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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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wateroverfire posted:

The ethical rule that arise from people having for instance a right not to be killed would be something like "Can I reasonably assume doing X is going to kill someone? In that case don't do X." or "Can I reasonably assume by doing X I can prevent someone from being killed by something else I am contemplating doing? If so then do X.". The ethical rule arising from a right ot life is going to be different - something like "Can I reasonably assume that by doing X I can preserve someone's life whether or not I am the source of danger to them in the first place? In that case do X."

Now I'm not saying it isn't praiseworthy to do what you can to preserve life whether or not you're threatening it in the first place. But as an obligation that is pretty open ended while the "Don't kill people" obligation is not. That's the practical distinction between positive and negative rights. Splitting hairs about whether with awkward phrasing we can turn an obligation to not murder someone into an obligation to act not to murder someone is the ivory tower bullshit. IMO, anyway.

Actually your claim that the "negative" right to life is "don't kill people" is wrong. since you're contrasting it with a far more expansive definition of what a right to life constitutes on the "positive" side. A more honest formulation of the "negative" right to life would be "don't hinder any action that I take in order to preserve my life", which is pretty much just as open-ended as you claim the "positive" right to life to be. Either that or you need to apply the narrow definition on the "positive" claim as well, such as "I have a duty to only take actions that would result in X living".

This also shows that the negative/positive divide still is a matter of semantics once you actually talk about the same thing.

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