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Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

wateroverfire posted:

Dunno. Is there literally no benefit to helping out that other community other than the feels?

Absolutely. It's so they don't take what you have by force. When people have enough, they don't (barring mental stability issues) typically commit violent crimes. It's in your best interest to see to it that your neighbors have enough food, education and shelter.

Not to mention the old canard of "There but for the grace of God". You are not a special snowflake, no matter what you tell yourself. You may feel invincible, but any number of circumstances could come to pass that would bring you low. In a society that protects the least among us, you can rest easier, knowing that they will catch you if you fall. Which will make getting back up that much easier.

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Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Dead Reckoning posted:

So the only moral theft is the one I agree with, and might makes right when I think it does? I'm a little disturbed how quickly you shifted gears from saying that helping others is a moral duty to, "do it or we'll loving kill you and take your stuff" (which has the added problem of being a threat that most poor and starving people can't actually back up.)

My answer was to the question of "is there a reason I should help other than "The Feels"?". By which I think he means the entire concept of morality. I didn't declare theft moral, I simply stated the reasoning behind not wanting your neighbors to be poor and destitute. History bears out that people will in fact, kill you and take your stuff if they're hungry and angry enough. Which brings about bad times (as you mentioned, the Reign of Terror). Thus, it's in your interest to not be a selfish gently caress, and make sure that the people around you have enough too.

The Golden Rule and compassion aren't difficult things to comprehend, and it's astonishing that some folks need to hash out some sort of ethical framework and ruleset to even consider them.

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