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I don't really know get why anybody is complaining about subs not being in. DDs fill the role of subs with the limiting factor on their invisibility being terrain and distance, rather than a top speed of 9 knots
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How is any of that better than just having a DD in a match? Carriers already break symmetry and kludge in extra stuff but at least they do things fundamentally different from the other ship classes
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Jul 21, 2015 23:27
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What are the first BBs for each side that won't scatter the shots from a single turret over and under or in front and behind your target at a reasonable distance? South Carolina and Kawachi both feel real awful
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Jul 27, 2015 02:11
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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:Pretty much all WW1/2 torpedos were one colour of dogshit or another. Which is why subs preferred to use the deck guns. Only American subs preferred to use deck guns (and even then, by 1944 when they started comprehensively destroying Japan's commercial shipping they had torpedoes that could actually explode when you wanted them to). American torpedoes were by far the worst in the war, the sheer size of the pacific ocean meant very little operational area was covered by land based aircraft, attrition rates among Japanese escort rates were astonishing and Japanese ASW capabilities were the worst of all the naval belligerents in the war and most especially the Japanese merchant marine never adopted convoys as a comprehensive strategy. German subs very much did not prefer to use deck guns atelier morgan fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Jul 27, 2015 18:27
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radintorov posted:I highly recommend to anyone interested to read about the Mark 14 torpedoes the US subs were saddled with in WW2. Japanese ASW equipment and doctrine was unbelievably, shockingly and ruinously bad. At least as bad as Mark 14 torpedoes, maybe even worse considering that it never got better and they just kept being incredibly incompetent until they had basically no tankers afloat at all.
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Jul 27, 2015 19:03
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Night10194 posted:What did they do so wrong? Japanese escorts were not equipped with surface-search radar and their land based ASW aircraft did not start using them until 1945, so spotting surfaced subs was a purely visual matter. Escorts and ASW aircraft were usually unable to coordinate by radio (because Japanese radios were awful) and their ASW aircraft usually only flew with a single 250kg depth charge or two 60kg depth charges (whereas a PBY Catalina equipped for ASW could carry up to ~1,800kg of depth charges, and ASW B-17s even more). Their depth charges were also obsolescent with fuses that had only a few settings and couldn't be dialed to any depth. They had reasonably good sonar, but no ASW ships were equipped with equipment for measuring the ocean temperature, so they couldn't see the thermocline layer that dramatically impacts sonar effectiveness. They never developed rocket-propelled ASW weapons like the hedgehog, so still had to get right on top of a submarine to drop depth charges. In doctrine, they had an institutional tendency to assume that if they dropped depth charges and didn't hear the sub afterwards that they had killed the sub and just moved on as part of the IJN's general excess of optimism (also a contributing factor to their awful damage control methods, which helped the disaster at midway) rather than continuing to attack, so a lot of American subs got away when German or Japanese subs would be destroyed by their more persistent opponents. And of course, most absurdly and dramatically, the Japanese merchant marine never adopted convoys as a doctrine and only used them on an ad hoc basis. wdarkk posted:The thing that immediately springs to mind is that until a US newspaper spilled the beans, they had only two depth settings on their depth charges. So the subs would just sit between those two. They had five, approximately every 100 ft down to 500 ft.
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Jul 27, 2015 19:22
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:Every second I spent in the Kawachi was utter agony , but I have my Myogi now though it's not much better. At least I can shoot at stuff further than 10km. Should I give up on Japanese BB and just go USA for the Wyoming or something? South Carolina's not any better I can only hope the wyoming is a light at the end of the tunnel and not another, even deeper, tunnel when i get there
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Jul 27, 2015 23:04
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Psychosis 01 posted:Driving a Bogue is one of the worst experiences you can have in this game. judging from how CVs play the game I'd have to say that driving seems like an exaggeration for sitting stock still through the entire match and ignoring the minimap then complaining in chat about how poo poo your team is when blown up by a destroyer half the map away from the other 14 ships
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Jul 29, 2015 16:44
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also took less than a week for some (christian) guy with a wehraboo name to solicit reports for my username in allchat
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Jul 29, 2015 16:46
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Michaellaneous posted:How much that Wargaming will actually force you to change it? War Thunder guys did (in that one it was a report by a guy with a rommel name) so pretty likely
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Jul 29, 2015 16:58
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What's the story with the FOG thing
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Jul 29, 2015 17:19
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OSad posted:World of Tanks got some Girls Und Panzer stuff wargaming delenda est
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