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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Steve Yun posted:

Sure sure, but there was stuff in Year One that I don't remember in Miller's Daredevil run that was in this show, like him being surrounded by the cops in the derelict building

Difference being Batman's had to take the whole squad out and (I think) keep them all alive. Daredevil just snuck away after fighting two of them.

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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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PunkBoy posted:

I'm curious if Daredevil and the Agents of SHIELD team were aware that they would both have fights with a guy wielding a knife-chain. I wouldn't exactly call it a common kind of fight scene, but I'm guessing it was just a really funny coincidence.

It's always seemed to me knives-on-chains are of the most common of movie ninja-fight weapons.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Darth Ballz posted:

Noooooo! We don't need another show to utilize the "hot female friend who is an internet blogger" trope. I think every super hero show ever has had one (except Agent Carter, naturally). Surely, the writers can be tasked to give her more to do than just be that or a damsel in distress.

Why would she need to be a blogger? She's done nothing up until now that has been blogger-worthy, instead doing hard research and investigating. Why would you assume that would change?

She'd been very proactive in finding things out, instead of having those facts arrive on her doorstep.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Aphrodite posted:

She's a former porn star.

She's an anti-vaxxer.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Sorvah posted:

Makes you wonder who is making the biggest difference, people like Cap protecting the world from threats it never knows about or people like Daredevil who are stopping that kid getting sold to slavers.

Well, I mean, if Cap is keeping the world from getting blown up, however secret that is...

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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tsob posted:

Maybe he's just wearing a helmet because it's still the law and if he didn't wear one he'd inevitably be pulled over by some cop who doesn't know him for not wearing one. Better to just put it on and ride in peace frankly. Also, I was watching Brooklyn 99 last night and I'm kind of sad that Terry Crews didn't get cast as Luke. I've never seen Mike Colter in anything to pass judgement on the guy, but he just doesn't have quite the same physical presence as Terry and that seems to be handy in a guy with superhuman strength and durability.

Dude, Mike's a big loving dude. I'm sure he's been suckin' down creatine like a hooker on holiday pay so he's even bigger than normal.

He's also pretty darn present in shows like Good Wife, his character's almost a Wilson Fiskish type dude. I'm really looking forward to seeing Netflix's take on superpowers and poo poo. I think they cast a good dude to be Cage. I wonder if they tried to save some money during Daredevil's stuff to help with the obviously more expensive CGI required for super-stuff.

What were some of the more notable Luke Cage villains and plots?

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Deadpool posted:

Well since he's the only one missing that actually was part of SHIELD yes it was something that people were wondering.

I think people may have been wondering that only in the same way you wonder if the fish you had last night is responsible for the diarrhea that's dribbling out right now.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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bobkatt013 posted:

There was also the case of Tony blowing up all his armor and getting the surgery.

What surgery?

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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(could you tell the difference between someone wearing a pair of sunglasses versus a supernatural blind dude wearing sunglasses? Motorcycle visor? Mirrored shades? Goggles? How on earth would anyone assume a dude who is beating the gently caress out of people and sprinting over the skyline and dodging bullets be blind?

LORD OF BUTT posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uybTJ7kUdb4

The blind people narration is seriously really cool, guys

Haha that's pretty great.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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dj_clawson posted:

I was a fan of whenever the comic touched on this - which was rarely, and only if the writer was interested in blind culture - and it was one of the few things that stood out about the movie. Like how does Matt pick his suits? (they're labeled by color) How does Matt use money? (They're folded differently) They had a blind guy on set as an advisor, talking about how stuff in the movie was written after stories he told to the crew. He talks in the making of doc, which is funny unto itself because you see what a disaster it becomes as it goes along in development because the director was so incredibly bad at his job and they hoped they could fix it all in post, and they couldn't.

All of that stuff Matt Murdock would be doing only to keep up appearances. In public. Nothing he did at home would need to be that way.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Steve Yun posted:

Narrator seems to think Sergei is pronounced Sir Gay.

You do pronounce it like that, though - with some inconsequential variances.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Snak posted:

Yeah, the acting in this show is pretty great, and the dialogue is great, and the thematic elements of the stories are great, but the weakest part is definitely that Matt's plan is literally just beat the poo poo out of people until the crime is gone. I was hoping there would be some decent legal drama element to the show, and there really wasn't.

A vigilante wouldn't need to be a vigilante if there were better ways to put the bad guy away.

The whole point of the show was that Kingpin was/is untouchable legally, and Matt as Daredevil was slowly poking through his defenses one hosed up, overheard rumor at a time.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Kheldarn posted:

Also, on a personal level, I would have preferred it if Netflix did one episode a week. I like having everyone seeing an episode at the same time, and being able to talk about it, and speculate. But, that's not the Netflix way. I'll just have to adapt.

Just think of it like we all watched an extra long movie, not a TV show.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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PaganGoatPants posted:

It'd be nice if they experimented with it on one show.

Just not one I want to watch.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Snak posted:

Some good courtroom justice in the show would help counteract it. Part of the concept of Daredevil is, that as Lawyer he literally tries to use legal means, and if he can't he uses violence. We see him save Karen, but not really through being a great lawyer. Mostly it seemed like the law was ultimately useless and violence was always the answer.
I think another issue with going the legal route during season 1 is that theoretically Kingpin was paying off lots of people. Hopefully in S2 (right RIGHT?!?! :ohdear:) we can see Matt have more workable legal efforts.


I mean, the end of S1 was basically the city purging itself of all the bought off people and government employees and politicians..

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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PaybackJack posted:

The worst part of this show for me is that they had to actually go and call him Daredevil at the end. "Devil of Hell's Kitchen" is a much cooler name and just casually referring to him as 'Devil would have been enough like they do with Arrow not actually being called Green Arrow. I loved how despite being in the same shared universe and happening after Avengers, nothing other than Daredevil was super powered. Nobody had goofy code names, they never even called Fisk the Kingpin that I recall. When he fought and got his rear end kicked by the ninja it was all completely in line with everything else because he wasn't some Hand super ninja, he was just another well trained fighter. Probably a better fighter other than his inability to realize he was covered in flammable liquid.


Except Daredevil is his name. They're allowed to use it, so why wouldn't they? That's saying, "Man, I'm so glad nobody's calling Batman Batman, or noone's saying Ironman." Like, That's the character's name.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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PaybackJack posted:

I'm pretty happy with the other comic book shows, I just thought that was kind of the wrong direction to take this show by the end of it given how it didn't really feel anything like a comic book show up until the end.

It felt very much like a comic book show, though.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Boogaleeboo posted:

His costume in the beginning is too much like what Iron Fist wears, so they need to look different if they team up. Wouldn't want everyone on the drat team looking the exact same.

One would be white, one black. That'd be prettty cool.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Boogaleeboo posted:

Iron Fist is green and yellow! And the white and black mix comes from his heterosexual life partnership with Luke Cage and their not at all beard-like romantic partners.

No no, I'm pretty sure it's blue and black.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Maduo posted:

It's definitely candle wax, you can get a good look at it dripping when they zoom in on the watertower.

The suit looks great but I worry it might have the superhero suit problem of restricting the actor's movement too much. It looked like it might have the stiff neck problem you hear about Batman suits getting. It's hard to tell from the 5 minutes we get to see it in action.

Nah, it really seemed like there's a whole lot of elastic cloth around the neck. I think he can movie fine with it. It's just bulk.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Shageletic posted:

Oh! Knew I forgot to add one thing to my essay above, but look at actual criminal masterminds. Not the most calculating people. Brutal, yes. Crafty, sure. But supervillain cool, with a cat on their laps? Hell no.

Capone was a syphillitic halfwit.

But how am I supposed to empathize with Wilson Fisk if he's not an awesome cold-blooded genius cool-under-fire badass ladies man like myself?

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Steve Yun posted:

I thought it did get a bit much with how sappy it got, but at the same time I have to admit I got choked up when Vanessa woke up in the hospital and Fisk was blaming himself for her condition.

That's how he gets so fat later on. Always tasting her food before each meal.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Snak posted:

My biggest gripe about his powers being too good is when he can tell there are two road flares in a box that is not nearby. Being able to tell that there are road flares I can see, because he can probably smell the magnesium, but how many?

Sonar imaging

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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His cotton shirts and pants are grey, his nylon/cotton blend shirts and pants are black, his silk ones are navy, et cetera. Hahaha.

I'm sure he could just as easily have a small tag or thread attached to each article of clothing with one or more stitches/knots representing a color. That's what I'd do if I were blind and had lots of clothes. :colbert:
(If I were blind I'd totally just wear Hawaiian tourist style clothes)

It's not quite the speed force but it's certainly Daredevil.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Phylodox posted:

At that point, why lie?

Foggy hadn't brushed his teeth or changed his clothes. He's a mess.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Snak posted:

I didn't mean it in the sense that he was lying. if Foggy ate lunch by himself 3 days ago, and has no reason to believe Matt knew what he ate, it's still an example of Matt's invasion of privacy and still demonstrates Matt's super powers. Maybe we are supposed to belief he can tell what people ate for lunch three days ago. That's fine. I just think there was enough ambiguity in that specific example that it's not clear cut.

No dude, he wasn't lying or exaggerating. He was literally saying he could smell his food. You people come up with the weirdest things.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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CelestialScribe posted:

Loved the show but holy crap, the actors who played both Wilson and Karen were awful.

Wilson had this weird vocal thing going on, and the girl who played Karen thinks that if you make your voice waver and break, that means you have emotion. Thea on Arrow has the same problem.

The show also took a dive in quality towards the end, especially with dialogue. It avoided stupid corny moments at the start then relied on then more and more.

Overall pretty good though.

?

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Xealot posted:

Fisk kissing Wesley on the forehead is such a disarming moment, after finding his body. It's so tragic, in a way I definitely didn't expect.

He's like, "if only you'd have let me crush this beauty in a door."

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Darth Ballz posted:

Also, his raw strength and fighting ability.

I wouldn't say he's got a 'fighting ability' in the show. he fights like an angry fat kid. He's certainly not the 12th degree judo ninja that he is in the comics.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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The Sharmat posted:

For the middle part of the series? Probably. But apparently Kingpin was the guy with the plan, plus Wesley genuinely liked him in some kind of weird brotherly way and wanted him to have his day.

Seeing how they met is another thing I want out of season 2.

Daredevil & Kingpin season 2: Avocados in at Law, Parsley in Crime

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Should be an African dude instead.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Skeesix posted:

Similarly the weakest part of Pride and Prejudice and Zombies was the Ninjas.

To be fair that sounds like a bridge made of marshmallows to begin with.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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bobkatt013 posted:

How can it absorbed into something its already part of?

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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The Sharmat posted:

That kind of takes the sting out of the whole "Wait you could always tell when I was lying?" thing.

But he REALLY didn't like Matt's cupcakes he baked. He was just being nice. :(

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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ghostwritingduck posted:

Weren't they out drinking having fun when this came up, thus becoming an inside joke they later make recalling a time they were out having fun together?

Yes. They had been drunk as poo poo.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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His name is Foghorn. His father was Jonathan Leghorn.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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BiggerBoat posted:

How many friends do you have? Are they all as witty, funny, charming and sophisticated as you are?

He's probably got over a hundred on Facebook alone.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Deadpool posted:

That's not much of a retcon since it's pretty clear from the scene it is him. They showed the bag with the playing card on it for a reason.

AnonSpore posted:

But he missed.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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Hollismason posted:

Yeah, I thought it was just a easter egg and not really : This is Bullseye. Bullseye doesn't miss and wouldn't fail to kill someone.

The only person he can't get between his sights is the one person who can't see at all.

really makes you think.

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Oct 22, 2000

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Not MY Bullseye. :colbert:

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