DEHUMANIZE and face to brandshed

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infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

i dunno, watching pagancow both trolling people and getting legit butthurt when people tell him what a shitstain he and his industry are is pretty entertaining

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 18:28

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 03:39

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

come on you love me

i do, but only for who you are.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 20:13

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

kind of surprised nobody has tried to say blade runner is the worst movie in the world becuase they shove brands down your throat

this is because it's done well. the ads are obviously ads in the context of the film, they're part of the grim cyberpunk landscape, and this is what you'd expect to see

hell even william gibson uses about 20% actual brands as references in hes early cyberpunk stuff, but it's not out of place there

qirex posted:

the brands in blade runner are all advertisements which is the normal home of the brand, it's not like deckard used a surface pro 3 and cortana to zoom in on that photo then printed it on his epson stylus printer

yes, this

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 20:17

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

this is why MTV blurs out brands so that the content can be pure, true, and untouched by advertisers hands.

mtv blurs out brands because visible branding in an mtv spot would hit some sort of singularity for fractal recursive advertizing and just pop the viewer's head scanners style

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 20:18

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

maybe that's why i've been wanting to buy some darts

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 20:27

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

yes, we wont release this trailer we made unless you want it baaaaddd

i think this is pretty great if only because it could fail

of course they'd release the trailer anyway, but it'd make someone look like a right wally wouldn't it?

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 20:33

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

qirex posted:

wow 8000 whole retweets that was a good use of an entire team of people's time

ungh, it's like you don't even get social media engagement

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 20:34

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

The Management posted:

agreed. don't get married folks, it's just not worth it.

especially to a brand

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 21:38

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow, how do i experience a brand?

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 22:36

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Rooney McNibnug posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNvGI9NTSDE

holy lol

now that's engagement

# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 23:16

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

i dont do print but I guess this is cool?

really?

you're the one that's all about proper timing, style, and presentation.

that's obnoxious bullshit that completely overwhelms the content. it can only serve to distract the reader from what they picked up the paper for in the first place. that is what people are mad about when they say they hate ads

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 00:01

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

in that he'll uinironically defend objectively awful poo poo to make a point no one cares about?

yes

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 01:25

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

theadder posted:

is steve jorbs a brand

the way you refer to him? yes

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 01:50

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about steve jobs

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 02:00

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

Brand is the way you feel about the implicit idea an object, word, picture, or idea creates.

yes, which is the context in which theadder references jobs

not as a person but as a collection of emotional responses to the idea of jobs and his cult of personality, i.e. the brand of jobs

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 02:07

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

oval office

you want to gently caress jobs?

interesting, interesting
~furiously scribbles in notebook~

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 02:09

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

that was but one manifestation of steve's brand

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 02:34

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

no?

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 06:54

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

echinopsis posted:

if people seeing a thin in a movie makes them subconsciously want to buy it then it's morally wrong even if it wasn't intended as a brand placement

much like if you watch a Michael Moore doco and it makes you angry at George bush that's immoral

michael moore documentaries primarily make me angry at michael moore. i assume that's okay

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 17:21

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

eschaton posted:

adbusters is a brand with which i can engage

the ultimate irony really.

or not really, just fairly vanilla counter-culture marketing

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 17:22

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

if you find it post it

i would read that

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 17:35

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

awesome. thanks

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 17:44

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2013/10/adbusted/ posted:

If a key insight of environmentalism was that external reality, nature, could be polluted by industrial toxins, the key insight of mental environmentalism is that internal reality, our minds, can be polluted by infotoxins. Mental environmentalism draws a connection between the pollution of our minds by commercial messaging and the social, environmental, financial and ethical catastrophes that loom before humanity. Mental environmentalists argue that a whole range of phenomenon from the BP oil spill to the emergence of crony-democracy to the mass extinction of animals to the significant increase in mental illnesses are directly caused by the three thousand advertisements that assault our minds each day. And rather than treat the symptoms, by rushing to scrub the oil-soaked beaches or passing watered-down environmental protection legislation, mental environmentalists target the root cause: the advertising industry that fuels consumerism.

loving lmao

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 18:53

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

yeah next thing you're going to tell me is that awareness of depression, it being less stigmatized by this generation, and the willingness of doctors to perscribe anti-depressants as a catchall drug have nothing to do with those numbers

sounds like something someone responsible for causing mental illness would say

are you in bed with big pharma pagancow?

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 19:01

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

depression is closely linked to divorce. so now you're telling me ads are causing higher divorce rates?

i would tell you ads are linked to increased cancer rates if i could ~~invent~~ find a stat to back it up

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 19:13

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Boxturret posted:

pagancow is literally killing people

that's what i've been saying this whole time.

the thread title takes on a sinister new meaning in this context

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 19:53

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

advertising is only immoral if it's effective

# ¿ Mar 6, 2015 03:33

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

you know what the fundamental problem is here, pagancow doesn't see selling someone something as an adversarial process, he sees it as a mutually beneficial one

i can't imagine how he can maintain that belief when we're explicitly discussing how brands and ads about those brands are intentionally emotionally manipulative, but i guess that sort of cognitive dissonance is what you need to show up to work every day in advertising

# ¿ Mar 6, 2015 04:12

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

i don't think you can say using emotional manipulation to coerce someone into doing something they wouldn't otherwise consent to isn't immoral since in a more physical context it falls neatly unto the umbrella of "rape"

# ¿ Mar 6, 2015 04:15

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

you do realize thats like blaming a mirror for being ugly?

that doesn't make you not ugly

# ¿ Mar 6, 2015 23:40

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

qirex posted:

advertising is an ugly mirror

surrounded by an overwrought gilt frame, upon closer inspection you discover the frame is actually made of spray painted poo poo

# ¿ Mar 7, 2015 01:27

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 03:39

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Bhodi posted:

Also.

do you, uh, want to quote some adbusters next?

# ¿ Mar 7, 2015 07:22

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