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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


The simplest answer is that there are no inherent rights. Every right that we have has been fought for and maintained by force of arms or politics.

The funny thing is that many actors responsible for first securing the rights we have today did believe that humans had inherent rights and were fighting to create or return some sort of Platonic order, and things like, say emancipation or the declaration of the rights of women were motivated by people believing in inalienable rights.

Even though I can't see any proof of inherent rights it's probably not a good idea to question the concept too deeply, since widespread belief that a right (ie to life) is inherent may be real loving important for its maintenance. :anime:

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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


blowfish posted:

no they don't

the absence of inherent rights doesn't mean you should go kill people, hth

Exactly. Rights are good but they only exist because people believe in them. A lot like santa but instead of presents you get to not quarter soldiers in your house

Grand Prize Winner fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Feb 25, 2015

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


rudatron posted:

I believe all life has value, and I'll kill anyone who says otherwise.

the belief in an inherent right to life leads to that right's defense

what'd i say

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