Do people have an inherent right to live?

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Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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TwoQuestions posted:

And if so, why? What policies and costs are justified to keep people alive (housed, fed, free from pollution)?

If not, what laws are justified? Do we , as another poster put it: "live in a barbaric anarchy where the strong do what they will and the weak do what they must"?

I've been grappling with this for years trying to justify why we take from some to provide for others, and aside from religious arguments I can't find a good reason why people have an inviolable right to live. What's it to you that someone else gets hurt?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy

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Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Effectronica posted:

There are no inherent rights, because rights are completely a result of social contexts, of people agreeing that they will take certain actions and refrain from others. An actually inherent right would be a physical law of some kind.

Perfect, my sociopathy is completely justified by nature! *pees on a homeless person*

# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 21:34

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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wateroverfire posted:

Meh?

So since you've outed yourself as a supporter of eugenics what makes you think that you have good DNA that someone won't decide needs to be cleared from the gene pool?

# ¿ Mar 2, 2015 19:33

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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wateroverfire posted:

Someone dying by falling into a pool with no assistance whatsoever - eugenics.

I haven't fallen in a pool and died so idk I guess that makes me some kind of superman.

You responded to a question about whose responsibility it was if a toddler drowns in an unprotected pool by linking to the Darwin Awards, carrying the implication that the toddler drowned because it had bad genes and therefore its a good thing it died.

This makes you look like a psychopath.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2015 19:59

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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TwoQuestions posted:

This question probably requires better phrasing, perhaps something like "Why should people care if other people get hurt?"

Because most human beings aren't robots and are capable of compassion.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2015 23:43

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