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Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Anidav posted:

If Pyne and Bolt had a baby:


More like a cross between Brendan Cowell and Don Corleone

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Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

I think we all agree that Jackie Lambie is stupid and a woman, but not both

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Graic Gabtar posted:

Fruity had a long holiday.

Must have been a good reason.

Just putting it out there, I'm drunk and dangerously overtired.

hope you don't say something you might regret later

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

The last 24 hours I've been thinking about reading that Sheridan article again, like a good book you never want to really end

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Murodese posted:

Tony Abbott: A Bromance for the Ages?

Is it a bromance? Can you even give the unshakeable unrequited love Sheridan has for Tony Abbott a flippant, hollow description like "bromance"? The article is beyond lust and well past the OH&S guidelines on masturbatory safety. An objective mind might suggest it takes a step back from the psychedelic sexual fantasy of wanting to be a Joint Strike Fighter and more comfortably to the realm of practical biological human copulation, but an objective mind might also suggest a legal order be made preventing Greg Sheridan from being within 50 metres of the Prime Minister at all times.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

This thread is a microcosm of Tony Abbott's career, rip

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

I wonder if the Liberal party is still running the machine that churns out smarmy little smug tubby yuppies like Frydenberg and Jamie Briggs after their original prototype model Joe Hockey failed so catastrophically during mid-cycle deployment

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

I think it's a pretty good direction personally. The Libs put an unpopular and unfair budget to a senate that resoundingly rejected it and they've spent the entire time since wringing their hands and shrugging, as if the "economic situation they were elected to fix" is no longer their problem. Labor throws up a policy popular with mostly everyone, punishing multinational tax evasion, and the government is left with the choice of either passing it and giving the appearance that they're unable to devise their own policy, or rejecting it and reinforcing the growing realisation amongst voters that the budget is pushing an agenda and not built upon the desperate necessity they originally alleged.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

The policy is definitely supposed to recoup/earn/raise/tax the $1.9bn to the benefit of the government. Like Birdstrike said, that is a large number to the public, but it also probably isn't a number that will provoke a knee-jerk defensive reaction from said multinationals like say, the MRRT did. Google and Apple et al have basically come out and said they have been operating within the law as if they have a leisurely attitude to this whole thing, so in the interests of public image you probably won't see Larry Page rattling his jewellery on the back of a ute in protest.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Tokamak posted:

Q&A is like Question Time that only consist of Dorothy Dixers and self congratulating political commentators.

Yeah I sure wouldn't want to participate in any discussion or forum like that

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Somehow I don't feel the Daily Telegraph can convincingly argue we need data retention to catch paedophiles when they apparently drive around in vans marked "peddo"

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Lid posted:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...medium=Facebook

“I know brickies who live in $7 million homes,” he said.

I wonder if the Australian Brick & Bricklayer Training Foundation might benefit somehow if more people decide to become bricklayers

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Mithranderp posted:

There was recently a case where a young indigenous man spent the weekend in jail, and afterwards, nobody could work out why.

Here's the obvious, succinct and comprehensive answer: because he was indigenous

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Objectively speaking Rudd was a remarkably progressive PM for Australia in 2007, despite attempts to censor the entire internet and his stand on gay marriage. General consensus in 2010 was that Julia Gillard would be even more progressive and you can thank the ALP for ensuring that that was most definitely not the case.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Pyne is using the same strategy Morrison used, except, where Morrison is an expert and well-practiced bully, Pyne is a spineless nobody with the authority of a wet fart

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Muir's maiden speech to parliament was even better than Julia Gillard's maiden speech, from what I've read. Really hope he can live up to the big talk in the same way Gillard did.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

thatfatkid posted:

So you want Muir to be a neo-liberal shill with no principles?

I'm just happy Auspol has fallen in love with a folksy straight-talker and are happy to put aside the small matter of him passing Morrison's Migration Act amendment

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

You Am I posted:

Muir got hosed over by that, don't even try to compare him to a Labor Senator who would rubber stamp stuff like that.

Yeah absolutely and that's a tremendous glowing recommendation for him as a parliamentarian. He's completely incompetent and totally unreliable but boy does he spin a great yarn about his dad who did it real hard back when we lived in shoeboxes in the middle of the street.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Tirade posted:

I like Ricky for the same reasons that I liked Tony Windsor - in an ocean of 24-hour bullshit and talking points they're an island of plain speaking and it's clear that although he's not yet too politically savvy (hence getting hosed over in the Migration Act negotiations), he's a good person and is trying to do what he thinks is right. He's lived the working class life and seems genuinely committed to actually representing their interests, which puts him leagues ahead of the Senators from the majors.

Also he did this bit talking about the challenges of youth unemployment which is pretty honest as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaDztSM_89A

Isn't this just a love letter to the personality politics that has defaced Australian government over the last few decades? Who cares if he's a good person or whatever when he has already done more harm than he possibly could do good? Why does this thread readily (and correctly) permanently condemn politicians for mistakes and decisions and go misty-eyed over this loving idiot?

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009


Really can't find an analogy more appropriate for this kind of unflinching uniform partisan cronyism than literal Stalinism, which is hilarious. Excited for the next level when appointees are sent to Gina's internment camps after their terms expire.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Les Affaires posted:

Anyway let's not discuss class and its origins, it is a futile discussion.

-- the bourgeoise

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

All glory to Auspolzka

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

What a shame everyone in Australia isn't privileged enough to be able to vote 1 Andrew Wilkie and preference the Greens

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Les Affaires posted:

I do wonder specifically what arguments somebody could bring against that sort of top-down leadership approach.

Enforcing quotas means inefficient outcomes, which in the medical profession will cost lives. Would you rather an arbitrary "politically correct" response, or a situation where literally lives aren't in danger due to incompetence? Maybe if you take a step back from your social justice warrior vantage point, you'd realise specialisations are filled by merit, which leads to the best candidates filling the best possible roles, which is of utmost importance in this case where literal lives are potentially at risk.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

SadisTech posted:

I'm certain that everybody realises that cpaf was being ironic, right? I mean no-one would be responding as though that was a literally intended post because it was so blatantly obvious that to not pick up on it you'd have to be mentally subnormal for real, right?

I didn't ask for these powers

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Jonah Galtberg posted:

competency at extorting/being extorted into giving sexual favours perhaps


EvilElmo posted:

If you think surgical training positions are all given on merit, you're wrong.


Quantum Mechanic posted:

When are people going to learn that cpaf reposts Terrorgraph and Oz comments sections

lmao

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Jonah are you tied into some sort of SMS alert system that warns you when people make incorrect posts in this thread

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Can't wait for the ISIS death cult caliphate to legalise gay marriage before Australia does

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Amoeba102 posted:

If you don't want to make them a non-psychopath, you can point to the ways that certain things are economically a bad idea. Like offshore processing is needlessly expensive compared to onshore or community processing, while not acting as a deterrent.

This argument is ineffective as any economic rationality pales in comparison to the imagined opening-of-the-floodgates, slippery slope, burgeoning influx of The Brown Menace that inevitably follows from lax border protection and immigration policy. Any facts or statistics melt away in the face of Real Australians losing Real Jobs to Real Foreigners. Really though I think the asylum seeker / immigration issue has always and will always boil down to simple racism, and racism has always been impossible to eradicate. The world was shocked and outraged into an international rejection of it after WW2 but that lesson is fading with time, just like all lessons from history.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Amoeba102 posted:

Well the least it gets is that they admit their racism. If they push the jobs angle, then it becomes broader about immigration and you move on to what hiddenmovement is on about, but more tactfully. Like how boat arrivals pale in comparison to plane arrivals, for legal and illegal immigrants (ie not talking about refugees here), so why is the mountain being sidelined for the mole hill.

I think you're way too optimistic about receiving a rational response to a rational argument from someone who has created an irrational emotional argument on the foundation of racist beliefs.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Anidav posted:

100 people per toilet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAKQzZfpaz8

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Murodese posted:

I'm guessing not well considering when I was working in Belgium, the first thing a colleague said to me when I said I was from Australia was "oh right, the place that tortures refugees".

really wish that was stdh.txt, too

Pretty scathing criticism from a country that banned the Burqa

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

norp posted:

This

Not once did he answer a question or even address a point made by anyone in a reasoned way.
Since it's a troll account I'm betting its one of the regulars from here having fun making you all poo poo the bed

Dunno why people keep insisting he is some sort of fabricated gimmick account when he represents a very real and sizeable chunk of the Australian voting population as MCED said.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009


Very sorry front left Goon I am sure you are a very beautiful person and poster but in the spirit of WAYWT those glasses make you look like George Christiensen

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Kommando posted:

Paging CraziTolradi. Also pictured, Anidav, Shadeoses, Bifauxnen, Urcher, and less frequent posters.

I am so, so sorry CraziTolradi

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Les Affaires posted:

My main point is that while you can't blame businesses for trying to make a profit and compete at the same time

You can blame them for their attitudes towards profit and competition though, which have been myopic in recent history. The idea that you should treat your employees well in order to foster long term productivity and loyalty has only recently been abandoned, or the idea that you pay them a good wage so they in turn feel more comfortable with putting that money back into the economy, or the idea that you pursue a long-term sustainable business model rather than one that maximises short-term profit at the cost of stability. The rejection of these concepts don't come from sense or reason but the lust for growth at any cost in order to satisfy shareholders. Death to financial capitalism and neoliberal economics.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Hope there is a royal commission into Christopher Pyne's own personal responsibility for these dodgy tertiary education schemes

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

If I watched Sunrise every morning I'd also be comfortable with death

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Pretty sure the requirements of cleanliness and hygiene disqualifies this thread from homebrewing

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Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Frogmanv2 posted:

It's really not that difficult to keep a fermenter clean enough brew in.

Oh wait you were making a joke haha goons are fat and lazy and smell funny. So funny. So original.

I'm guessing you drink all your homebrew yourself

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