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BravestOfTheLamps posted:But will the humour punch up instead of punching down? Really makes you think The political correctness gone mad crew out in full force today. enraged_camel posted:I just don't get why people like you have so much fun making GBS threads up TV/IV threads with their nonsense political correctness bullshit. I know it's threatening when people who don't agree with you express concerns that something might not be handled in the best way, but when you ragepost about it or get all glib and dismissive, you don't also get to claim that the person expressing concern is the one making GBS threads the thread up. I agree that the trailer looked great, and I'm hyped as all gently caress, but I am also concerned about how the show is going to handle PTSD. Those positions aren't mutually exclusive.
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And who is the arbiter of that difference? You? I've seen this a million times on the internet. Somebody voices concern. A million voices cry out "RACISM ISN'T A THING ANYMORE!" or some equally flagrantly false bullshit, and when the initial raiser of concern responds, you get to yell "STOP ARGUING! YOU'RE MAKING EVERYTHING HOSTILE!" But it wasn't them. It was the other people. And the blame gets shifted to somebody who just had a few misgivings about some poo poo. It's happening right now. You're doing it as we speak.
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Oct 23, 2015 23:40
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enraged_camel posted:Can you look at it from my perspective, please? I know nothing about Jessica Jones, I came into the thread looking for information about the show, and instead I have to wade through some loving bullshit debate about the show's portrayal of PTSD and whether it's politically correct.
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Oct 23, 2015 23:55
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:
Dude literally said that his position was that it sucked for him (or her) to read about peoples' opinions and feelings about the art he likes. His whole argument was basically that scrolling past other people's feelings was too hard for him. The other person's feelings were that a serious medical condition wouldn't be treated with respect by something he or she wanted to like. I didn't make it up. It's not even subtext. It's text. So your theory is that I would only defend somebody on the internet if it somehow related to my personal experience, and that furthermore, said defense would be invalidated BECAUSE it related to my personal experience. Ok, I guess? Like, I don't want to get super glib here, but I'm super glad I don't live in your bleak-rear end world. Furthermore, everybody had dropped it for a whole day, and you brought it back. So when you, or somebody like you inevitably start blaming the SJWs for ruining the thread, remember that. Because it's an incredibly important part of this argument that is widely ignored, and an integral part of my point. If you don't want to see pages of discussion about something, don't cause pages of discussion about something. Either nod your head, or shake it. But you don't get to be half of an argument, and blame the other half for the argument's very existence.
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Oct 25, 2015 10:03
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Yeesh, project a little harder. I cant quite picture whoever it is in your personal life that marginalizes your feelings on a regular basis
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:SJWs do it again. 
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Oct 25, 2015 10:35
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Gyges posted:I believe he exclusively refers to other super black ops team guys as "my boys" as well. He's like pure patriarchy. Becoming more and more unhinged as Jessica and Patsy subvert his power and authority. This show was deeply personal for me. I'm often painted as a gigantic SJW killjoy because I don't appreciate how a lot of shows deal with issues like this, and the responses I get that move beyond just  :jerkoff:, are often akin to "do you just want every show to be sunshine and rainbows? God, I hate that YOU PEOPLE always need to talk about this stuff."It happened in this very thread to a few people concerned with how the show was going to treat PTSD. So to have a show that talks about it, and treats it with respect, and isn't just "here's some shocking poo poo for shock value," it's a rare and incredible treat, and this was a genuine pleasure to watch.
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Nov 21, 2015 23:59
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HIJK posted:So basically all the people who said "watch the show before freaking out over the portrayals of trauma and aftermath" were proven correct and the handwringing amd teeth gnashing was all for nought? Imagine that. In any case, I was really hoping that (Complete season spoilers) Daredevil would show up, because I'm a sucker for split-universe stuff. But mentioning him, then having Jessica dismiss the idea of needing to meet him immediately really fit the show's narratives quite well. I left very pleased with not getting what I wanted. It would've been a huge cop-out for Matt Murdock or Daredevil to show up and fix a problem out of nowhere, and even though it would've been fun, the show reminded me why my idea was terrible.
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Nov 22, 2015 01:00
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The Sharmat posted:Or sometimes people don't agree and that's ok and you're really sensitive. Are any of you listening? I said it was good. Put down the pitchforks.
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Nov 22, 2015 01:53
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Jerusalem posted:There's a bit in Preacher where the bad guy sends foreigners against the protagonist, since his power is if he commands them to do something they MUST do it, but he only speaks American
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Nov 23, 2015 23:31
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The Sharmat posted:This show is not remotely PC and it's very cool. Lesbians and sex are two things that are also cool. Rush Limbaugh got to define what it was in the 90s, and we're all worse off for it.
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Nov 24, 2015 01:44
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The Sharmat posted:I too have words that frustrate me by no longer meaning what they used to mean for various sociopolitical reasons but you just gotta accept that words change meaning over time. 
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Nov 24, 2015 02:21
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This show is only related to Gamergate in the sense that nearly every woman on planet Earth has to deal with lovely and creepy dudes pretty much all the time, including women on the internet.
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Nov 25, 2015 01:53
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Junkfist posted:I'm upset the anal wasn't as implied as it was in the comic.
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Nov 25, 2015 03:07
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NowonSA posted:It's worth noting that Tennant could come back for another season or appearance if they really wanted to. It's not like we see his whole body messed up or cremated, and you can go with explanations ranging from "He told himself never to die and that let him survive" to "The Stem cells gave him super healing!" There's always good old flashbacks too.
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Nov 27, 2015 07:33
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tin can made man posted:I love how the Armchair Vigilantes in this thread seem to forget that the position of "He keeps killing people, so Jessica Jones needs to kill him you loving idiots!" was literally espoused, many many times, by the series' secondary villain. Like, do people think that Officer Nuke Simpson - the black ops badass who's always hangin with His Boys and looks like Captain America and argues "Why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker? What a pussy" - being a mentally-incapable, degenerate monster is an accident?
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Nov 27, 2015 19:20
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Guy Goodbody posted:That owns. I want somebody to do something like for Jessica Jones and Daredevil too
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Oct 13, 2016 06:04
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Lurdiak posted:They managed it in season 1! That guy was the ninjaest ninja ever, and he fit right in. Lone ninja: total badass. Many ninjas: total mooks. There is only so much ninja power to go around, and if you spread it too thin, all ninjas are basically just the putty patrol.
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Oct 13, 2016 06:29
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The important point was that somebody had a weapon that could hurt the invincible man. It doesn't really matter to the story what bullshitium they were made of, but they chose to tie it into Avengers 1 as a shorthand.
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Oct 14, 2016 07:06
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Boy, remember when Marvel Netflix was just Daredevil and Jessica Jones' first seasons and it looked like they couldn't do any wrong? The Hand's greatest victory was destroying several seasons of TV. And as has been said, being ninjas who are boring.
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Oct 11, 2018 22:27
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Oasx posted:Starting episode 7 and so far the season has been a big disappointment. There have been no really good fight scenes, the plot is boring, Dex is just not that interesting of a character, and the idea that Wilson Fisk is suddenly a master manipulator feels silly. The whole plot of Matt being wanted is just not very interesting. I really liked this season and thought it was a great return to form after the wet fart that was literally everything that had anything to do with The Hand.
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Oct 22, 2018 06:24
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They can absolutely say Captain America or Hulk. They just don't. It's stupid.
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Oct 23, 2018 03:07
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Lurdiak posted:Don't worry, Daredevil punched him a few times and that made all his blackmail and corruption of the system vanish.
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Oct 24, 2018 22:19
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sticklefifer posted:That team also had a dude with super incredible accuracy with a bow and arrow, so Bullseye using bullets and other objects to the same effect isn't really all that notable in their world.
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Nov 4, 2018 01:21
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One of the reasons you barely see negative portrayals of cops is that every exterior shot with guns or whatever requires officers on location to supervise. So, good luck getting the NYPD to cooperate with you on a show that acknowledges how loving awful cops are. Ditto with the US millitary.
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Nov 13, 2018 23:02
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The only thing I find profoundly disappointing about Daredevil outside of the obvious season 2 woes is the lack of courtroom drama. I had the same problem with Jessica Jones. Courtroom drama but with a superhero and private investigator drama but with superpowers are awesome premises that are getting wasted by getting lost in the superhero part.
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Nov 26, 2018 21:51
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I just wanted hard-drinkin, former superhero Veronica Mars.
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Nov 27, 2018 22:32
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Phenotype posted:maybe... maybe if they bundled all the streaming services together and just charged a high monthly rate for all of them and you couldn't opt out of any of them to save money  ?
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Nov 30, 2018 05:40
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Seems one of the things Disney bought from Fox was a propensity for cancelling popular genre shows.
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Dec 1, 2018 00:46
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Invalid Validation posted:They like money first and foremost and you can’t maximize that if you’re splitting it with another company.
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Dec 1, 2018 02:57
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Okay, so now there's rumors that Marvel cancelled Daredevil and not Disney.
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Dec 6, 2018 02:50
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Phenotype posted:What about LOSThahahhahahaha
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Dec 8, 2018 00:18
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Phenotype posted:Well, Lost's issue was that there was a lot unexplained. The island was a vague bottle (or was it the cork?). The weird stuff that happened was all just magic. Which is fine if your show was about the journey and not the destination, but that show went on for years and was one of the most talked-about and speculated-on shows in history, and they had to know that their audience was expecting solid explanations. It was kinda lovely to watch all these people try to connect the dots for all those years and it turns out all the dots just made up a scribble. The island is the source of life, death, and rebirth. This is stated in the show incredibly clearly, in those words, but people still go "but what was the island? This show sucks!" mostly because despite the show literally starting with a loving magic smoke monster, they thought everything would be explained by science when a clear goddamn throughline from like, episode four onward is that in order to grow, you need to have some measure of balance between science and faith. It was a magic island. Magic things can happen there. Battlestar Galactica had this exact same loving problem. It dealt with themes of faith and religion and people willfully ignored that, and then got mad whenever it came up and dismissed it as a hail mary by the writers or a plot hole when it had been present from the very beginning. Joe Chill posted:Viewers guessed the ending after the first season of Lost, which the creaters denied in an interview around that time. Joe Chill posted:Close, everyone was in purgatory was the big theory. The show's finale ended up more complicated than that but that's what basically happened. And people STILL thought it was purgatory. That's not on the show. The show straight-up said it wasn't purgatory. I am shocked, SHOCKED that this didn't happen more with Daredevil, honestly. Maybe it's because Matt's religion has been a part of the comics from the start so it wasn't a surprise when it became part of the show, and maybe it's because we're not given any concrete evidence that god exists in the show, but any time any show deals with religion, grognards get all insufferable about it. I'm a queer person on HRT. A TON religious people want me dead. I unabashedly hate religion for giving cover to lovely people who use a book that tells them to be nice as an excuse to murder people like me, but I don't get all militant atheist about the shows I watch dealing in faith and calling any act of god a plot hole. In the fiction of some shows, there is a god, and fine. Whatever.
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Joe Chill posted:Wow Vividliquid. I won't have brought up Lost if people are angry about it holy poo poo.
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Dec 9, 2018 03:39
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Vividliquid is pretty perceptive, I think.
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Dec 10, 2018 02:36
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By Blade 3 he was having other people do his scenes and wouldn't leave his trailer, so maybe reboot Blade, because Snipes is a massive diva.
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Dec 17, 2018 02:08
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Dr Christmas posted:I don't think we've seen the new breed of young, relatively affluent shithead reactionaries explored in popular fiction other than, what, that SVU episode about incels? Lord knows we've had enough triggered millennial snowflake SJW characters screeching about microsggressions to last a lifetime, even from liberal shows.
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Jan 7, 2019 07:52
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They made a show about a detective who never does any detective stuff.
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Jun 24, 2019 21:51
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Ubiquitous_ posted:At least we have Veronica Mars Season 4 coming out next month.
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Jun 24, 2019 22:11
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esperterra posted:She died in the movie. I rewatched the whole series, movie included, two months ago and I can barely remember the movie except how disappointed I was in Wallace for sticking around Neptune to be a loving gym teacher.
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No. None of the TV properties have anything to do with the movies anymore. The movie division even started its own second TV division which will, presumably, have something to do with the movies.
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