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computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

triple sulk posted:

i have lag ityool 2015 in ff14 because east coasters on comcast and twc or any level3 backbone isp got hosed for some reason

it's because final fantasy is a bad game

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

triple sulk posted:

i have lag ityool 2015 in ff14 because east coasters on comcast and twc or any level3 backbone isp got hosed for some reason

http://battleping.com/

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014




I've used wtfast already and it's mostly helped fix it but lol that I have to pay for a service like this to fix a stream of like 3kb/second of data in 20-loving-15

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



computer parts posted:

it's because final fantasy is a bad game

actually ff14 owns and has triple triad and chocokart

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

triple sulk posted:

actually ff14 owns and has triple triad and chocokart

trap sprung

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Shaggar posted:

lol net neuts cant accept reality

net neut reality

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
is this the real net
is this neutraility

madeupfred
Oct 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
My grandparents are paying like $20 a month for 56k and they live less than 10 miles from a town of 100,000, how will Title II affect them?

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



madeupfred posted:

My grandparents are paying like $20 a month for 56k and they live less than 10 miles from a town of 100,000, how will Title II affect them?

caliphate obama will simply place them in one of his many death camps strategically placed around the former us of a

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

shags itt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

anyway nationalised internet was great when i was growing up in communist ireland, it's more than good enough for the us imo

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Forums Terrorist posted:

anyway nationalised internet was great when i was growing up in communist ireland, it's more than good enough for the us imo

yeah, i mean apple is headquartered in ireland so they must be doing something right with internet

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

madeupfred posted:

My grandparents are paying like $20 a month for 56k and they live less than 10 miles from a town of 100,000, how will Title II affect them?

it won't. but if they already pay for unlimited long distance they could get 56k for free by dialing norcharge.com's access numbers in seattle

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


will this reduce the incentive for ISPs to play tricks with DNS and shove all YouTube/Netflix through a single datacenter causing it to poo poo itself constantly because of that link being saturated? or is this a case of not confusing laziness with malice?

it is stupid how much a difference switching from at&t's DNS to opendns made for YouTube performance.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Shifty Pony posted:

will this reduce the incentive for ISPs to play tricks with DNS and shove all YouTube/Netflix through a single datacenter causing it to poo poo itself constantly because of that link being saturated? or is this a case of not confusing laziness with malice?

it is stupid how much a difference switching from at&t's DNS to opendns made for YouTube performance.

when you do that you're switching from local isp caches (which are usually paid for) that may be overloaded at times to pulling through network links but usually being able to avoid other congestion. it'd all fall over if everyone did that though.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Nintendo Kid posted:

it won't. but if they already pay for unlimited long distance they could get 56k for free by dialing norcharge.com's access numbers in seattle

You mean free dialup. You aren't going to connect at max rate over long distance pots. It's not possible.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

SYSV Fanfic posted:

You mean free dialup. You aren't going to connect at max rate over long distance pots. It's not possible.

i get 51 kilobit from virginia to seattle. they're not going to miss the extra 2 kilobits

beats paying real money for dialup imo

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Nintendo Kid posted:

i get 51 kilobit from virginia to seattle. they're not going to miss the extra 2 kilobits

beats paying real money for dialup imo

You probably have the absolute best case scenario then, and it still isn't 56k. Out in bumfuckistan their CO might still be doing TDM over copper wire to the nearest fiber link for voice data.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

SYSV Fanfic posted:

You probably have the absolute best case scenario then, and it still isn't 56k. Out in bumfuckistan their CO might still be doing TDM over copper wire to the nearest fiber link for voice data.

nothing is 56k dude, due to fcc regs the maximum downlink is 53.3k down and of course 33.6 k up if you don't start taking away from downlink.

just have them give it a try (again only if they have unlimited long distance) and see how it works for them. no sense paying $20 a month for dialup if it'll work.

i mean i've only ever used the service in nj and va, and in both cases it was on phone lines that performed terribly (like the line here can't sync dsl above 384 kilobit down and struggles to stay stable with that, hence why we got cable to replace it)

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Feb 28, 2015

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Nintendo Kid posted:

nothing is 56k dude, due to fcc regs the maximum downlink is 53.3k down and of course 33.6 k up if you don't start taking away from downlink.

just have them give it a try (again only if they have unlimited long distance) and see how it works for them. no sense paying $20 a month for dialup if it'll work.

Relax. I was being pedantic in the POS. If they even get a 44 connection now, I'd bet they would see 33 at best over long distance. 10 miles outside of a town of 100,000 is nowhere. Rural telcos are generally poo poo because there is no money to be made.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Relax. I was being pedantic in the POS. If they even get a 44 connection now, I'd bet they would see 33 at best over long distance. 10 miles outside of a town of 100,000 is nowhere. Rural telcos are generally poo poo because there is no money to be made.

no, if they can get a decent connection to their current dialup isp now they should barely see any reduction going further out. even backend of nowhere places have digital links from the central office outward these days.

where do they live anyway?

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
Speaking of net pootrality, isn't rural phone service being poo poo an unintended consequence of the AT&T breakup?

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
There are COs in my state that you can still hear the click clack of analog switching in.

Nintendo Kid posted:

i mean i've only ever used the service in nj and va, and in both cases it was on phone lines that performed terribly (like the line here can't sync dsl above 384 kilobit down and struggles to stay stable with that, hence why we got cable to replace it)

You realize DSL can perform terribly for something as fickle as your house being connected to an old paper insulated cable with a gauge that reduces the distance you can be from the CO. Won't affect an analog modem at all.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Speaking of net pootrality, isn't rural phone service being poo poo an unintended consequence of the AT&T breakup?

oh yeah totally. originally part of the deal allowing AT&T to maintain a stranglehold over like 95% of the country was they had to provide equally good service all over where possible.

post breakup, the baby bells were free to sell off, particularly rural, areas that they ddin't think were profitable enough to whoever would take it. at this point entire states have been sold off, like how verizon sold nearly all of West Virgnia to frontier, noted poo poo-tier isp and phone provider.

some areas were lucky to have their local phone service sold off to a co-op or similar that actually cared about maintaining service, others were the original at&t subsidiary being spun off wholesale and left to run itself.

SYSV Fanfic posted:

There are COs in my state that you can still hear the click clack of analog switching in.


You realize DSL can perform terribly for something as fickle as your house being connected to an old paper insulated cable with a gauge that reduces the distance you can be from the CO. Won't affect an analog modem at all.

yes but when your dsl is cycling down to 384 kilobit you know the line is hosed. that's not just a minor issue with the line.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Nintendo Kid posted:

nothing is 56k dude, due to fcc regs the maximum downlink is 53.3k down and of course 33.6 k up if you don't start taking away from downlink.

just have them give it a try (again only if they have unlimited long distance) and see how it works for them. no sense paying $20 a month for dialup if it'll work.

i mean i've only ever used the service in nj and va, and in both cases it was on phone lines that performed terribly (like the line here can't sync dsl above 384 kilobit down and struggles to stay stable with that, hence why we got cable to replace it)

fishmech did you go to high school in nj and if so did you do forensics

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
I'm familiar with nowhere USA. I just started boiling my greens and finished putting my made from scratch cornbread into the cast iron skillet. Pinto Beans (cooked with bacon grease) are just about thick enough.

I've got the cuisine of southern poverty down pat.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

SYSV Fanfic posted:

made from scratch cornbread
that's not "the cuisine of southern poverty", it's haute freakuing cuisine

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Beeftweeter posted:

fishmech did you go to high school in nj and if so did you do forensics

of course i went to high school there. don't know of any high school that did forensics tho

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Nintendo Kid posted:

of course i went to high school there. don't know of any high school that did forensics tho

oh bleh i thought i might have had a fishmech sighting in freehold like 10 years ago. there was a goony looking dude wearing a city name sports team shirt

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
This is considered a midway at a town festival I attended:

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
in an alternate universe, USPS throttled Kwikster delivery. Instead of being driven to action, people still just made fun of the name Kwikster.

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

hahhhahahahhahahaha

http://variety.com/2015/digital/news/netflix-now-says-it-didnt-actually-want-fcc-to-regulate-broadband-so-heavily-1201446282/

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/3/8142899/netflix-net-neutrality-flipfl

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
the difference between then and now is someone sat the Netflix bigwigs down and explained the internet to them.

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

nut neutrality (lol!!!!)

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
Netflix announced a special deal with Australian ISP iiNet to exempt its traffic from broadband data caps

https://gigaom.com/2015/03/02/netflix-wont-count-against-iinet-broadband-caps-in-australia/

lol





EDIT:

Are people really dissatisfied with the internet and the convenience and innovation is has brought to all our lives? The internet’s evolution over the past 20-30 years has been nothing short of miraculous and it was all accomplished through the free market system. And now NN proponents decide its time to have the government step and and "fix" things. Really? Creating a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist.

Never mind that that the ISP’s have stated they have no interest in creating fast and slow lanes, lets assume they would. Fast lanes have been falsely characterized as a way to hurt the small business person or blogger in favor of large companies by slowing their content delivery. Does it not make sense to prioritize Netflix so when you want to watch a movie uninterrupted you can? And aren’t there sources of internet traffic where it wouldn’t matter if they were delayed for one second, like email or websites that use very little bandwidth? The difference in those cases would be imperceptible. In fact, the majority of delays you get from websites is not from your ISP but rather from domain hosting services. Those occasions when you sit there waiting for a site to load are more likely from Godaddy than from anything your ISP is doing. And maybe some NN advocates were concerned ISP’s might outright block some content, but show me where this has happened.

And if you wanted a free and open internet you went about it the wrong way. You just gave the FCC the right to regulate it and its content. And while Tom Wheeler promises to use a light hand, he won’t be in that position for long. Future politicians are sure to step in and regulate more. If you doubt that just look at the restrictions we have on television. And ask the guys on AM radio about the Fairness Doctrine.

But not to worry, the government will protect us and in the process tax us more. Now we will all have an extra $84 a year in taxes to pay according to a study by the Progressive Policy Institute. Thanks guys!

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Mar 5, 2015

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Cardboard Box A posted:

Netflix announced a special deal with Australian ISP iiNet to exempt its traffic from broadband data caps

https://gigaom.com/2015/03/02/netflix-wont-count-against-iinet-broadband-caps-in-australia/

lol





EDIT:

Are people really dissatisfied with the internet and the convenience and innovation is has brought to all our lives? The internet’s evolution over the past 20-30 years has been nothing short of miraculous and it was all accomplished through the free market system. And now NN proponents decide its time to have the government step and and "fix" things. Really? Creating a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist.

Never mind that that the ISP’s have stated they have no interest in creating fast and slow lanes, lets assume they would. Fast lanes have been falsely characterized as a way to hurt the small business person or blogger in favor of large companies by slowing their content delivery. Does it not make sense to prioritize Netflix so when you want to watch a movie uninterrupted you can? And aren’t there sources of internet traffic where it wouldn’t matter if they were delayed for one second, like email or websites that use very little bandwidth? The difference in those cases would be imperceptible. In fact, the majority of delays you get from websites is not from your ISP but rather from domain hosting services. Those occasions when you sit there waiting for a site to load are more likely from Godaddy than from anything your ISP is doing. And maybe some NN advocates were concerned ISP’s might outright block some content, but show me where this has happened.

And if you wanted a free and open internet you went about it the wrong way. You just gave the FCC the right to regulate it and its content. And while Tom Wheeler promises to use a light hand, he won’t be in that position for long. Future politicians are sure to step in and regulate more. If you doubt that just look at the restrictions we have on television. And ask the guys on AM radio about the Fairness Doctrine.

But not to worry, the government will protect us and in the process tax us more. Now we will all have an extra $84 a year in taxes to pay according to a study by the Progressive Policy Institute. Thanks guys!


:qq:

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib

Shaggar posted:

the difference between then and now is someone sat the Netflix bigwigs down and explained the internet to them.

the bigger difference is their lobbyists in Australia weren't able to change the law

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

wyoak posted:

the bigger difference is their lobbyists in Australia weren't able to change the law

what law is there to change in australia?
australians have had weird no cap agreements for decades, because they're chronically short of off-continent bandwidth

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
full text is out: http://www.scribd.com/doc/258494535/FCC-net-neutrality-order :ocelot:

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

cant wait for "journalists" to go through this and say "omg this is the end becaauuseee"

*really just c/p from AP*

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Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
so far it seems like all the doomsdayers are quietly ignoring it because surprise: there actually aren't any surprises in it that secretly grant primae noctis to obama or w/e

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