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RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

Howard Phillips posted:

Dunno if you've seen the "4 Reasons I Am Resigning My Commission As A Naval Officer" article that's been making the rounds. http://taskandpurpose.com/4-reasons-i-am-resigning-my-commission-as-a-naval-officer/

The online response by senior (meaning mostly terminal O4s and O5s) has been "How dare she complain and criticize without recommending solutions! Priviliged millennial!" Which speaks volumes for itself. The fact that the institution doesn't tolerate any criticism or legitimate complaint basically dooms itself to continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

The Duffle Blog sort of blew it out of the loving water, and to be honest the reason why the navy explains why it is full of 40 year old white dudes is sort of top gun, like the officers who are 05-07ish are guys who were ring nockers in the top gun era, and my god it just reads like "boo hoo the military isn't family friendly? Blame congress for doing poo poo gently caress man, its just full of complaining about dumb things without context, gently caress man, you should know this. Man, I like you, but ugh, it feels like you are trying to sympathize with someone who forgets we effectively sign a borderline slavery contract to the powers that be, at least acknowledge that part.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2015 02:59

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 08:37

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

DustyNuts posted:

When I had my CFL gig, I convinced the CO to give 24/48/72 hour liberty chits to Good/Excellent/Outstanding PRT's. Our bare minimum Satisfactory dudes put out a bit more effort and our Good+ numbers improved quite a bit.

My command does that as well, because they care about fitness. They also made 3.4 plus on the CTE get you a special lib chit and that has helped improve morale here as well. Honestly this place is great I like my ship, but I am honestly blessed to be on it to be honest.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2015 13:26

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

DustyNuts posted:

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/244740-navy-to-christen-ship-in-honor-of-gabby-giffords

Stupid and weird.

Bring back the USS Shangri-La!

edit: I guess they're just following the convention that if you're a politician and get shot in the dome you get a USS named after you.

If racists and traitors can get subs and carriers, then I don't see why she cant' get named a LCS.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 01:44

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The Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and the Dixon, (States rights is codeword for "I hate negroes/I failed history"

# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 01:54

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

I have a question. Has anyone here flown OCONUS for leave. I apparently have to fly over to the family estate, which means I have to start planning an Africa trip, but how bad is it, I would be flying to Uganda and I am not heading north (Though the LRA got pushed outh) or to the South as I am not a diamond/uranium/logging smuggler, and the normal department of state website says it is "Critical" risk of crime and high risk of terrorism, so how bad would it be to try and go there.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2015 23:04

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Analogical posted:

You're 100% sure you're related to that African Prince?

If it's a critical country it's not impossible but it'll be god drat hard. You'll have to get the go-ahead from AFRICOM and that can take a few weeks. One of my sailors went to Nicaragua recently and approval from SOUTHCOM took us about two months, and the CO wouldn't approve the leave without it.

i technically am eligible to become a local chief, not even joking. i literally have land, cattle, and people who paid rent on the property, i inherited it when the grandparents died, so yeah, i apoligize for the 419 types, that is from the Dad's side of the family.

Also, thanks. If I get approval, I'll fly out to Entebbe, see if I can find any bullets from where the Israeli's raided. You are awesome.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2015 23:10

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PneumonicBook posted:

Yea no kidding.

I got into it with some of the people I work with about this. I get BAH, and BAH is set to pay for rent/utilities right? So if I'm married to a military member and we're living together why should I get double BAH? The only time it really makes sense to give both members BAH is when they live apart, and even then I'd argue that one of them should get bachelor housing or live on a ship.

Put it this way, according to the navy, for The Hampton roads, the Navy says that naval station Oceania and NWS Yorktown are co located, and if you think that is true I dare you to make the drive between them not at midnight at less than 65mph (and even then the speed limits are poo poo) in less than 2 hours at best. Another example is how DC and how HR are considered co located due to physical distance, this only works at best in the west, but say with how far apart bases even in Japan are, it's an effective disincentive for mil mil marriages and a hidden punishment for mil women, unless you want to force one member to geobatch[and not to mention precoms where you can't for the o side, unless this yard has secret officer staterooms pre barge]

# ¿ Jul 14, 2015 12:35

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

Howard Phillips posted:

But for every woman who is affected by this the husband service member is equally affected by it. No matter how you look at it this change would affect male and female indiscriminately.

A better argument would be that taking money away from mil-mil to marriage might dissuade women from staying in for a career in the military because they wouldn't be paid as much. But that doesn't make sense either because if she's married mil to mil she was already sacrificing for a military career. And if she's any good at what she does why would she leave her career over one BAH check? Especially if her prospect is to become a dependa spouse if she wants to remain colocated?

You are a SWO type, right? If so I was reading that unlike the enlisted schedules, SWO schedules are strict if you want to make rank, and this is why a lot of women tend to quit at the first possibly O3 chance, or like some posted, pay absurd amounts of money for live in nannies/childcare. Is this right?

Also, vrath, poopkities sniped me with my comment, sorry!

# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 02:04

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maffew buildings posted:

Mexico, it's an issue because if I go AWOL and they decide they want me back they'd have a jump off point with the address. Do they bother retrieving wayward sailors? Maybe I'll go start over down there.

I'm going to the one safe part of the country, the biggest issue they have there is old white people buying all the good beach property and ranch land.

I'm planning my Africa trip right now. The training I had to go to is comdedic (since its mostly Army stuff), and things like "be careful and don't eat local food," and it involves a lot of absurd medical precautions before I head over. I mean I feel like they think I'm going to go into the deepest part of Congo or go meet up with Kony (the LRA needs to be removed) or sneak into South Sudan and teach them things.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2015 03:48

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Seqenenra posted:

They might have good reason to wonder about your trip. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/21/how-former-us-army-officer-launched-disastrous-coup-the-gambia

Coups are hard work and for other people

Null Integer posted:

Just be honest, that you are going to build them a reactor.

Not until I get out and get some more connections, I mean the uranium is already there.. :nsa:

# ¿ Jul 22, 2015 22:59

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Boon posted:

You're basically a warlord right?

I just inherited the family farm, (oh god its so much land and we even have workers that came with it). I have to meet with the village chiefs, see the land and see the expansion and new fencing we are putting in, and it is making profit so that's good news.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2015 01:17

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These boards are longer than my senior in rate board was Jesus Christ what are they making you define information warfare from the beginning of computers?

# ¿ Sep 3, 2015 01:34

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Hey, to the LHA/B mission, why not make them skii jump carriers, since they don't have catapults, that way we could not use the expensive VTOL option, and comedy option, buy sea griphens for them, so the marines have their escorts? I mean at least the idea of LCS makes sense, something cheaper to do things like escort tankers and fight ships, a navfiied High Endurance Cutter except without the WW2 era design, with a few missile tubes to fight off choppers and fast attack boats.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2015 00:07

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poopkitty posted:

I am a tech rep., and just had a junior sailor (STG, not yet in C School) ask me about Arc suits. What the gently caress is an arc suit and how much is this stupidness costing us. Did I miss a memo? The other guys I have asked out here (all Navy, mostly ETCs, one or two FCs) know nothing.

I can explain. We have these on my ship since the voltages are super loving high and will kill you. They are what you need to rack breakers and to deal with high voltage and high energy electrical suits. They are not in most navy supply systems yet so they are a pain to get, and I assume since you are a radar rate you need them because of your weird high energy radar things. They get smelly if you have to use them frequently and have only a limited amount of washes before they are not usable because the protective layer is washed away, but it is around 1000 or so washes. The helmets tend to have plastic internal parts that crack if you have to use them frequently, the related plastic gloves have a bunch of 3M maintaince with them..

(yes this is part of my job why do you ask) The suits vary because an arc flash is just the arc between the conductors in question, while a blast is the "oh gently caress explosion" when metal decides to change phases from solid to liquid and then explode, and if your people don't have these suits on, there will not be enough of them for a casket funeral as they turn into literal plasma.

If your people are heading to my class of carrier that might be why, since I know your end of the radar is a mysterious black box, we just provide power into it and then a mystery occurs.

# ¿ Sep 20, 2015 14:52

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Kawasaki Nun posted:

The gently caress? Are these voltages high enough for arcing to occur to the skin from connections? A whole suit for electrical safety seems bizarre when the rubber room is a thing.

If the insulation breaks down yes, but the arcs in high voltage applications can be high enough to jump across large rooms, but the suit is more for the hot burning gas cloud that is now heading towards your body, and the bright flash of the arc so you are not blinded.

# ¿ Sep 20, 2015 22:26

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Kawasaki Nun posted:

heh if you're being chased by a plasma ball aren't you already dead?

I found the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyBoLqtCpxQ here that shows how it protects you from ceasing to exist, notice how the suit takes no damage (and thus saves you).

# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 00:48

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Nostalgia4Ass posted:

Yeah, it's totally unreasonable to expect a grown man or woman to be able to google the name of their command followed by quarterdeck (or Officer of the Day for Marines) and actually talk to a human being about their checking in. Before google, I could still call the operator and ask for the base operator's number.

Sponsors are great for folks checking into units overseas. I get that it's difficult to travel in foreign countries where there is a language barrier and currency exchange issues. It's dumb to think that adults are incapable of showing up at the front gate of whatever base they're going to in CONUS though.

I first reported to a shipyard. There are 3 carriers, 2 and a half subs in yard, and a destroyer undergoing repairs and a MTS was here at the time. I know you are a jaded sea warrior but if my ship did not have a good sponsor program navigating the security situation in the yards alone would have been a nightmare, not to mention the fact that our offices were scattered across downtown Newport News, Norfolk and Porthsmouth. Please tell me why you expect people to navigate Norfolk Naval, San Diego or even a smaller base like bremmington or Guam

# ¿ Oct 19, 2015 14:00

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Godholio posted:

Like that but overseas, in groups of 20+, for security *reasons*.

Yeah 33 white dudes over 5'10" in polos and khaki shorts spilling out of a couple of 15-pax vans really blend in well with the local 5'6" Arabic population wearing LA Lakers jerseys and Hugo Boss poo poo.

I have relatives who travel overseas through the various big middle east airports, and they complain that "American Secret Agents" are everywhere, and they show cellphone pictures of people who are like that, I don't know who they are fooling, its super obvious, unless its more of a anti knifing defensive maneuver.

# ¿ Oct 22, 2015 01:31

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It is running well, we had a good harvest and its profitable which is nice, but now the big discussion is tourism and we have to build an airstrip and helipad, so I am having to spec that out.

# ¿ Oct 22, 2015 13:13

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vulturesrow posted:

Id hate to be your security manager.

I can't be that bad, we have like 4 Iranians, Combat systems might as well be the African Union, we have several ROC nationals who lived there for 10+ years.. our ship is a giant multicultural fun place.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 00:16

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orange juche posted:

I think the Ford is supposed to be the first carrier that has gator navy improvements like rack fans and poo poo.

Half the racks do half the racks don't, all will by psa (lord knows thanks to testing poo poo broke in new and innovative ways)

# ¿ Nov 1, 2015 02:21

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I have heard multiple arguments that if Watergate was never caught we would have this current carrier named the Nixon instead of the Ford.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2015 07:48

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vulturesrow posted:

I've found USAA to be pretty lovely when it comes to mortgages and several friends of mine have had the same experience as well.

Also, I'd say buying a house is kind of a crummy investment in general unless you plan on living in it for a substantial amount of time. If you have a lot of cash sitting in a savings account there are better ways to put it to work.

The issue is in most popular markets, rent rises are rising much much faster than inflation, so buying a house is simply a way of preventing rent rises from eating away at your paycheck.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 18:08

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Stairmaster posted:

Close enough since I'm CTM.

I was betting on nuke myself but a ctm is fair enough. Also shut up in boot camp and don't get married it is not a good choice, don't underage drink and do not dui and life will be easy.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2016 01:04

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

I want to say that's an Independence LCS.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2016 00:38

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ManMythLegend posted:

FREEDOM class LCS.

Sorry about that, I forgot Independence is the sci fi looking one while Freedom is the 'regular' looking ship.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2016 02:02

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

don't be a nuke
don't loving do it
if he says nuke run away
i will say that being a nuke was a hard thing and it sucked and it was the best WORST decision of my life.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 12:37

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Sir Lucius posted:

You are out now ryand?

In about 30 days. I'm about to do the transitory things.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 13:14

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

Man reflections on navy life now that I am close to the end.

Holy poo poo the nuclear field as a whole is loving hosed and not in the "lol nuclear accident" way, more in the "they demand the impossible, and when people cheat they act shocked, shocked I say" like how the nuke cheating scandal broke what 2 years ago. Let's face it, it was going to come (and that was literally 12 years of cheating).

There are demands that are "hard" and it's understandable, they pay us the big bucks and that's fair, but then there are the impossible things. My command has been amazing and much love to them but the horror stories, the outright fear and climates of literal terror that are out there push people out and make anyone who can get out get out.

It also has the typical navy lifer mentality combined with a borderline cult feeling which is to this day almost like a religion.

Honestly I still don't understand how the program works to this day.

Tl;dr don't make the mistake I did, the program has fundamental long term issues, and the senior leadership is so rapidly disconnected from the new people there is a generation gap which is ironic as senior leadership usually isn't that old.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2016 16:54

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I just prevented a girl from joining as a nuke. She was about to sign. I think I did my good deed for a day. I also saw a recruiter at the nerd convention I was at. I have solved the DLI CTx and Nuke school mystery.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2016 22:30

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PneumonicBook posted:

Still in the Reserves and regretting it one weekend a month. Disability rating finally came back, good poo poo. I wouldn't say I regret the ten years I did active, they set me up for what I view as a pretty easy civ life.

BTW everyone should try to get a government job when they get out, they're the best.

Does state government count? My dad did that (and if all goes well, 1.5 months left in the navy. Oh god where did the time go)

# ¿ Jul 16, 2016 04:04

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Stultus Maximus posted:

Depends. Are you in one of the few states that still offers jobs with real paychecks and benefits or are you in one of the many ones that destroyed public sector employment out of jealousy and "MY TAX DOLLARS"?

my dad works in NYC for a reason (because the fatass loving killed Jersey i hope chris christie gets a loving heart attack the fat gently caress is the worse if he dies it would be too soon, gently caress him, gently caress his couch gently caress his fat rear end if the state senate had balls they would impeach his dumb rear end gently caress him.

# ¿ Jul 16, 2016 20:47

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LingcodKilla posted:

Can you wear a tracksuit to cover up your coveralls on the way to work?

Most did this or large baggy clothes over the coveralls. I had an adidas tracksuit and went full Slav

# ¿ Jul 22, 2016 11:51

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Kawasaki Nun posted:

Why the poo poo wouldn't you just keep coveralls at the dock? You guys literally had no bearthing or divisional spaces to keep stuff like that in?

This was in the construction phase when well yes we had none of these things, as the boat was parts and pieces

# ¿ Jul 22, 2016 20:42

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thank god i am getting out before the changeover

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 22:41

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

gently caress man as a nuke, when I was in training I literally burnt out one car because every drat 4 day and chance I could I drove, put 70K miles on one car and I bought a new one because it would have cost me 8K to repair the 10K POS I got back in Charleston. There is a lot of poo poo to do in the navy man.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2016 11:22

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ManMythLegend posted:

That's the way it was before . You filled out a resume and job application with your various skills and work experience in plain language. Now people will be doing exactly the same thing, only with the entire personnel system exploded in a day with no notice and no backup plan in place.

Removing ratings literally changed nothing when it comes to getting a job on the outside. Saying that it helps sailors transition to the civilian world is a smokescreen.

I literally am getting out in a few weeks. I have a job offer confirmed. I literally did this. They scream this at you at taps. They say assume civilians know nothing about the military and you translate what you did into civilian terms. MML you continue to be amazing and keep it real. Literally this new change was not needed. If they wanted to really have balls they would unify all the services into a common code, like all SF would be SpS and a code for seals, all electricians would be EO and a code for whatever , and that would be a unified joint thing so alll mil would know what you did. This right now is well the sort of top down bullshit no planning change that is a non ideal navy thing. Uniforms need to be changed now. I am sorry but this is the sort of not being a good steward with tax payer money poo poo that disgusts me. Sorry for being a tool but this makes me angry just because of how haphazard it was. No planning, just "gently caress it do it live", and I have a buddy who by all means would benefit (first class fire controllman, went to Iraq because his NEC is the one that operates the land based aegis system, saved tons of lives on his 4 Iraq tours but he can't make chief because FC Chiefs are all sea based ICs, even though he has everything including a Purple Heart from his Iraq tours.).

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 15:03

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PneumonicBook posted:

What?

Aegis ashore is just an aegis cruiser deckhouse plopped on land, they don't require a special NEC to operate compared to a deckhouse on a ship, the only one we have operational is in Romania, and it just came online a hot minute ago. Additionally, Aegis FC's were not allowed to be pulled IA, when we were supporting. If he went to Iraq he was probably a conventional CIWS tech.

He operated C-RAM (had to look that up), which is apparently a strange thing. It wasn't aegis ashore.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 23:36

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Sir Lucius posted:

I understand if you have years left and have to drink some kool aid to make the pain go away. But getting rid of rates with no transition period was a horrible idea. Like, it's embarrassing how bad an idea it is, and pretty much makes me lose all confidence in the decision making capabilities of the navy.

That is again what makes me go "what". Normally, the navy does weeks and years of research before literally coughing. I mean for the gay changes, they had weeks of change. But for this bullshit, it was lol get wrecked we remove rates with no plan.

# ¿ Oct 7, 2016 14:11

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 08:37

RCK-101: Feb 19, 2008; If a recruiter asks you to become a nuclear sailor.. you say no

sweg420blazeit posted:

Sup gents. I'm currently applying for the Navy's NUPOC program. It's not a done deal by any means, I haven't even done interviews yet.

Found this thread through a google search, and I've been reading through its 157 pages for a couple of days now (there's some serious knowledge in here!!!). It's been nice to see the side of the Navy that isn't on a brochure or in a recruiter fairy tale.

Quoting this because lol if you do this

# ¿ Oct 11, 2016 22:15

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