Gentrification: What is it, what isn't it, what should be done about it?

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Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Nintendo Kid posted:

Since when does being near matter when there's robust transit?

Because long commutes suck?

# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 23:45

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 18:32

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Nintendo Kid posted:

What does that have to do with good public transit? I understand you're probably from some lovely place where being on the transit line means taking 2 hours from your sprawl-hell but that's not how it works in cities with good transit.

Good public transport still does not have the capability of warping space and time.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2015 00:03

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Nintendo Kid posted:

Not really, many gentrifying neighborhoods aren't particularly near people's existing jobs, they're just nicer to live in or fashionable. Now, after a bit of gentrification going on they tend to BECOME places where there is local work that people continue to arrive for, but that's not why people started showing up.

The main drive for gentrification here was industry scaling up and moving out of the older inner-city suburbs. The working class jobs moved outwards (or disappeared) at the same time as the CBD became a bigger source of employment. Employment concerns weren't the only factor (the increasing prevalence of cars, the post-war migration boom played their parts too) but it was the biggest.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2015 00:54

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

PT6A posted:

Interpreting it in the most bizarre way possible just to start an argument doesn't seem to make much sense.

Well it's Fishmech, so...

# ¿ Feb 25, 2015 02:37

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Nintendo Kid posted:

This is how the word works in most of the world, Australia and maybe New Zealand are unique in having teeny-tiny city propers and then a whole bunch of effectively neighborhoods that are sort of in the same government.

It varies here. Brisbane has basically the entire metro area under the one city council while Sydney's divided up into dozens (although there have been pushes for amalgamations). I live < 10km from the CBD and I'm not even adjacent to the City of Sydney Local Government Area.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2015 04:14

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