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How do you know that there aren't objective, universal rights and moral truths? Just because we can't observe them with our four senses doesn't mean they aren't real and we can't observe them with our moral sense. Humans have the ability to know moral truths
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:I agree you have a negative right to not be killed, but not a positive right to be protected by police while alive or to have your murderer investigated or prosecuted or convicted or jailed if you are killed. There's a question of degree: how much obligation can a right impose on another person? If you have the right to bear arms, that does not mean that someone has to give you a gun, only that they cannot take it. If you had a positive right to be protected by police, how protected should you be and how much time and money are the rest of us meant to spend to provide you that right?. That's the problem with positive rights and why they don't exist. A negative right doesn't force anyone else to do anything, just tells them not to go out of their way to take your life. A true right cannot impose obligations.
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Feb 27, 2015 17:18
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Why shouldn't you believe rights are arbitrary if they're just what people want at a given moment?
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Feb 27, 2015 19:39
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:If you have a "negative right" not to be killed but there are no corresponding "positive rights" enforcing it, it's meaningless. It's not meaningless; the Right to Life exists even if people don't acknowledge it or abide by it. Would you agree with Nazis when they said that Jehova's Witnesses didn't have a right to life? There was nobody to protect it.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:39
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Way to miss the point. TwoQuestions isn't saying that he wouldn't swerve, it's a thought experiment designed to show that a strict adherence to negative rights and negative rights only produces "immoral" results. The driver isn't killing the man, because the car is self-driving, he just isn't taking POSITIVE action to not kill the man. Under a strict Negative Rights regime, that would be OK. And that isn't a result many people like
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Infinite Karma posted:Securing yourself is a pretty universally justified case for violence. Not for Gandhi or Jesus it's not.
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