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Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

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BJ can we get a minute's notice before thread switching? I lost a (fantastic!) post on the understated elegance of some of the new commons revealed today.

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Entropic posted:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-fate-reforged-2015-02-27
Whenever they post FFL decklists I always wonder how much it's warped by things having different stats or mana costs or what have you in development. Some of their lists just look obviously weird. A UB control deck that runs Temporal Tresspass and Worst Fears but only 2 Dig Through Time?

For instance, Atarka (featured in one of their decks) was meant to cost 6 instead of 7 according to one of the R&D videos.

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Which begs the question of why it's formated that way. It seems very "feel bad" and unintuitive for the unsuspecting caster.

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qbert posted:

Also another question. I didn't realize Exploit allowed you to sacrifice the creature you just cast. Will the 2nd triggered ability even go on the stack if you choose to say, cast Sidisi and then sac it to its own Exploit trigger?

It will. According to Gottlieb:"yes, she can exploit herself"

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Oct 24, 2010

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Symphonie posted:



now argue about this one

i think art is pretty

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Entropic posted:

What are you killing with this that Valorous Stance doesn't hit?

I guess Mantis Rider, Rakshasa Deathdealer, and Fleecemane Lion.

It's also more reliable than Stance because of (opposing) Stances.

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Angry Grimace posted:

Incredibly useless looking "Mythic"



:siren: NEW COMMAND CYCLE :siren:



Cool, throwbacks in a time travel set.

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Wall chat got me to realize the Onslaught Wall of Mulch was a hideous photoshop edit of a painting (I thought it was a bad photoshop original).

The original was restored in the M15 reprint.

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rabidsquid posted:

Black doesn't have a lot of choices and they're really predicated on creature type, which makes it a neck and neck race between the Snake Wall and the Skeleton Wall.

Red has no walls that are interesting in any way, so I guess Wall of Stone gets the nod for being old and somewhat iconic for walls.

My pet black wall would be a 1/1 flying deathtouch defender for B. A fetid rat corpse strapped to a balloon as art.

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Hellsau posted:

I wonder how much other hideous Onslaught block art was due to overuse of digital manipulation?

I think Ron Spencer paints with traditional art materials

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mr. mephistopheles posted:

Actually I'd be willing to bet that the M15 version looks better because of Photoshop.

For them to have gotten the Onslaught version from the "original painting" they would have literally had to go in and add things that weren't there like the spikes in the mulch and the shadow on the overhanging leaf. I don't know Wizard's art policy but I'm guessing they just tweak maybe color and contrast a little if anything, and don't full on add poo poo that wasn't there.

What more likely happened is that an artist got better in the 12 year period between Onslaught and M15 and when they requested the art again (not sure how they store files) the artist digitally repainted it with more skill and modern Photoshop that looks more like real painting.

Sorry, Photoshop is one of my trigger words.

"I was told to make a wall of forest detritus and man-made odds and ends. Later somebody went around my AD and got some poor dude in Production to mutilate it in Photoshop. Thus the illustration you see here and the card don't quite match.

This, too, sometimes happens, dear ones. Just take the money and move on. ;)"

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Wall-of-Mulch-70658352

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So which side up is the correct way to sleeve your cards? Bottom of card to bottom of sleeve or the opposite?

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suicidesteve posted:

Perfect fit with the opening on the bottom of the card, regular sleeve on top facing up. But really, as long as they're uniform it doesn't matter.

Curious about the reason for the differentiation.

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Changes

F2P Magic game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUjnNUy0H1I

"Enter the world’s most popular strategy game with Magic Duels™ Origins, an all-new, free-to-play digital experience. Build powerful decks from an ever-growing collection of earnable cards, and sharpen your skills in a variety of unique solo and multiplayer modes. Begin your adventure here!"

http://news.xbox.com/2015/03/games-idxbox-gdc-2015

"Magic the Gathering: F2P (Wizards of the Coast): The world’s most beloved collectible card game goes free-to-play! It will make its console debut first on Xbox one"

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Entropic posted:

So this is just Duels of the Planeswalkers 2016, right?

Probs. But with a new payment model. I doubt their complete yet accessible magic experience Hearthstone competitor is ready/will ever materialize, and the naming would be poor.

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Gyshall posted:

Great move by Wizards, I think I got last years' Duels on my android tablet and it was crack.

I found the interface incredibly tedious. Lack of an upkeep and other steps was also annoying.

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Oct 24, 2010

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Yo wizards where the evening spoilers at?

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Who won the workshops mirror? Just missed it.

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That's a nasty card, and randomly swingy in a way I don't like. I mean, 10 life? Good thing it's not "spells"

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Hey Sorin, what the gently caress are you actually doing on Tarkir?

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Oct 24, 2010

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Dragons got him brooding



:rimshot:

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Jeez some of the intro pack art is so much more bad rear end


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Oct 24, 2010

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Bombastic trailer for the Origins game, featuring child Chandra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saNAgbhd2gw

I doubt the featured card artwork (like Vengvine) has any implications for what the paper set will include.

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Oct 24, 2010

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mcmagic posted:

I see what you did there WOTC making Foe Razor Regent a 4/5...

What?

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mcmagic posted:

Because if it was 5/5 it would be REALLY REALLY good.

Yeah much better, but at 7 mana still hardly playable I think.

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Emerson Cod posted:

So, with Evolving Wilds spoiled it looks like we won't be getting enemy fetches in Dragons. However, there are 5 spare slots on the sheet since the official set size is 264.

Can someone explain how we know the number of land slots?

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Angry Grimace posted:

The order of cards by color and type always stays the same and is listed in alphabetical order. Basic lands are numbered separately from nonbasic lands and put at the very end (there are always 3 of each basic in large sets). Therefore, if Evolving Wilds is 249/264, there aren't any non-basics after it.

Not that it matters for Zendikar fetchlands, but isn't it 248 on EW? It's tiny, maybe I'm wrong.

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Traditionally how playable have these sort of abilities been?



The Dragonspeaker reduction was a bit beefier.

E:i guess it's effectively a worse, more expensive conditional elvish mystic that can eat goblin tokens

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Oct 24, 2010

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bhsman posted:

New Goblin Sharpshooter?

I dislike that art quite a bit

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Count Bleck posted:

How can you hate that art? It's amazing.

Because:

Madmarker posted:

Because OG Sharpshooter is best Sharpshooter.

but seriously, it just looks like silver bordered card art to me

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Still can't get over this poo poo

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TheKingofSprings posted:

I can't get over how there hasn't been a good Goblin printed in about 5 years

ugh

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Mini impulse

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Entropic posted:

i'm actually really excited by this.


I like that it fits in both control decks and the sort of decks that want to run Monastery Mentor & co.

Yeah. Best current Standard cantrip?

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Lieutenant Centaur posted:

I'm putting 4 in every deck I own.

it does synergize with itself, tbf

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Next planeswalker has to be at least part green, right? Or have walker colors gone unrepresented in blocks before?

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Art for upcoming spoiler

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Minority Deport posted:



Feast of Dragons - 4RR
Sorcery
Sacrifice all creatures you control. For each creature sacrificed this way, put a 4/4 Dragon token with flying on to the battlefield.
OR
Destroy any number of target creatures, for each creature destroyed this way, its controller puts a 4/4 red dragon creature token into play

Not sure which is right.

It looks like that Dragon's Maze Izzet card.

E:dragonshift

Rinkles fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Mar 6, 2015

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Any quick way of spotting fakes?



You probably can't tell from the lovely picture, but the Hymns are much paler than newer cards and their backs a smidgeon redder. I was just wondering whether the print technique changed that much (other old cards tend to also be paler but these stood out).

I don't have delusions of these being worth anything, just curious.

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Also found Siege Rhino's grand daddy

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