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Ships, boats and bacon! How wonderful! IJ, how's Heath doing these days? And I'm guessing the little Jawbreaker got shipped off? I hope he's doing well. Chaosfeather fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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painted bird posted:I had no idea pigs were fluffy. 
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Oct 12, 2015 15:46
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Chaosfeather posted:Ships, boats and bacon! How wonderful! Heath is just as round and stupid as always. He and Rex are stinking up my barn until they grow some hair back. I just sheared them and the sheep aren't good about sharing their shelter. Heath is a super fat 97 lbs and Rex is a skinny 108 lbs. I'm hoping Heath isn't too fat to get his job done next month otherwise everyone is going to have to have dates with Rex, not that he'll mind. Crooky and Big Beef the cormo rams were sold, sadly, as well as the other Mooseling and the Dweeby cormo wethers. The rams went to a great spinner's flock outside of Columbus and the wethers are now out near Cincinnati with a bunch of pygora goats though so it's not too sad. I wish I could keep them all but I only have so much space and it's harder to take care of a bunch of boys than a bunch of ewes just because of how my pastures are set up. Hopefully they send me pictures some time Edit: Isadore and Bialy are getting their girls at the end of the week so we can look forward to new lambs in about 5 months! 
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Oct 12, 2015 23:15
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Instant Jellyfish, Heath and Rex are Angora Goats? The Pygora Goats are pretty cute too!
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Oct 13, 2015 00:16
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I'm just happy that little broken jawed lamb made it to adulthood, don't know if I could have handled a second Weebles(still makes me sad thinking about him)
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Oct 13, 2015 00:19
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Last time, Heath was unexpectedly fertile, don't count him out! I frequent the punchsport forums and one of my favorite wrestlers is named Heath, so every so often, going between browsers, I get intensely confused.
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Oct 13, 2015 00:47
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Do you have any pictures of Crooky before he was sold? I take it this means you actually managed to wean him off his Mum eventually then.
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Oct 13, 2015 02:21
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IN THE CONTINUING ADVENTURES OF lovely DISEASED RESCUED GOATS Linda has started passing MASSIVE tapeworms. Holy crap. So the Valbizen is working, at least. I'll be on a daily campaign of sanitation now, bleaching out the hospital pen (it's tile with a drain) and rinsing thoroughly every morning. It's not too bad, only takes like 15 minutes, then a half hour to dry, Linda and mom Nichole enjoy the time out in the yard grazing and chilling out. I love the hospital pen. It's a big donated dog run, and we put it in the weird old tiled area that used to be (five years ago) a chicken coop. The tile cleans up nicely. Here's a picture of my (admittedly quite short) boss posing next to it after we re-fenced it. The construction fencing works pretty well for now, until we can get the funds in for real chainlink and the time to install it. 
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Oct 14, 2015 00:30
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Yall need wire around the bottom of that pen. A chicken could tear that plastic rubber poo poo apart in a few hours if it really concentrated on one area. Like go get a roll of 3ft or 4ft tall rabbit cage wire and wrap around the bottom so it can't get out. It's not a real big pen, it shouldn't cost you much at the feed store. E: To be honest, what is that? 6 ft square? Go get you a roll of 50ftx6ft chain link from home depot or something. It's less than $100 (a lot less) and you won't even use the whole roll. 
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Oct 14, 2015 01:21
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But it's not for holding chickens? Plus I get the feeling that the $100 needs to be spent elsewhere, especially if the plastic stuff is doing its job.
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Oct 14, 2015 03:31
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I like your hospital pen. That is a seriously great idea. Especially with having the drain.
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Oct 14, 2015 03:51
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I'm baffled. That's supposed to keep in goats, then?
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Oct 14, 2015 05:34
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NOTHING keeps goats in! But seriously though. Most livestock is pretty well barrier trained. They'll need reinforcement but they'll probably be able to get away with it in it's current state for at least a couple days since it will take a while for the animals to realize there's not an electric charge.
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Oct 14, 2015 06:13
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It's 5x10ish, maybe 6x12, I need to measure it again. Totally forgot what the dimensions are. And the hospital pen is currently meant to keep sick goats contained. If they escape, then they are well enough to rejoin their respective herd. Again, we hope to soon have the funds and time to install chain link, and use it as a quarantine pen. Feel free to check out our website! CelestialFarms.org Edit: and the transformer just blew up! So we have no power. Hope the electric company gets here soon. Edit: oh, yeah, it's secured on the bottom every foot or so with a ziptie. The whole thing is really made of zipties. When you got no money but lots of donated zipties and construction fence, you make do! Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 14:24
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Suspect Bucket posted:It's 5x10ish. And the hospital pen is currently meant to keep sick goats contained. If they escape, then they are well enough to rejoin their respective herd. Again, we hope to soon have the funds and time to install chain link, and use it as a quarantine pen. You guys don't have any animals up for adoption according to the link on your own page. You're keeping a mini and a donkey that should be euthanized (or treated by a farrier that CAN do something, assuming there is one) alive for ?? reasons. Yall apparently can't identify a real obvious rooster at 5 yards. I don't donate to poo poo like this, man. A retarded rear end goat is either going to get tied up in that poo poo fencing and murder itself to death trying to get out, or it's going to just ram on through it. Just because a panicked herd animal manages to gather some strength and slam it's way out of your paper-thin garbage walls doesn't mean it's "well enough" to rejoin it's herd. It means it wants to go back to it's herd and it's a dumb rear end prey, herd animal that likely feels threatened as gently caress not being in the "safety" of it's herd and it's going to get there one way or another. I didn't look for handouts on my farm. Why the gently caress would I give theirs any? Go pull out a credit card, swipe it for the fence you need and eat up that sweet sweet interest just like every other farm in the world does when you need a supply and can't afford it. Hell, if it's for goats I wouldn't put chainlink on it anyway. And if you're full to "bursting" why not adopt some of those animals out eh? It's a rescue, not a sanctuary and those are vastly different things. Use the adoption fees to fund instead of sticking your hand out.  Or if you still need additional cash, do fundraisers. Given the pictures and the information you've given me? I'd rather report you to the ASPCA for neglect (and that's what keeping that donkey and mini alive for a month in current condition with their feet looking WORSE than before, is) than give you money. And hey birbmod- is this dude clear to be throwing up his fuckin' gofund me everywhere? Because that requires mod clearance last I knew. E: I was actually kinda on your side until I started looking around yesterday. Then I waited to hear your reasoning and it's all the same bullshit excuses I hear from "rescues" that are actually hoarder sanctuaries. I don't think it's actually YOUR place though from what I'm reading? Run while you still can. Their management's poo poo. And $1500 for gravel and sand for what? How many dozens of tons is that? Because holy poo poo if you're that marshy maybe yall should grow cranberries to shore up that money instead. E2: For anyone who wants to look at how many animals they have up for adoption, per the link on their own site: http://celestialfarms.rescueme.org/ . Link can be found here: http://www.celestialfarms.org/rescue-adoption/animal-adoption-invite-one-home/ Normally I wouldn't do this, but since Suspect Bucket's been posting their fundraiser site, I figure yall should know what's being promoted to donate to. Also, instead of installing an automatic waterer for a goat per the facebook page with donation money yall could gotten that fence. 
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Oct 14, 2015 15:22
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DOn and Nugget have actually been previously adopted out, but were returned. We've had two other returns in the past month (a pony and pig) as well, putting us back at capacity. The automatic waterer was actually a donation from my sister, who instead of presents for her birthday, asked for donations for the farm, and really really wanted the waterer. I'm not about to argue with earmarked donations, particularly not with my sister. The sand and gravel needed is about 125 tons. We've actually been lucky and got about 45 tons of limerock (limestone gravel) for just 250, but the sand has been more expensive with delivery. The limerock also can't be used in all areas. We still need more sand and gravel to lift the levels of the pig yard, sheep yard, and old Bird Yard. We still need fencing supplies (Obviously!) and equipment rentals. The RescueMe and website are the domain of my boss' sister, who has not been updating recently. I'll ask her about that. Anyone in the Jacksonville area is welcome to come to the farm and inspect us. We're having a fun Trick-Or-Treat At The Barn on Halloween, and a Craft Fair in November, but you're welcome to pop by most days except Sunday. Just give us a call first, we appreciate it (so we can obviously hide all the sick ones in the scary shed or something) Putting up the donation link was a mistake on my part, but I took it down. Forgot where I was. I'll take the probation with grace, I do apologize. But as you said, "Or if you still need additional cash, do fundraisers. " That's what the Trick-Or-Treat and Craft fair are, as well as the Crowdrise. And I am a chicken idiot, I do admit that. I don't deal with the chickens very much. Those are the domain of my boss' father, who's a little busy trying not to die of cancer. He's quite attached. I do understand and appreciate why you're being so critical. We're certainly not perfect. But the farm is making positive progress. Again, you're welcome to come visit and inspect any time. I apologize for the derail. Edit: Power company came, power's on! Yay. \/\/\/ The dock and side pasture fence was another earmarked donation, and was specifically for the summer camp. We had to re-do the fencing over there for the kids safety, and so the kids could safely fish off the dock without going into the back pasture \/\/\/ Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 16:02
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There's making due with less because you can't afford it, and then there's building a dock when you're asking for lumber a few short weeks later. Maybe take apart the dock? I get that you pour your heart and soul into it and hey like I said, you seem like a great volunteer. But these people suck.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:05
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Suspect Bucket posted:\/\/\/ The dock and side pasture fence was another earmarked donation, and was specifically for the summer camp. We had to re-do the fencing over there for the kids safety, and so the kids could safely fish off the dock without going into the back pasture \/\/\/ Okay here's a thought: don't ask for money for a dock when you don't need one, it's a waste of lumber and you are in desperate need for funds, lumber and god drat it suspect bucket I am trying to not lump you in with these morons but your defending them just makes me want to go bolt gun everything on the property out of sheer frustration.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:35
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you guys have totally crippled animals who's issues still haven't been addressed months later, didn't test for serious diseases prior to breeding, and are breeding your goddamn rescues even though you can't afford fencing, disease testing, vetting, or lumber i'm sorry but this seems less like a rescue and more like an animal hoarding situation. at absolute best this rescue is horrifyingly mismanaged seriously who the gently caress decides to breed animals and build a loving summer camp when you can't even afford proper fencing and vetting? what the gently caress
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Oct 14, 2015 17:38
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Triangulum posted:you guys have totally crippled animals who's issues still haven't been addressed months later Can you talk more about this? I'm having trouble finding details on the website. I think it's clear that Bucket has a lot of passion for these animals and wants to do best by them, though the more you guys post, the more I do worry about how the farm is managed and how certain things are being prioritized... 
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Oct 14, 2015 17:53
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It's in the chicken thread but there's a horse and a donkey with really bad club feet. Suspect Bucket, I know you care about these animals a lot and that the conditions at the rescue aren't your fault. But this is not good and your boss has really hosed up priorities.
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Oct 14, 2015 18:03
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my cat is norris posted:Can you talk more about this? I'm having trouble finding details on the website. The donkey and the miniature pony are fantastic examples. If their hooves will never ever be fixable, it is better to euthanize them. Suspect Bucket's youtube account visibly shows that these animals' feet have grown worse in the past month alone, as do the snippets on the celestial farms facebook. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNa-8S6zzSo you can see the donkey in this video, circa september 10th (that's when the video was posted). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQopZy2_TPQ here is 1 month later. They're even worse and the animal is visibly starting to knuckle over (that's not the right terminology for a donkey, I don't believe, but it's the same fuckin thing). There is no visible care happening here other than this animal is suffering JUST as badly as it was when they got it. I am not a farrier, however, I did show this to a farrier friend and they said they would euthanize because those hooves are a goddamned disaster area and the way he walks says he's in hellish pain. No two farriers will ever agree 100% on something, but they've had over a month to at least trim those feet back SOME. Compare the miniature horse in the first video to the pictures posted in the chicken thread of that same miniature ( she removed the pictures from the chicken thread because I guess she realized we're loving right, such a shame I loving saved one of the links: http://i.imgur.com/XJl4B80.jpg ) . Those hind hooves are way, WAY worse than they were in the first video on september 10th. Nothing has been loving done to them. And that's disgusting. Fluffy Bunnies fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 18:04
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Thanks for posting more details. I didn't pay any attention to the quality of Don Don's hooves the first time I watched that video, since I was distracted by all the cute rolling around. Would he be rolling like that if he's in pain, you think? Or are the two generally unrelated when it comes to behaviors like this? I'm mostly here for the cute pictures, so I apologize if these questions come off as painfully ignorant. I AM ignorant to farm life and the health of livestock!
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Oct 14, 2015 18:34
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my cat is norris posted:
Hey. Nobody expects people to know everything. Even those of us with livestock don't know everything. Farming is a learning process. But these people own a farm and they should know better with this many animals to care for and saying that they are a "rescue". This is basic 101 livestock knowledge with regard to his hooves. He's rolling around because horses (and their relatives) fuckin love rolling in new shavings. It's new smells, it's new things to put their smells on, it's new things to roll in. It's like when a dog runs outside and rolls around in freshy mowed lawn. That's not pain at all. That's actually pretty adorable.
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Oct 14, 2015 18:42
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I phrased my question poorly! Would he roll around like a doof if he was in bad pain, or would pain stop him from enjoying these fresh wonderful smells?
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Oct 14, 2015 18:45
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my cat is norris posted:I phrased my question poorly! Rolling wouldn't be an issue. Getting up would be an issue and you can see he has trouble with it. When horses (and the like) can't get up, they tend to freak out and flail and either hurt someone or hurt themselves. He's pretty round, too, so if they don't bank the shavings he could get stuck on his back one day- but that's a rare, RARE thing that doesn't happen very often and is a possibility with any horse/donkey/etc. Hell, really fat sheep can end up upside down and not flip back over.
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Oct 14, 2015 18:47
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Gotcha. Thank you so much for answering my questions!
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Oct 14, 2015 18:49
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Please don't advertise your links to crowdfunds/kickstarters/indiegogos/whatever the hells. It's against the rules here and most of the rest of the site, too.
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Oct 14, 2015 19:30
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Huh, I didn't remove the chicken pictures. And I guess you're just going to have to trust me that they are receiving farrier care (or don't). The breeding that resulted in Maleficent happened before I was in a position to really do anything about it, and I'm instituting a new quarantine and control program so that we test all new arrivals. I know this dosn't help my position any, but we're also dealing with a somewhat toxic personality on the farm (that is being divorced and removed) that was trying to use the place as his own little livestock playground/ farm fantasy land. This attitude is being stopped with his exit. He was responsible for bringing in some animals that are being used for food purposes. These are not rescues. The food animals are not with the rescues. The two new piglets are food animals, not from rescued animals, and will either be sold as food or home-butchered. Good news on the RescueMe, with a swift kick in the pants, the 'webmaster' will be updating the RescueMe with the adoptable animals we have. We just never got much positive response at all from internet advertising. Much adoption has been done via word of mouth. I apologize again, Bird. Wont happen again. Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 20:11
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Suspect Bucket posted:I apologize again, Bird. Wont happen again. That's okay. Thanks for the apology.
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Oct 14, 2015 20:13
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I don't know how much more proof you want that you volunteer as free labor for a hoarder rather than a rescue farm but lol.
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Oct 14, 2015 20:43
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:I don't know how much more proof you want that you volunteer as free labor for a hoarder rather than a rescue farm but lol. Hey, I don't know what to tell you other then come see for yourself. We're open for tours. Every day except sunday, which is unfortunate because darn if we don't do our best animal abusing on Sundays.
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Oct 14, 2015 21:07
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Suspect Bucket posted:Every day except sunday, which is unfortunate because darn if we don't do our best animal abusing on Sundays. probably terrible of me but irl lol
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Suspect Bucket posted:Hey, I don't know what to tell you other then come see for yourself. We're open for tours. Every day except sunday, which is unfortunate because darn if we don't do our best animal abusing on Sundays. Sorry I don't want to go home with who loving knows what mass of diseases your idiot boss hasn't "tested" for.
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Oct 14, 2015 21:14
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<~ lol man that's too bad suspect bucket someone could've donated to your favorite hoarder haven instead of giving lowtax $10.
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Look man, there's no excuse for having animals with hooves in that poor of condition for that long or for prioritizing silly bullshit over vetting, farrier care, and appropriate fencing. It's super not okay
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Oct 14, 2015 21:18
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Oh yes Fluffy Bunnies is definitely being unreasonable about the fact that some of your animals are possibly in quite a lot of pain at your hoarding ranch. What a terrible poster.
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Josie posted:Oh yes Fluffy Bunnies is definitely being unreasonable about the fact that some of your animals are possibly in quite a lot of pain at your hoarding ranch. It's not even her hoarding ranch 
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:It's not even her hoarding ranch That makes it even worse that they're defending the place so hard. Protip: go volunteer at an actual rescue, they always need good help. Edit: I'm on the fence about 'good' but I'm willing to give Suspect Bucket the benefit of the doubt, I can understand how you get personally invested in something. Edit 2: Also, saying that Fluffy Bunnies should go see for themselves is just a deflection, the farm has posted plenty of photos and video and that's really all that's needed. Josie fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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I'm moving down that way so maybe I'll swing by since they nicely post their address everywhere. Too bad that my phone doesn't get signals in rural areas or I'd have called first. Golly gee willickers.
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