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AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.


Sound! Euphonium (響け!ユーフォニアム Hibike! Euphonium) is an anime based on a manga based on a novel or something. It features 4 characters in an afternoon school club animated by Kyoto Animati-blah blah irrelevant let's get down to business.


Major Characters:

Euphonium

Pitch: Bb
Valves: 3 top/1 side Piston
Model: Yamaha YEP-621

Played by: Kumiko Oumae
The Euphonium is a mid-register brass family valved instrument. Tubing gradually increases in diameter throughout its length, resulting in a softer, gentler tone compared to cylindrical-bore instruments such as the trumpet, trombone and baritone horn (more on this later). However this conical-bore makes intonation, response, and range more difficult to learn and control compared to the other Bb harmonic series horns with equivalent fingerings: trumpet and tuba.

The YEP-621 is a discontinued model, but that doesn't mean she isn't any good! Updated models opt for spit valves on the 1st and 3rd slides for convenience over the essentially insignificant tonal quality improvement of smooth tubing. Also the main tuning slide spit valve is redesigned and reversed to help avoid spit condensation from dripping down the valve and onto the user's hands.

SPECIAL NOTE: The euphonium absolutely hates, hates, HATES being called or confused with the Baritone horn. Please know the difference! The baritone horn has tubing wrapped tighter, usually only has 3 valves, usually is not silver-plated, may feature a forward facing bell, may have valves above the tubing (British style), and as stated above has a more cylindrical bore until the bell for a lighter and brighter sound. Because of this tubing one intrusive way to tell the difference is to remove the main tuning slide and to try putting it in backwards. If it fits it's a baritone, if not it's a euphonium. This is very embarrassing though; the euphonium is far more classy than her low-life slut cousin. In summary:



Tuba

Size: 4/4
Pitch: BBb (contrabass)
Valves: 4 Rotary
Model: Yamaha YBB-641

Played by: Hazuki Katou
The Tuba is a low-register brass family valved instrument. Tubas come in many different shapes, sizes, and pitches. Due to their flexibility and effective support of bass tones, they are used in a wide variety of musical settings from concert orchestra to marching band and even solo performance. Don't let her size fool you: while tubas are famous for being large and all about the bass, I've seen tubas capable of 7 octaves i.e. higher notes than scrub-level trumpets!

Our model in this show is the YBB-641, a standard full size contrabass tuba that's good enough for orchestral use, although C pitch tubas are usually preferred there. Rotary valves are more common for tubas (compared to trumpets and euphoniums which are almost exclusively piston), and choice mostly comes down to player preference and maintenance. But the most important constant across all tuba code of conduct: Never complain about how big or heavy or aching you are. One can always spot a tuba by the empathetic yet slightly conceited look they give other orchestra and band members when they complain about their arms/shoulders/back/whatever hurting like the weak bitches they are.


Contrabass (a.k.a. Bass, Acoustic Bass, Double Bass, String Bass, Upright Bass)

Strings: 4 (E1, A1, D2, G2)

Played by: Sapphire Kawashima
Who the gently caress cares, not brass.

...oh okay, fine. The Upright Bass is a low-pitch string family instrument equivalent to the tuba. It too has applications across a wide variety of genres, notably orchestra and string ensembles but also jazz and many types of folk music. It's the only string instrument that sounds good both bowed and plucked, with plucking used by default in jazz settings with assistance from a bass amplifier. In fact, somehow the upright bass has become required by definition to legitimatize a non-funk jazz band over other bands using a poser electric bass guitar. One might ask why the standard tuning of a bass is perfect fourths like a guitar/viol instead of perfect fifths like other violin family bowed string instruments? Because gently caress you it's a bass that's why.


Trumpet

Pitch: Bb
Valves: 3 Piston
Model: Yamaha Custom Z Bobby Shew YTR-8310Z

Played by: Reina Kousaka

The Trumpet is a high-register brass family valved instrument. Due to its bright tone and loud volume, this instrument is known for being the most powerful and driving force in any musical scenario, short of maybe a drum set or the conductor. Trumpets offer the most technical play compared to euphoniums and tubas, using a wide variety of tonguing and fingering techniques. Mouthpiece selection and play with toys such as mutes are also important parts of the trumpet repertoire.

Like tubas, trumpets come in various pitches and sizes. While this show features a standard Bb model, it's no ordinary horn. The YTR-8310Z was custom designed in partnership with Bobby Shew and Yamaha Custom Z series team, featuring a lightweight body and a huge 5" bell. Thinner tapering thickness offers an unprecedented amount of tonal richness with comfortable response.

But none of that really matters, nor does any discussion about trumpets without referring to high notes. All trumpets live and die by their upper range, since it has been scientifically proven that trumpets that can hit higher notes have an indisputably larger penis. Playing the trumpet is essentially yelling "SUCK MY DIIIIICK" at everyone within earshot.



Minor Characters:

2nd Euphonium

Model: Yamaha YEP-621S? (confirmed silver plated model)

Played by: Asuka Tanaka
Looks like the same model as Kumiko but is silver-plated and wearing glasses.


Baritone "Bari Sax" Saxophone


Played by: Haruka Ogasawara
The sum total contribution to society by bari saxes can be represented by these two videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1hlzLsUaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM


2nd Trumpet

Model: Yamaha YTR-6335?YTR-8335R Xeno Series (Yellow brass/Clear lacquer)

Played by: Kaori Nakaseko
Not sure which model she is without seeing the plating or feeling how heavy her body is.New promotional materials reveal she's playing the combo-metaled reverse lead pipe model. As noted earlier it's all irrelevant; this trumpet probably has a smaller dick than Reina.


Trombone

Model: Yamaha YSL-882

Played by: Shuuichi Tsukamoto
The worst designed brass instrument. Almost. It's edged out by the French Horn on the account of the trombone being actually usable.


:siren:THE REST:siren:
https://imgur.com/a/bunLj



Other Stuff:

Official Website: http://anime-eupho.com/
Twitter?!: https://twitter.com/anime_eupho
MAL link to characters and VAs for reference stalking: http://myanimelist.net/anime/27989/Hibike!_Euphonium/characters

PVs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K39h910EQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhU8qO-qDhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Kk9xhVkB8

OP: DREAM SOLISTER by TRUE
Orchestral: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4maNMIgRH8

ED: Tutti! (トゥッティ!) by the 4 main characters
Orchestral: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feJyw6W5tP4

Other awesome songs/videos:
暴れん坊将軍のテーマ (Theme from Abarenbo Shogun)
Orpheus in the Underworld (Can-Can) by Jacques Offenbach
海兵隊 (The Marines' Hymn)
Symphony No 9 in E minor, Op 95 by Antonín Dvořák
The Fairest of the Fair by John Philip Sousa
Funiculi Funicula by Luigi Denza
RYDEEN by Yellow Magic Orchestra (orchestral)
三日月の舞/堀川奈美恵 (Crescent Moon Dance by Namie Horikawa)
マーチ「プロヴァンスの風」/田坂 直樹 (March "Wind of Provence" by Naoki Tanaka)

Spoilers: Don't!
When to watch: April 7th, 2015!
Where to watch: Crunchyroll!
Fun Fact: Did you know that literally everyone who has learned how to play euphonium has held it like a bazooka?



Enjoy the show!

AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Dec 27, 2016

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AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Allarion posted:

Contrabass is clearly the superior choice here.

AnacondaHL posted:

Who the gently caress cares, not brass.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Oh damnit I forgot a sentence on if they show any trumpet player spinning a trumpet with the 3rd valve slide ring they immediately become the undisputed best character and character with the largest dick. Well consider this post the ultimatum.


edit: oh, I remember why I took that out; it's when I noticed all the Yamahas being used, which I don't think the slide lock is good enough for spinning. So the moral of the story is buy a better trumpet.

AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Mar 1, 2015

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Sakurazuka posted:

I'd never actually heard of a euphonium until I read this thread.

We are all here to learn, forums friend. Please take special note regarding Baritone Horn vs Euphonium.

Davincie posted:

it doesn't amuse me, its the sign of a loving troll and i've had it with these nerds and their stupid brass instruments

u mad? :troll: get gud

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

The Devil Tesla posted:

I heard there's a boy in this show confirm/deny???

If the trombone boy doesn't use his instrument to inappropriately poke the other characters then I know nothing.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Namtab posted:

Tell me more about the anime babes

Sure.






hth

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Dick Spacious CPA posted:

i dont like how rude OP is being towards the girls in this show.

strings sympathizer spotted :frogout:

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.


please don't doxx me

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

SSNeoman posted:

Isn't the Saxophone technically a woodwind?

Brass woodwind, yes. It's the concession we are willing to make to keep clarinets/etc the gently caress away from real bands.

Triggerhappypilot posted:

If there is a girl with a rotary-valve trumpet she will automatically be the best girl.

Yea, best at being a concert orchestra bitch.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

By the way, the most proper way for a trumpet to play in concert orchestra is to get a high F or G trumpet and play as loud and bright as possible.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Gibbo posted:

As a trombone player I heartily object and will jab you with my slide if this mockery continues.

hmmm yes music must be further simplified so I can play it I am a well designed instrument oh no incoming fast notes and weird intervals muffle bumble faaaart

Yasser Arafatwa posted:

Nah man, the beauty of low brass is not giving a gently caress about all the tryhard trumpet/baritone/french horn players so far up their own asses.

muffle bumble faaaart

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

The Devil Tesla posted:

This is deeply obnoxious.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

real talk tho it's all love bone players. without you and all the other lesser instruments, the world couldn't revolve around me because then there'd be no world

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Sometime recently the website got redesigned, including a section specifically for the instruments. I should have offered to write this webpage for them.
http://anime-eupho.com/instrument/

Fun fact I learned today: Japanese picked up the Italian word for "bassoon" as a loan word, making one of the most unfortunate instruments even more unfortunate.


The character list got updated too, and is now more of a mapping:
http://anime-eupho.com/character/chart/

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

I am immensely disappointed at the lack of percussion. Dropped.

They are now listed in the instrument section! But...

a kitten posted:

Even though this show is about brass instruments, i hope that they can find room for the girl who plays the giant hammer.


...no character listed yet!

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

ultimatemegax posted:

This show has characters?! I thought it featured instruments!

Perhaps I should update all terminology as "interdependent human fleshbag partners".

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

OP has been updated with the confirmed 2nd Euphonium and 2nd Trumpet models.

ChubbyThePhat posted:

4-valve tuba. The best character has been decided.

I don't think they even make legit 3 valve tubas anymore. 5 valve is the sweet spot; 6 and 7 valvers are trying way too hard to be hipster.

And they're so expensive that they're just using the same model for all 3 tuba characters lol.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Dick Spacious CPA posted:

here is the second PV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Kk9xhVkB8 look at them hand drawn instruments

is Raina seriously just playing a silver plated model goddamn gently caress

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

a kitten posted:

Now i'm holding out hope for both the Giant Hammer but also the Funk Engine.



No one plays sousaphone outside of marching band. Unfortunately.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Xelkelvos posted:

That's because it's only purpose is for use while standing. Otherwise, just use a regular tuba.

Uhm, also for spinning around your body and waving like a radar dish :colbert:

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.


lol Haydn concerto in the OP, what is this, middle school? :smug:

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Mederlock posted:

As a euphonium player, I can't speak for the string players there but its the general classical musicians thread and its criminally unknown imo.

As for this show, I'm interested in checking it out due to it featuring my instrument of choice, but my expectations for it are so fuckin low. What are your guys' thoughts on what little promotional material has been released?

Do you like drama over who gets to do the solo?

Do you like legs?

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

For real though RIP Maurice André he basically did this

AnacondaHL posted:

By the way, the most proper way for a trumpet to play in concert orchestra is to get a high F or G trumpet and play as loud and bright as possible.

but with a goddamn piccolo trumpet, absolute badass.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Bauxite posted:

Lots of people ITT that washed out of learning to play french horn, the actual best brass instrument.

This is adorable. You are adorable. :allears:

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

I was always in the back (percussion) so I couldn't hear them play, but the actual folks who played French Horn in my high school were some of the chillest motherfuckers in the band.

You have to be the chillest to deal with an instrument that's so unnecessarily frustrating. Pretty sure the best use of a french horn I saw was a makeshift bong.

On the plus side, if you went out with the "senior french horn girl" you shot to the top of the band weirdo social pyramid.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

a kitten posted:

Just announced as streaming on Crunchyroll.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/sound-euphonium

Thanks, OP updated.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

TheWhaler posted:

As a percussionist I'm hoping that they show the percussion section being the dicks we always were. What else do you do in your 80 bars of rest?


Trumpets don't do poo poo compared to the cymbals. I loved terrorizing the poor lower brass with those wonderful things.

As one who played both trumpet and percussion among other things, I too can confirm that playing percussion is essentially doing the jack-off motion at everyone to various degrees, with the crash cymbals being actual ejaculation at anyone within earshot.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

goldmine

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

I can't believe they actually got a band to sound like a high school band i.e. kinda sucky.

I can't believe they dedicated the first half of the first episode to the main character immediately pointing this out and dwelling on it.

I can't believe they did the learning how to buzz on a mouthpiece thing.

:getin:

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.


AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Mentat Radnor posted:

There was a whole 0.9 seconds of a handsome young man performing a fantastic Timpani roll. I'm in, eagerly awaiting more brief moments of animated percussion.

the handsome young man wearing a girl's school uniform, including bow and skirt, in a Kyoto Animation anime?

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.


Good to see that the goofiness of percussionists is a global thing.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

That was barely about legs at all.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Allarion posted:

I feel bad for Aoi. She just wanted a light music club and everybody else feels pressured to go for the nationals.

What an unfair vote. It should have at least been a blind vote!

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Shukaro posted:

I did not expect an anime to capture the highschool concert band experience so accurately.

The casual band geek innuendo is hilariously accurate




AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Davincie posted:

good faces this week



AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Also, after 4 episodes I can safely say KyoAni can't draw faces/mouths right of characters when they are playing brass instruments. The embouchure is all wrong and they aren't frowning enough.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

arisu posted:

Good episode.

Saw on another forum, apparently Rikka High School is based off of a real life high school, this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzNmqRryCTQ

Actually nicknamed "Orange Demons" by other schools.

For high school this is really good.

Still pretty :psyduck: that they didn't give them Mellophones and Marching Baritone Horns to use.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

dogsicle posted:

This episode was so beautiful and fun it made me want to cry. This show is great to have coming off of Shirobako, and it's not at all weaker for using the high school setting.

The "catching up with an old middle school buddy at the marching band competition while in uniform" scene was unbelievably accurate.

This whole show (and the stories shared in the thread) make me want to buy thank you gifts for my old band teachers for being not-terrible.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Davincie posted:

whoa, it's so stiff! what is this?
i'll help, too
what do i do?
don't worry. hold this end. ready?
one two *grunt*


:mrgw:

For those of you that weren't actually in band, yes the innuendo in this show is accurate, no we're nowhere near close to exhausting the supply.

This was an excellent setup episode for the inevitable trumpet dick-waving contest.

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AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Please don't post spoilers from the books.

OP updated with the songs used though 7 episodes:

暴れん坊将軍のテーマ (Theme from Abarenbo Shogun)
Orpheus in the Underworld (Can-Can) by Jacques Offenbach
海兵隊 (The Marines' Hymn)
Symphony No 9 in E minor, Op 95 by Antonín Dvořák
The Fairest of the Fair by John Philip Sousa
Funiculi Funicula by Luigi Denza
RYDEEN by Yellow Magic Orchestra (orchestral)
三日月の舞/堀川奈美恵 (Crescent Moon Dance by Namie Horikawa)
mentioned but not played yet: マーチ「プロヴァンスの風」/田坂 直樹 (March "Wind of Provence" by Naoki Tanaka)

If anyone can find a recording of Crescent Moon Dance that'd be great.

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