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Citizen Tayne posted:I've been a primary caregiver for kids for long periods of time, infants and toddlers. that's just because nobody else cares for you
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Cocoa Crispies posted:that's just because nobody else cares for you That doesn't make any sense. I haven't been a toddler for over thirty years.
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Jul 14, 2015 16:49
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Citizen Tayne posted:That doesn't make any sense. I haven't been a toddler for over thirty years. quit posting like one
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Jul 14, 2015 17:03
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Citizen Tayne posted:That doesn't make any sense. I haven't been a toddler for over thirty years. your posting betrays you mr cmos e: beaten like a Pittsburg at sports
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Jul 14, 2015 17:05
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I'd like to get one of the front door auto locks but I've got a locking screen door in front and there doesn't seem to be much for them
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Jul 14, 2015 17:09
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Cocoa Crispies posted:quit posting like one My posts are the best in the forum.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:51
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Citizen Tayne posted:I've been a primary caregiver for kids for long periods of time, infants and toddlers. They never made my hands fall off. lol raising someone else's kids
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Jul 14, 2015 19:27
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haha, yeah, gently caress those kids, they deserve to suffer right
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Jul 14, 2015 19:28
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i've been thinking about getting a roomba cause my carpet is hella crumby and i'm too lazy to vacuum more than like once a month. i have cables running all over the place though, will the roomba be able to roll over those
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Jul 14, 2015 19:34
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the roomba will eat your cables
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Jul 14, 2015 19:57
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Citizen Tayne posted:haha, yeah, gently caress those kids, they deserve to suffer right they're spending time with you so....
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Jul 14, 2015 20:15
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Tiny Bug Child posted:i've been thinking about getting a roomba cause my carpet is hella crumby and i'm too lazy to vacuum more than like once a month. i have cables running all over the place though, will the roomba be able to roll over those it should roll over them but they also have cable-eating detection so they stop if they catch a shoelace or something
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Jul 14, 2015 21:02
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Citizen Tayne posted:haha, yeah, gently caress those kids, they deserve to suffer right calm down aatrak
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Jul 14, 2015 21:06
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Tiny Bug Child posted:i've been thinking about getting a roomba cause my carpet is hella crumby and i'm too lazy to vacuum more than like once a month. i have cables running all over the place though, will the roomba be able to roll over those if they're thin or if the ends are lose it will eat them and probably choke on them and you'll have to pull them out. power cords plugged into the wall it should just roll over. clean up ur hovel a little and it will be fine.
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Jul 14, 2015 21:52
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Have roombas improved a lot in the past decade? My parents had one around 2005 and it was pretty gimmicky then. Basically the faster they can get Rosie from the Jetsons the better.
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Jul 15, 2015 01:30
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Tiny Bug Child posted:i've been thinking about getting a roomba cause my carpet is hella crumby and i'm too lazy to vacuum more than like once a month. i have cables running all over the place though, will the roomba be able to roll over those if ur too lazy to vacuum at least do somethign about running cables properly
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Jul 15, 2015 02:06
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Hed posted:Have roombas improved a lot in the past decade? My parents had one around 2005 and it was pretty gimmicky then. Basically the faster they can get Rosie from the Jetsons the better. if you get one get 700 series
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Jul 15, 2015 02:45
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Or you could get the neato botvac that someone actually put a bit of effort into creating the software for, they have LIDAR scanners on top that map your room and gradually create a strategy for cleaning every part of it. It's fun to watch it clean, it has to stop from time to time just to take a breather and think about the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1zY8vRC2E The roombas are dumb as bricks in comparison, they run around semi-randomly, doing timed switching between edge following mode, spiral cleaning mode and random lines.
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Jul 15, 2015 05:55
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Citizen Tayne posted:You also need the weigh the negative effect on the dignity of other household members that comes with being forced to use assistive devices for the handicapped, when they're perfectly physically capable. this is how i feel every time i use an escalator
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Jul 15, 2015 06:10
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error1 posted:Or you could get the neato botvac that someone actually put a bit of effort into creating the software for, they have LIDAR scanners on top that map your room and gradually create a strategy for cleaning every part of it. It's fun to watch it clean, it has to stop from time to time just to take a breather and think about the world.
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Jul 15, 2015 06:18
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Smythe posted:a good smart home thing would be a roomba brain attached to a 5hp wet dry shop vac. quit loving around and get serious dyson is making a robot vac that looks like it will actually be a decent vacuum
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Jul 15, 2015 12:53
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~Coxy posted:dyson is making a robot vac that looks like it will actually be a decent vacuum something something finally a robot vacuum that doesn't suck
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Jul 15, 2015 13:03
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error1 posted:Or you could get the neato botvac that someone actually put a bit of effort into creating the software for, they have LIDAR scanners on top that map your room and gradually create a strategy for cleaning every part of it. It's fun to watch it clean, it has to stop from time to time just to take a breather and think about the world. that's real cool except that they clean worse than roombas so lol forever
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Jul 16, 2015 20:47
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It turns out that the reason almost nothing is shipping yet for HomeKit is that, as predicted, BT4 is a loving horrible choice for a home automation protocol. Because it was never meant for things like handling locks or other security devices, Apple has tried to shoehorn 3072-bit encryption on top of it. The result is that any hope of a low-power option is out the window and everyone is scrambling to make their locks not take SEVEN FUCKIN MINUTES to respond. It's a problem you can just throw hardware at, but now your battery life is measured in days instead of years. This is Apple through and through. The industry has low-power mesh-capable secure solutions widespread in existing systems across the world (for example, ADT now uses Z-Wave for all their installations). But why use an existing standard when you can use fuckin' BLUETOOTH BABY!? If you have a problem, and your answer to your problem is "bluetooth"... now you have two problems.
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Jul 23, 2015 16:54
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agreed. apple sucks
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Jul 23, 2015 16:58
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Visual GNUdio posted:But why use an existing standard when you can use fuckin' BLUETOOTH BABY!? because the only other answer they ship hardware for today is "wi-fi"
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Jul 23, 2015 17:11
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no worries they can just make a z-wave dongle that plugs into iphones, right? that would be super successful
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Jul 23, 2015 17:16
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qirex posted:no worries they can just make a z-wave dongle that plugs into iphones, right? that would be super successful Or do what literally every other vendor on the market does, and bridge from IP on ethernet/WiFi to your home's low power mesh protocol. It's tested, and it works. But lol why do that when you have BLUETOOTH!
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Jul 23, 2015 17:19
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aren't those bridge things the worst part of all those systems? plus consumers hate stuff like that, sonos used to require a bridge box [you can still use it if you want superior music only netowrking] and when they got rid of that requirement people were super happy
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Jul 23, 2015 18:32
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The only bad part about bridges is that nobody ever manages to agree on an open standard so your smart house will inevitably have 10 different bridges handling one thing each. I have a bridge for my Harmony remote, a bridge for my Philips Hue, a bridge for my bathroom scales, a bridge for the Utility power meter. The z.-wave and Nexa protocols are handled by USB dongles on my home server but you can get bridges for those too!
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Jul 23, 2015 20:48
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qirex posted:aren't those bridge things the worst part of all those systems? If you want the house to automate in any manner, you need something that is always connected to control it. For example, if you want the front lights to come on at sundown and then turn off 3 hours later, some box somewhere makes that a reality. In the case of HomeKit, that's likely to be an Apple TV3 (or whatever is next). So, there's still a hub involved.
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Jul 23, 2015 21:28
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error1 posted:The only bad part about bridges is that nobody ever manages to agree on an open standard so your smart house will inevitably have 10 different bridges handling one thing each. Well get ready to add one more because lol Apple proprietary extensions to BT4 and MFi authentication chips.
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Jul 23, 2015 21:28
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As a Millennial I posted:agreed. apple sucks 
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Jul 23, 2015 22:11
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error1 posted:The only bad part about bridges is that nobody ever manages to agree on an open standard so your smart house will inevitably have 10 different bridges handling one thing each.
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Jul 23, 2015 23:02
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Ralith posted:ZigBee seems to finally be fixing this. At the very least, nearly all the new wirelessly controlled lighting stuff is mutually compatible; I've been using GE Link bulbs with my Hue hub for ages, Osram's Lightify line should work as well, etc. Helps that it's not proprietary. Even better is that ZigBee is a mesh protocol, so each device you add increases the reliability of the entire network. I think it's crazy that Apple isn't heading this direction. It's fast, it's secure, it's open. I won't say it's proven because ZLL profile devices have only been around for a couple years (starting with Hue) but so far so good as far as ZigBee is concerned. I still don't care for smart lights until smart switches are smart enough to control them in a smart manner, but that doesn't have anything to do w/ ZigBee .
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Jul 24, 2015 02:38
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And so it begins: Apple is pulling Nest from it's stores. Apple loved loved loved Nest, then it became a Google property, and now Google is apparently refusing to sign on to Apple's ridiculous requirements for HomeKit (the audit requirement is a big deal for large corps). So now, hey remember that cool looking thermostat you bought from us? Yeah well gently caress that we want somebody to pay us even more money. They're now pushing ecobee3, which honestly is a great choice and it's better than Nest anyway. Still, dick move to bail on the customers who already bought a Nest from them. What's more, they've already suggested that they are going to somehow allow for existing Hue users to hook into HomeKit despite the fact that the hub doesn't have the MFi chipset. So this is a pure business decision, not a technical requirement.
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Jul 25, 2015 12:14
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this will inconvenience literally nobody still lol
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Jul 27, 2015 19:25
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isn't making business decisions like the thing that companes do, by definition?
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Jul 27, 2015 19:35
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no when your competitor buys a product in a market you're trying to capture in its infancy you're supposed to support them because uhhh
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easy, just upgrade a $250 thermostat every couple years. welcome to THE SMART HOME!
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