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Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

Is this the flash thread?

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Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Regarde Aduck posted:

So how many of you retards are going to protest vote in what is a very important election? Between you lot and the SNP I can't wait for the self fulfilling prophecy of Torygeddon to begin in full.

I'm going to do a write in vote for the SNP here in north London because I love Salmond hero of the socialist revolution so much.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Sharkie posted:

I just assumed it was named after the movie.

Nah. There's a lot of dispute over exactly what the original "full Monty" was, but the phrase goes back to World War II and Field Marshal Montgomery. It just means "with everything".

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Jedit posted:

Nah. There's a lot of dispute over exactly what the original "full Monty" was, but the phrase goes back to World War II and Field Marshal Montgomery. It just means "with everything".

Nice AV. Your own purchase?

Kaislioc
Feb 14, 2008

Regarde Aduck posted:

So how many of you retards are going to protest vote in what is a very important election? Between you lot and the SNP I can't wait for the self fulfilling prophecy of Torygeddon to begin in full.

I've got a deal with the devil going on. If the SNP gently caress up a Tory government, I get to become a "cool hellghost" and haunt everyone that even thinks about complaining about getting a government "England" didn't vote for. I'm a bit anxious about my soul's future but I think all in all it might be worth it. So no surprises about my voting intention there. Think I might start calling myself a Spectronat.


Badger of Basra posted:

I'm voting SNP because as an Indian-American I lust for English tears.

edit: Just realized I will be physically unable to drink English tears. Beginning to regret deal.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

A Winner is Jew posted:

They do if you don't have to turn it into a black mass so you're sure you won't go crazy from eating it.

thats not blood

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

big scary monsters posted:

Nice AV. Your own purchase?

No, and like the man portrayed it's stuck around longer than it should have and will be gone sooner than its fans would like.

Pantsuit
Oct 28, 2013

Spaceman Future! posted:

Chili Rellenos, Fajitas, Tamales. Hell street tacos never have beans, I think you may be suffering from Taco Bellitis.

I am British, there are like two taco bells in the UK.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Jedit posted:

No, and like the man portrayed it's stuck around longer than it should have and will be gone sooner than its fans would like.

its a pretty hideous shirt

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

Pantsuit posted:

I am British, there are like two taco bells in the UK.

Sweet jesus it made it outside quarantine

Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

Spaceman Future! posted:

Sweet jesus it made it outside quarantine

It's even in Korea!

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


There is a Wendy's near Whitehall and a Whole Foods Market in Piccadilly Circus.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Sad Panda posted:

It's even in Korea!

Well the US military does account for over half the population

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


I'm imagining an UKish taco with baked beans in it now and it's turning my stomach lol.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


The Greggs baked bean taco; truly, the ambrosia of the gods.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
With Colmans mustard in lieu of salsa.

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

PupsOfWar posted:

It is because you reside in a hick nation that the French should have been permitted to conquer centuries ago.

:)

In other news, an interesting discussion in this article about zero hours contracts and whether there's actually been an explosion, as Miliband claims. I've tried to rustle up some numbers from the ONS before in this thread, but it's nice to see the Beeb having a go and potentially getting to the same conclusion.

The (caveated) figure is that 2.3% of people have a zero hours contract as their main job. On average, only 34% of people on zero hours contracts want an increase to their hours.



It feels a bit like this is the equivalent of the "immigration!" rallying cry/scapegoat, but for the Left...it's lovely if you're part of the <1% of employees who have a zero hour contract and want to work more hours, but should hardly be a main theme of the election as it's a fringe issue.

In discusting food chat, you can't beat the poo sausage I had in France last year:

Prince John fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Apr 2, 2015

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
SEX WITH GREGGS TACO BURNED MY BELLEND

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures

Prince John posted:

The (caveated) figure is that 2.3% of people have a zero hours contract as their main job. On average, only 34% of people on zero hours contracts want an increase to their hours.

Is wanting an increase to their hours really the issue here? The main thrust seems to be that people on zero hours contracts could at any time lose the hours they currently have, and go down to nothing.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Regarde Aduck posted:

So how many of you retards are going to protest vote in what is a very important election? Between you lot and the SNP I can't wait for the self fulfilling prophecy of Torygeddon to begin in full.
No protest voting here, I'm either voting tactically for the SNP or with conscience, for the Scottish Greens.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Is this actually the UK thread or did someone rename the chat thread? I'm so confused by all these foreigners, this what it must be like to be 50 in Kent and suddenly see a black person, no wonder they vote UKIP.

Also yeah saying only a significant minority of 0 hours contract workers want more hours miss the point that they might be fine with the hours they work but they almost certainly would like a guarantee to work the amount of hours that they do and have a predictable schedule of those hours as well.

Soylent Green
Oct 29, 2004
It's people
One of the big problems with zero hour contracts are that you don't get any paid holidays; how many of us could afford to take 4 weeks unpaid leave?

Let's imagine a 0-hour contract is probably a minimum wage job. If they're working an average of 4 hours a week that's £104 they're missing out on if they take their holidays. Going to the other extreme if they're working 40 hours a week that's £1040. 16 hours is probably a fairl realistic number though; that comes in at £416.
Companies do this with properly contracted employees too though, lowballing contracts and then giving extra on top of the contract.

I've never worked for anyone who used zero hour contracts outside of christmas temps but even then the SOP was to hoover up as many applicants as seemed promising, stick 'em on 3 months zero hour contracts and then just stop giving shifts to the people who didn't make the cut. It was horrible and poo poo for morale but very widely practiced.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Heavy_D posted:

Is wanting an increase to their hours really the issue here? The main thrust seems to be that people on zero hours contracts could at any time lose the hours they currently have, and go down to nothing.

I wonder how many people in 'does not want more hours' actually want less, since an employer can demand long days with the threat of no work at all if you don't comply

How does overtime even work in those situations? Does any of the usual legislation apply? Call me crazy but I have a gut feeling of 'no'

Soylent Green
Oct 29, 2004
It's people

baka kaba posted:

How does overtime even work in those situations? Does any of the usual legislation apply? Call me crazy but I have a gut feeling of 'no'

Assuming you're going through payroll and not cash in hand... sort of/it depends. Say you get paid fortnightly and you work 60 hours one week then 15 the folllowing week for a total of 75 hours. The system would average you out to 37.5 hours a week so no overtime even though you should be due 20 hours OT and 55 BROP. I can't say for sure it's like this everywhere but every payroll system I've ever used was set up that way.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

But isn't all the legislation based on exceeding your normal contractual hours, which in this case don't exist in the first place?

Soylent Green
Oct 29, 2004
It's people

baka kaba posted:

But isn't all the legislation based on exceeding your normal contractual hours, which in this case don't exist in the first place?

Most part time contracts I've seen stipulate that overtime only applies when you work more hours than a full time employees contract (so 38/40 for most companies).

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Soylent Green posted:

One of the big problems with zero hour contracts are that you don't get any paid holidays; how many of us could afford to take 4 weeks unpaid leave?

Is this accurate? http://www.acas.org.uk/zerohours

quote:

Zero hours workers have the same employment rights as regular workers, although they may have breaks in their contracts, which affect rights that accrue over time.
Zero hours workers are entitled to annual leave, the National Minimum Wage and pay for work-related travel in the same way as regular workers.

This pdf from the CIPD also corroborates that.

quote:

Zero-hours employees and workers have the right to paid holidays. Full-time employees and workers are entitled to a statutory minimum of 28 days’ holiday per year. Zero-hours employees and workers are treated as part-time workers, and so will usually be entitled to a pro-rated amount of holiday

I do agree with and understand the general problem with a lack of security - I liked the new announcement of the 12 week limit on zero hours contracts from Labour. I hope that will help curb the worst excesses.

Edit: Baka, that was a very interesting point you raised about employees being forced to work longer hours than they wanted - I haven't seen any statistics about that. I suppose the fact the average hours worked are relatively low compared to a full working week suggests that the number of people in this kind of trap is not statistically significant?

Edit2: Soylent, if you know an employer that isn't paying the correct holiday pay for their zero hours workers, do shop the bastards. Tip-off forms can be found on the HMRC website here or you can call the NMW helpline on 08456000678.

Prince John fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Apr 2, 2015

Soylent Green
Oct 29, 2004
It's people
I've worked for a whole bunch of retail outfits over the years and never once have I seen part time employees paid annual leave pro-rata, it's always been your contracted hours. Zero hour employees get annual leave, they just get paid for 0 hours during it.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
Going back a few pages...

Regarde Aduck posted:

While British food is terrible it's terrible compared to Mediterranean and Asian cuisine. It is not terrible compared to the loving poo poo show that is American food.

This is the truest thing that's ever been said on these forums. American food is just plain drat vile, I'd rather starve than eat that poo poo.

As for the election, I can't even begin to process how bad things could turn out if the bastards get in again, and with a majority to boot. Just a having them through a coalition has been horrific enough as it is.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Talkin' poo poo about American good, y'all come to Bozeman and I'll show you the best loving food that ever graced God's good earth.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
UK thread, I have but one question for ya'll: what does deep fried haggis/other scottish deep fried cuisine taste like?

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

My Imaginary GF posted:

UK thread, I have but one question for ya'll: what does deep fried haggis/other scottish deep fried cuisine taste like?

It's the nectar of the gods.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Mister Adequate posted:

Talkin' poo poo about American good, y'all come to Bozeman and I'll show you the best loving food that ever graced God's good earth.
Mountain oysters?

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Woah woah, timeout you motherfuckers. Some joker thinks he can get a better curry in California than Birmingham?

poo poo, I knew they were trying to legalise pot over there... I didn't think they were lacing the loving water with it like fluoride.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

My Imaginary GF posted:

UK thread, I have but one question for ya'll: what does deep fried haggis/other scottish deep fried cuisine taste like?

Like whatever you deep fried it in, of course.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
Little Nicky has big plans for a new Lib-Con coalition: he will allow an EU membership referendum, but only with conditions!

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/782eabf2-d6d0-11e4-a99f-00144feab7de.html#axzz3W2nG7YaU

quote:

Nick Clegg, the party leader, on Monday refused to rule out backing a 2017 referendum, as promised by David Cameron, who started the general election campaign on Monday with what could be his final audience with the Queen as prime minister.
Mr Cameron has guaranteed a referendum if he is re-elected but with polls suggesting another hung parliament, he may need the agreement of other parties to implement it.
The Lib Dems, the biggest party willing to do a deal with the Tories, officially say a referendum should only be held if powers are transferred from London to Brussels.
But senior Lib Dem ministers and officials have said they are likely to back down and allow the 2017 vote, which they see as inevitable. Several of the party’s ministers believe holding a referendum at a set date in 2017 would at least “lance the boil” of growing euroscepticism.
Movement of people from the EU has become an increasingly contentious political issue over the past few years, as citizens fleeing crisis-hit southern European states have helped push net migration to nearly 300,000 a year.
In return for backing a referendum, the Lib Dems are likely to demand concessions, including a say over the timing of the vote, the question asked, and who is allowed to participate.
An ally of Mr Clegg said: “If they want to enlist us in doing something so monumentally stupid, they will have to be extremely generous and persuasive.” Mr Clegg’s ally said the Lib Dems were likely to demand the vote be opened up to under-18s, that the party helps craft the question, and that EU migrants get a say.
Maybe you should focus more on defending your seat and less on fantasizing about what you'll be doing in two years' time, Nick.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Being a mere mp isboring. Much more fun to fantasise about being deputy PM again.

Gonna love it if he loses his seat.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

My Imaginary GF posted:

UK thread, I have but one question for ya'll: what does deep fried haggis/other scottish deep fried cuisine taste like?

Imagine having major organ failure, a stroke, cardiac arrest, and cumming all at the same time. And then you take a second bite.



Scottish chefs are basically the Cenobites from Hellraiser:

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LemonDrizzle posted:

Little Nicky has big plans for a new Lib-Con coalition: he will allow an EU membership referendum, but only with conditions!

Maybe you should focus more on defending your seat and less on fantasizing about what you'll be doing in two years' time, Nick.

The Lib-dems must feel like rats on a sinking loving ship; they're gonna get anihilated this election.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Soylent Green posted:

One of the big problems with zero hour contracts are that you don't get any paid holidays; how many of us could afford to take 4 weeks unpaid leave?

I'm on a zero hours contract with an NHS clerical bank, and I get holiday pay as a fixed percentage addition to my regular pay regardless of when or whether I arrange to not work. So if I worked any number of hours all year and took the same amount of holiday as a permanent staff member in the same band working the same hours, I'd earn the same as them.

e/ don't get overtime or unsocial hours though

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EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

LemonDrizzle posted:

Little Nicky has big plans for a new Lib-Con coalition: he will allow an EU membership referendum, but only with conditions!

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/782eabf2-d6d0-11e4-a99f-00144feab7de.html#axzz3W2nG7YaU

Maybe you should focus more on defending your seat and less on fantasizing about what you'll be doing in two years' time, Nick.

It sounds like he'd want to rig the EU referendum in the same way the Tories rigged the AV referendum. If he could pull it off at least it would poo poo on any other attempt to do it for decades.

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