as far as story (KAYFABE and whatnot) is concerned in service of appeasing fans; WWE seems to be trying to react as quickly as possible to general criticism. HHH goes on Stone Cold's podcast and actually recognizes concerns, they actually put their golden boy against the fan-favorite at Fastlane to try to legitimize his claim to the title, Bray is going after Undertaker, etc. I guess the hardcore crowd just isn't satisfied/offended by pandering? 
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Eltoasto posted:The biggest crime in all of this is that the loving white hot heat that Lesnar had for breaking the streak is going to be wasted. But it will magically transfer the Streak heat to Reigns by proxy and then everyone will love him because that's how it works! 
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Soul Glo posted:Is the WWE like Saturday Night Live where every year is the worst year until 5-10 years later when suddenly those were "the good ole days" and NOW is when it REALLY SUCKS or is WWE actually bad right now? half and half -- people frequently have nostalgia for things that really weren't that good at the time (see: attitude era), but there's also lots of legit complains to be levied about a lot of things in WWE and there's a bunch of other places with better wrestling and better writing to compare it to (including the loving developmental division of WWE). You'll also get a lot of the standard 'I was in a thread/room/etc with a large group of people who all thought X about it and as such we all thought X even more intensely than we would in a vaccuum' sort of pseudo-groupthink right after a show/PPV, so things might end up being a lot more intense than warranted
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Oh my god, I remember when there were stories of Vince wanting Roman to end the streak, I guess by proxy that's what he's doing.
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Soul Glo posted:Just seems weird from an relatively outsider perspective: I followed wrestling as a kid into the Attitude Era a bit and have paid relatively little attention to it over the years. There seems to be a constant deluge of criticism coming at WWE while also holding it as the standard against stuff like Ring of Honor and New Japan (I've been listening to the Power Bombcast Focus on storylines, character, and having good matches and both hardcore and casual fans will be satisfied. WWE has all the tools it needs to be a media juggernaut, it's just run by schmucks.
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Sex Robot posted:I think that's the thing, the diva's still are treated as sex objects (Paige showed up last raw wearing only a towel), people are still bleeding. The only difference now is people don't even say drat and they have promo's with grumpy cat. divas are still in really bad shape (and will be as long as being a good looking, bitchy drama queen is a more important trait than being able to wrestle) but the paige locker room angle where her clothes got stolen and she had to improvise isn't really on the same level as trish stratus half naked and made to bark in the ring or the implied in ring sex between lita and edge. people bleed because some people can't wrestle and it's still a very physical performance despite all of the fakery and safety precautions, rather than throwing each other onto thumb tacks or intentionally raking razors across their foreheads, or otherwise beating each other half to death until they're so mentally bruised that they commit murder suicides.
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