Undeniable proof that God exists

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Infinite Karma: Oct 23, 2004; Good as dead

Sodium is a metal that explodes on contact with water, and Chlorine is a gas that melts your loving face if it gets anywhere near you. There's no way people would have been able to mix those two things together to make regular salt on their own, they would have been exploded or melted if they even tried. So where did all the salt come from, hmm atheists?

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CannonFodder: Jan 26, 2001; Passion’s Wrench

DeusExMachinima posted:

He said God not Satan.

Well he never said a fair and just and also benevolent God.

God is a sock, is what i'm saying.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 01:26

twerking on the railroad: Jun 23, 2007; Get on my level

This is actually an interesting thought experiment. What would undeniable proof of the existence of God look like? If you don't already believe, what wouldn't just make you think you were going insane? What would be strong enough to convince everyone but gentle enough not to make people lose touch with reality?

# ? Mar 10, 2015 03:36

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

Skeesix posted:

This is actually an interesting thought experiment. What would undeniable proof of the existence of God look like? If you don't already believe, what wouldn't just make you think you were going insane? What would be strong enough to convince everyone but gentle enough not to make people lose touch with reality?

There's basically not really a way to convince everyone. Significant portions of the population would think it's something like aliens even if a booming voice and random miracles started happening.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 03:38

Bel Shazar: Sep 14, 2012

Skeesix posted:

This is actually an interesting thought experiment. What would undeniable proof of the existence of God look like? If you don't already believe, what wouldn't just make you think you were going insane? What would be strong enough to convince everyone but gentle enough not to make people lose touch with reality?

Nope. If I can experience it, that isn't god... that's alien.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_V:_The_Final_Frontier#Plot

# ? Mar 10, 2015 03:45

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

God is the most perfect being that we can imagine, and existence is certainly more perfect than nonexistence. Therefore, god must exist.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 04:30

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Nothing exists without an observer, the universe existed before humans could observe it. We only perceive time in a single direction, when in reality time and space are a single thing.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 04:37

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Where's Kyrie when you need him?

# ? Mar 10, 2015 04:39

Svaha: Oct 4, 2005

Behoooolldd the Atheist's Nightmare !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of90cKxSeuw

# ? Mar 10, 2015 04:45

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

The existence of the banana proves there is an indestructible element of my personality that will continue after death.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 04:49

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Svaha posted:

Behoooolldd the Atheist's Nightmare !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of90cKxSeuw

Someone as stupid as Kirk Cameron truly must be someones nightmare.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 04:56

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

katlington posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyyowgK5gCk

# ? Mar 10, 2015 07:53

Matoi Ryuko: Jan 6, 2004

CommieGIR posted:

Where's Kyrie when you need him?

Hell. May god rest his soul.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 08:38

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Strudel Man posted:

God is the most perfect being that we can imagine, and existence is certainly more perfect than nonexistence. Therefore, god must exist.

David Benatar posted:

It is uncontroversial to say that
1)The presence of pain is bad
and that
2)The presence of pleasure is good

However, such symmetrical evaluation does not seem to apply to the absence of pain and pleasure, for it strikes me as true that
3)The absence of pain is good even if that good is not enjoyed by anyone,
whereas
4)The absence of pleasure is not bad unless there is somebody for whom that absence is a deprivation.

Nonexistence is more perfect than existence.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 11:16

Rush Limbo: Sep 5, 2005; its with a full house

SedanChair posted:

Actually both logic and mathematics rest on just a few foundational assumptions that we can never really seem to prove as true, we just look at each other nervously and say "that makes sense." And that's where God lives, inside a little stone house with a chimney puffing away.

Didn't Bertrand Russell set out to prove the fundamentals of mathematics? I seem to remember he published work that proved that 1 + 1 = 2, which seems kind of silly but it's the sort of thing that is quite important, otherwise everything is hosed.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 11:51

MOLLUSC: Nov 30, 2005

A = A therefore God is real.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 11:59

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

MOLLUSC posted:

A = A therefore God is real.

I can see you have met Matt Slick before.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 13:07

Stottie Kyek: Apr 26, 2008; fuckin egg in a bun

Skeesix posted:

This is actually an interesting thought experiment. What would undeniable proof of the existence of God look like? If you don't already believe, what wouldn't just make you think you were going insane? What would be strong enough to convince everyone but gentle enough not to make people lose touch with reality?

I don't know what would make me believe. But if God does exist and it knows everything about us, it must know what it would take to make all of us believe and it's chosen not to reveal itself. Maybe it has a good reason not to reveal itself, or maybe it just doesn't mind one way or the other if people don't believe in it. If it really did create us, then it deliberately made us without the ability to clearly perceive it. If it does turn out to be real I hope it doesn't punish us for that.

CommieGIR posted:

Someone as stupid as Kirk Cameron truly must be someones nightmare.

I keep getting him mixed up with the Goatman, Kirk Johnson.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 13:27

Numlock: May 19, 2007; The simplest seppo on the forums

I refuse to believe a species as awful as humanity could arise out of natural processes.

There has to be somebody to blame!

# ? Mar 10, 2015 13:36

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Skeesix posted:

This is actually an interesting thought experiment. What would undeniable proof of the existence of God look like? If you don't already believe, what wouldn't just make you think you were going insane? What would be strong enough to convince everyone but gentle enough not to make people lose touch with reality?

Consistent, functional experience with obvious divine intervention, intelligence in every facet of human design, and the existence of life after death would probably convince me that, if not god, then something at least functionally similar to god exists.

Even if god did exist, he's so elusive and so much of the stuff about him is obviously made up by people that there is no way a thing that exists and has consistently existed for thousands of years would meet everyone's ideal expectations of what god is.

A practical skeptic's point of view should probably be that anything functionally similar to god is enough cause for adjusting your life priorities. If it's going to send you to hell for annoying it, it doesn't greatly matter whether it's god or not, it may be practical to do as it tells you.

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