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I have a different question about Animal Therapy, actually. If you have two Rovers, and both have the skill, do their collective ranks stack? And if so, is there increased benefit from having a hound and falcon out at the same time?
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Rangpur posted:I have a different question about Animal Therapy, actually. If you have two Rovers, and both have the skill, do their collective ranks stack? And if so, is there increased benefit from having a hound and falcon out at the same time? No. If you have two Rovers that know the skill, the game just uses whatever the highest level between them is.
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Final boss down, party level 60. Fought it completely blind, won on the second try. Some endgame thoughts: The whole fifth stratum kinda comes out of nowhere and then all of a sudden you're fighting the ultimate darkness blah blah blah, hell there's literally no explanation for the final boss save what Arken tells you in the room. Fight itself got very dicey a few times, I had a lot of trouble recovering when one or two people got killed. I attribute much of my success to the first and only time Altar ever landed its petrify component (though I only started using it around the 5th stratum and only in FOE fights) buying me a few badly needed rounds of damage and healing. Helm Splitter pairs obscenely well with Petrify.  e: also real mad about the miasma doing flat damage which instakilled my turrets  Stuck my head into the 6th stratum for a bit, but I dunno if I'm going to push through it or if I will begin the DESCENT INTO MADNESS and try a loving Harbinger SCC or something 
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Nov 1, 2017 01:24
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A Magical Lamp posted:I found that too, 4th stratum has a weirdly high encounter rate. It feels like it. I'm stuck in this little area where I gotta break four boulders and this worm+dog combo keep trapping me. It's butts.
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Nov 1, 2017 01:56
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The Hex union skill + party-wide elemental attacks from a shaman + chain killer from my fencer results in a turn of serious rear end whooping.
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edit: deleted cos I can't make the spoiler bar work for whatever reason
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Aerofallosov posted:It feels like it. I'm stuck in this little area where I gotta break four boulders and this worm+dog combo keep trapping me. It's butts. Lure the dog away in another room. Then enter the worm room from another door. It has two entrances. I don't actually remember how I solved it, but the dog wasn't in the same room at least.
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Handgun Phonics posted:Does Healing Up apply to the passive heals the Hound does every turn, or the party-wide effect on Animal Therapy? Or is it only for Aid Command / Guard Command? The latter. Animal Therapy for whatever reason actually comes from the Rover and is affected by their WIS.
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Nov 1, 2017 06:33
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Lmao the Primordiphant fight A second Buster Cannon user? When I have Tombstone Vice? Aw game, you shouldn't have.
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Nov 1, 2017 06:37
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edit: Nevermind I figured it out immediatly after posting.
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Nov 1, 2017 09:56
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blizzardvizard posted:Lmao the Primordiphant fight A couple of the postgame fights are hilarious because they're like gifts for specific party comps. Got a disable-heavy party where you can deal a ton of damage to disabled enemies (Chain Killer, Leading Blow, Frigid Reap, etc.)? Have fun laughing your rear end off as you completely demolish Dryad.
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Nov 1, 2017 14:15
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The final boss' miasma penatrates through aigis shield. Hmm. I guess that makes sense? Talk about ouch.
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Nov 1, 2017 14:26
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Probably works like curse damage, which I'm pretty sure penetrates Aegis Shield too.
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Aerofallosov posted:It feels like it. I'm stuck in this little area where I gotta break four boulders and this worm+dog combo keep trapping me. It's butts. I think you have to kill them.
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A Magical Lamp posted:I think you have to kill them. You don't. You lead the dog away in another room, enter the room from the front and then do the worm puzzle. But if you can kill them the end of the floor is right there. At least I think that's how it is. Pretty sure I never killed them. Got caught by a bunch of 5th stratum FOEs and killed them though. Also, beat the final boss. Success. I actually brought the Answerer for my chainer. He did lots with chain killer, but so did my harbinger. Black Blade is so good. Blademaster_Aio fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Aerofallosov posted:It feels like it. I'm stuck in this little area where I gotta break four boulders and this worm+dog combo keep trapping me. It's butts. If it's the room I'm thinking of, remember that you can make the dog dudes teleport away. Actually you can do that to the worm, too, which I did completely accidentally.
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Harrow posted:If it's the room I'm thinking of, remember that you can make the dog dudes teleport away. Ahahaha I actually though about doing that, but things like that you can 95% screw up. Because I'm sure it involves battling. Anyway, I remembered wrong, the key is to lure the dog on the teleporter tile without teleporting yourself. You obviously can't do this if you entered this room from the south side. You have to enter from the north because the teleporter is there.
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I should probably stop making new characters. Most everyone in the guild is still equipped with stuff from halfway through the 3rd stratum. I'm on 18F.
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Blademaster_Aio posted:Ahahaha Nope, you can do it by breaking the upper crystals strategically, it's great.
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Nov 1, 2017 15:53
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I don't think any of the FOE 'puzzles' ever require you to fight them, even just to retreat on the first turn. However there are a couple where you'll probably be cutting it pretty close, and an encounter at the wrong time can seriously mess you up. Then there are cases where you'd have to leave the floor and come back, either to reset a couple obstacles, or because you need sunlight (in the case of the 3rd stratum). Which is usually when I get fed up and just make a break for it. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes.
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Meh, I just got super tired of it by the end of the 5th stratum and just beat them up. What a pain 
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same. I don't remember the puzzles being this bad in eo4
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Nov 1, 2017 16:14
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This game definitely puts more weight on FOE puzzles than EO4 did, and it loves to put them together on the final floor of a stratum to see if you can navigate all their different rules simultaneously. I have mixed feelings about it, myself. I do like FOE puzzles but relying too heavily on them can get pretty tiring.
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I just skipped B5's puzzle by killing the FOEs I already murdered in the demo. Sounds like I'll be doing more of that.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:28
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By the 5th stratum, FOEs shouldn't really take that long to kill anyway. I just killed everything for the exp anyway.
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sanctum 2/3/4 aren't that bad. It's only 5 where it becomes a chore to play dodge simulator in every room.
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Right so, I made it to the 6th stratum. I also received a plot accessory that grants both strength and intelligence, who do I give it to? I rested my shaman into a punisher for the final boss, but I'm re-resting them back to a herald again. So who else?
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I'm okay with the balance they've struck thus far. It has a loooong way to go before it reaches the level of Persona Q. Then again I haven't reached the teleport puzzles everyone loves so much on 19 & 20F so that may change. 
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I actually liked the teleport puzzles a lot, especially when you start using the teleporters against FOEs.
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the teleporting isn't that bad. you just shift further to where you're facing. easy peasy and can be solved with simple usage of the single directional arrows.
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Is the Cradle Edge the best scythe, or is there an even better one I should aim to get for my Harbinger?
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Blademaster_Aio posted:Right so, I made it to the 6th stratum. I still have no idea who should get that accessory so I just chucked it in storage. Maybe on buster cannon dragoon if it affects the fire damage?
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It doesn’t. As far as I know all attacks are either totally STR or totally INT. Nobody can really make much use of that accessory’s full stats honestly.
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a bow using smoke botanist
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Could also be good for divine punisher shaman since some of the oracles run off int and some off strength I think.
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KonvexKonkav posted:Could also be good for divine punisher shaman since some of the oracles run off int and some off strength I think. None of the Oracle skills use STR, but Punisher Shamans do have one STR-based melee attack. That said, their INT-based and STR-based attacks are sorta mutually exclusive. They all require the Shaman to dispel buffs, either on themselves or others, and the STR-based one (Invoke Gods) requires the Shaman to dispel three buffs from themself. So you're either going to build up to Invoke Gods, in which case your INT doesn't matter, or you're using Dance/Mana Oracle, in which case your STR doesn't matter.
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Yeah, I was thinking of Invoke Gods when I wrote this. Wasn't sure about it though since I use a Herald Shaman.
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I got so bored of Hell Slash that I decided to remake my party from the ground up and then I promptly couldn't decide what I wanted my new party to be about. 
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Kanos posted:I got so bored of Hell Slash that I decided to remake my party from the ground up and then I promptly couldn't decide what I wanted my new party to be about. I'm gonna suggest the total opposite: Impact Pugilist nuke party. None of this chaser poo poo, no fancy multi-hit moves, just punch things as hard as possible and do it right the first time. Get an Impact Pugilist, a Dragoon to protect them, maybe throw in some passive Shaman healing, and fill the other two slots with whatever you want. (Second Pugilist to bind and save the Impact Pugilist time by using Overexertion for them? Blade Master Masurao to Armor Pierce? Deathguard Harbinger to debuff poo poo into the ground? Throw a Rover in there for the hell of it?)
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Harrow posted:Is the Cradle Edge the best scythe, or is there an even better one I should aim to get for my Harbinger? It probably is the best in terms of damage. I love my +LUC scythe so much I don't want to let it go just yet.
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