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LORD OF BUTT posted:e: Also, fairly sure Mrs. Urich has Alzheimer's. They really do not say but its end of life stuff
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Blackchamber posted:Will we ever come to a point where a super hero movie/show can be done realistically/gritty without saying they are just ripping off Nolan? What makes it even better is that they are both using Frank Miller material.
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Apr 15, 2015 15:36
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The best thing is how Kingpin has always been like this. You can gently caress with his business, but god help you if you gently caress with Vanessa. She has actually been the cause of him going into self imposed exile a couple of times. They also point out that he often looks the fool, as no one will suspect him. He is cold calculating and if you gently caress with him then all bets are off.
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Apr 16, 2015 19:17
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Shageletic posted:She's always played an ambigious figure in the comics, like a more sympathetic Carmelo Soprano (is that too much)? Hope the eventual season 2 (which HAS to happen) covers that ground. Daredevil never really sure where she stands. She also is a contender for Mother of the Year!
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Apr 16, 2015 19:26
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Snak posted:The whole Marvel Netflix/MCU franchise is going to get me buying comics again like a huge nerd. Thank god I only read Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and not a bunch of mainstream stuff... There is a connection 
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Apr 17, 2015 19:36
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zoux posted:That's odd, I wonder what's behind that. I was kind of hoping that we'd see Ulrich across all five series as he has ties to street level stories but nope! I assume since you think that he is safe and has plot armor.
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Apr 21, 2015 16:17
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Stumpus posted:For someone who reads absolutely no comic material, the death of Urich was something that made complete sense to me, and would have felt odd otherwise. There was no significance attached to him beyond an over the hill motivator for the blonde girl (I still don't know her name and I watched every episode recently, LOL!!!!!!!!). The only reason I knew he had some other significance was because of this thread. Oh do not worry Fisk will return and he will be effectual
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Apr 21, 2015 16:27
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zoux posted:For one thing she's best friends with Jessica Drew and Carol Danvers, and I don't think either of those characters are gonna be in the show. They have Patty Walker in it instead.
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Apr 21, 2015 18:29
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Snak posted:~$70 is a little steep... Immortal Iron Fist by Ed Brubaker and Matt Fraction with artist by David Aja
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Apr 21, 2015 18:34
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surc posted:*Why was it retarded? let me restate the part of my post you did not quote in clearer ways:The kingpin killing him while he has a history of being one of the few reporters who doesn't drag family members through the mud in his stories (See: that conversation with the mobster in the scene we're introduced to Urich in) which the kingpin is probably aware of considering how much else he has on Urich is loving retarded and hurts both characters. Why would the kingpin expect him to do anything that would compromise his mom when he has a history of doing exactly the opposite? Killing him off also means that they are messing with a bunch of potential plot-arcs from the comic that Ben Urich plays important roles in (Alias/Jessica Jones as well). They can write around it, but it's just loving retarded shock-value/raising the stakes, which is kind of a classic way for the "kill off the token black character" to go. Yeah but Fisk was never shown to be rational when it comes to people he thinks can hurt his family/girlfriend. He does not care that Ben is not writing about his family, he visited her when he worked so hard to hide her. They were also told that he was going to die, so it did not matter what race he was he was going to die no matter what. They killed him to show that characters you think are safe are not. Who knows what they plan to do with Karen, but they did give one of his defining attributes to Foggy. Remember Foggy did not figure it out until around issue 350, Ben knew in the 100s.
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Apr 21, 2015 18:46
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Then when it comes to organized crime killing him would cause a power vacuum and someone worse could take power.
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Apr 21, 2015 20:27
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BiggerBoat posted:That's what she wants you to think. They can always bring in Sally Floyd! She can ask Matt when the last time he went to Nascar and watched a YouTube clip!
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Apr 21, 2015 21:05
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The Sharmat posted:All the stuff with Ben Urich made me wonder how they could do JJ for Spiderman believably, given that in this decade New Yorkers would post thousands of pictures of Spiderman on the internet every day, taken with cellphone cameras. They had Peter working in IT in the Ultimate Universe.
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Apr 22, 2015 04:16
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^^ I doubt it. They might have him in jail pulling the strings as they mentioned Elektra and Bullseye for season 2Happy Noodle Boy posted:This is all I want out of season 2 That would be like season 5 or 6. Season 2 Elektra, 3 Born again 4 Bendis run 5 Bru run 6 Waids.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:04
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Snak posted:Well yeah, I was just using a general term for escaping justice in general, because it's hard to know what direction they are going to go yet. He is the Kingpin of crime. He is going to get someone to take the blame for it as he is just an innocent man who was trying to save the neighborhood.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:10
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Snak posted:Maybe he'll pin it all on Wesley. Or Leland Owlsley
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Apr 22, 2015 17:18
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NutritiousSnack posted:Going to say while I like Waid's run, it isn't actually "great". He just broke the trend and livened things up with a lighter take, giving some breathing room before we go back to Grim and Dark stuff. Can't really remember a great storyline. TV wise it wouldn't fit themes and mood of the show, which is fine for a comic book run or film series...is really, really bad for a tv series. There is the whole poo poo with Bullseye
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Apr 22, 2015 19:15
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Wolpertinger posted:I just hope that killing Ben was enough for them to let Karen live instead, because it'll be irritating to have a great female character around that's just a ticking time bomb till she gets fridged. Oh do not worry she still gets to Sell Matt's identity for some heroin. then the fridging.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:34
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Kurtofan posted:I've looked up some Daredevil villains and found one called Typhoid Mary, from her wikipedia page: Well she has three personalities. One is nice, the other sort of crazy, and the third is holy gently caress batshit insne.
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Apr 22, 2015 19:37
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DivisionPost posted:I wouldn't be shocked if they have plans for Karen besides that. The fact that it looked like they were about to fridge Vanessa, only to juke into Wesley getting gunned down by Karen, tells me they see a little more potential in the female characters than most comic book writers. Frank Miller has a very special view of women.
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Apr 22, 2015 20:13
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Deadpool posted:Danny can be serious when the time calls for it, but he's a fun character most of the time and does joke around quite a bit. Especially when around Luke Cage. Its still crazy to think that Luke Cage is going to be involved in the next three series plus Defenders.
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Apr 22, 2015 20:47
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Tom Tucker posted:edit: also this show is amazing and if it doesn't get a second season, and just gets absorbed into the MCU I'll be bummed. How can it absorbed into something its already part of?
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Apr 24, 2015 04:44
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Phylodox posted:Daredevil is basically The Wire if McNulty was a ninja. The suspect is most likely a white male in his late twenties to late thirties, who is a college graduate, but feels superior to those with the ability to see, and is likely employed in a bureaucratic entity, possibly civil or public service. He has a problem with authority and a deep-seated resentment for those that have impeded his progress professionally. The sexual nature of the killings is thought to be a secondary motivation and the lack of DNA or saliva in the bite marks suggests possible postmortem staging. He may be struggling with lasting relationships and potentially a high functioning alcoholic with alcohol being used as a trigger in the crimes. The suspect’s apparent resentment of the homeless may indicate a previous personal relationship with a homeless person or the targeting may simply be an opportunity for the killer to assert his superiority and intellectual prowess."
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Apr 24, 2015 06:04
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Snak posted:I know this one. He's killing homeless people and draining their blood because someone he cared about got an infection during a blood transfusion because of tainted blood. The only person he cared for that this happened to was infected not by a homeless person but her cousin. (He still banged her and it was after the transfusion)
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Apr 24, 2015 06:08
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Snak posted:I was actually describing the pilot of Forever Knight Oh I was talking about a way to bring in She Hulk.
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Apr 24, 2015 06:16
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Xealot posted:In some alternative reality, Michael K. Williams is Luke Cage. He already was in Hulk.
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Apr 24, 2015 15:53
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surc posted:Your avatar made me realize that the real question now becomes: How long do we have to wait after these shows are wildly successful to get the Hawkeye show we all wish we deserved? When the last issue is released.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:22
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Snak posted:Haha what? I don't know who that character is, but Stick was talking to him about Black Sky, right? I'm thinking he's a little more on the mystical-ninja-warlord side of things than what we think of as organized crime. It is Stone. He is higher up than Stick in their little ninja group. I was joking about how the last issue has been delayed so so much. There is already another Hawkeye series running and the old one has not ended yet. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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Apr 24, 2015 16:33
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Snak posted:I've heard that in this thread, but I don't know who that is. I generally avoid going on a wiki-rampage about character's i'm not familiar with in new adaptations. That way if they don't do anything really inventive, I still get to learn about the character naturally from the story. Wiki open season on characters I know, like Kingpin. The way that he is on the show and the comics is he is Stick's higher up in their little group.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:38
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dj_clawson posted:The comics are actually down to his granddaughter now. She was a recent villian in Matt's San Francisco adventures. Right now she is his ally
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Apr 30, 2015 20:00
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dj_clawson posted:Wasn't she the one who blinded over half of San Francisco? To be fair I read that graphic novel REALLY fast when I was in Barnes and Noble today. That was in the future. Currently Matt is helping her save him, and since he is Matt Murdoch his life has gone to hell and he is asking help from the Kingpin.
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Apr 30, 2015 20:07
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Burning_Monk posted:Not in the last comic I read, he just decided to nix the costume and go with a flamboyant red business suit and now is lawyer'ing it up as Daredevil [Esq.] Read this weeks.
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Apr 30, 2015 21:28
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PantsBandit posted:Daredevil is blind Jack Bauer. Jack Bauer already has a superhero costume 
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May 1, 2015 18:36
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I was kind of expecting this to be one of those "blown out of proportion" things but, uh...nope. Nope it's just some weird-rear end poo poo, straight up. I can't even parse this logically, so I can only assume that this was a time in the Marvel offices where everybody was high on loving something. Cocaine, maybe. Or printer ink. It's both rapacious, incestuous, and seemingly pointless. Why even? To what end does this serve, to have Ms. Marvel leave the Avengers? Surely she could have just, I dunno, broken a leg or something? It was the editor in chief at the time who wrote it, who was writing comics since he was 14 years old. This storyline was so bad that a writer created a character named Rogue and during a fight between the two, Carol had everything about her erased. The plot was so bad that the only way to save her was to start her from zero. The Karen poo poo was just Kevin Smith trying to doing his version of Born Again but making it all edgy. It was a bad storyline and the only reason that its not ignored is due to the fact its Kevin Smith and later writers used some elements and created better stories.
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May 5, 2015 15:44
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Luke Cage is the reason why Nicolas Coppola chose the name Cage
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May 5, 2015 17:43
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dj_clawson posted:It has stretched them creatively, and Waid's done a great job with it, but sooner or later they're going to need a reset. Its been out there for 14 years and its still going strong.
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May 8, 2015 15:16
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Omnomnomnivore posted:Man Without Fear from the mid-90s already feels like a parody of his earlier stuff (no adaptation will ever have young Matt accidentally kill a prostitute). I also really don't like Romita Jr.'s art. It turns out that she did not die and was infact Typhoid Mary!
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May 10, 2015 17:52
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BiggerBoat posted:I agree. Urich's character is central to DD and I'm wondering how they'll go about replacing him. Killing him was a huge mis-step because, for one thing, the writers have missed out on the "Ben discovers Matt is DD" storyline. He was great character. If they needed to kill someone for the sake of drama, they could have Wilson off his wife in the hospital or something like that. Then Ben throws himself even further into the story, newly motivated, discovers Matt is DD, etc. and finds himself in danger. They have Foggy for that, as Ben knew a long time before Foggy.
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May 19, 2015 17:25
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BiggerBoat posted:True, but if you've read the comics you know that Urich is the first one to discover that Matt is DD, has the story, could make a lot of money with it and then decides to sit on it. It creates a lot of dramatic tension and moral ambiguity that the think the writers will miss out on by killing off Ben. Foggy is RIGHT THERE in Matt's world and is with him all the time. Ben is (was) an investigative journalist operating through the looking glass with what's becoming an outdated sense of journalistic integrity. They might use that cop friend.
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We already have that character arc in House of Cards and it ended the same for both characters.
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