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ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
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Arson Daily posted:

Anyone have any good ideas for a drag and drop music player (I'm done with Apple Music software) but also runs pocketcasts?
About 5 years ago I broke my Sony E-series (400-something) Walkman player, and I still miss it. Yes, proprietary connector and no SD card slot (16 GB internal at the time, newer ones are probably bigger) but it did really well with podcasts. All I want in a player that's playing a 'cast (people sitting around talking about stuff, generally, or audiofiction) are two things: a hold switch so I don't accidentally skip/pause/change volume while the player is in my pocket and a robust and automatic pause / bookmark function that comes back to where I left off after I take my headphones off to talk to whatever yahoo is trying to get my attention.

The way I added files was to simply attach the player to my laptop via the USB cable and then copy the files through Windows Explorer. Sony has (of course) their own software for your computer but I found it needlessly complicated and focused on features I don't use - I don't often make playlists, I just hit "shuffle all" if I'm listening to music, or I'll choose a specific artist or album to listen to.

The lack of a hold switch and my dissatisfaction with every podcast player app for my phone (Android) I've met means I don't listen to many podcasts these days.

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ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Are there really no 100+ gb mp3 players i can get into other than having to shell out like a hundred bucks bidding on an ipod classic ?

My car has an aux only and my phone doesn't have the space...
I should just get some cheaper generic 64gb mp3 player i guess...i could get two of em and just switch em out for way cheaper than an ipod classic...
i wish i could just get a hard drive that could connect up and play music.
Does your phone not have the capacity to take a microSD card?

Or, you could swap your car's head unit (the "stereo") for something made by one of the big players (Sony, JVC, Alpine, etc. etc.) for like $120 and an hour of your time. Then you'd have USB, SD card, Bluetooth, AUX-in, whatever. It's seriously very easy to swap over a head unit. Crutchfield is the go-to site for equipment and instructions.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
For my music project gift for my nephew (see my thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3961082) I plan to give him a stand alone MP3 player on his 10th birthday (a year from now). I looked at the Sandisk line-up, but nothing on offer had every feature I wanted: water-resistant, accepts micro-SD, bluetooth, reasonable controls. All of the Sandisk players seem to have reasonable controls, but the other features are a mixed bag. Plus, the one that came closest, the simple "Sport" (not the Sport Plus, or Sport Go, or Sport Clip Jam) isn't available in Australia.

So I bought the AGPTEK clone, the A50(S). Which isn't waterproof, so I'll have to keep looking before I settle on what I'll get for my nephew. And it only comes in black, which is boring and very easy to loose.

This thing is tiny. It basically weighs nothing, and overall it's just big enough for the big clip on the bag to attach it to your clothes (or the included armband, which is hilariously small - I can juuuust get it around my wrist). Getting the micro-SD card into it was a pain, like other push-until-click card sockets I've met, I had to push it well past level with the outside of the case using my thumbnail. My first try featured the internal spring launching the card across the room, it took me about 5 minutes to find it - of course, it's black, too. Just invisible on the silly multi-pattern carpet.

But it seems to work OK and I'm hoping I'll learn enough about it to be able to gift it to my nephew and not have him get too frustrated with it. Some of the other offerings from AGPTEK (I don't know how to pronounce this) have a single-button volume control, which I always find fiddly and annoying. I'm generally impatient, but I can struggle through something like that most of the time. A 10-year-old boy? Yeah, not so much. The search continues.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

Soul Dentist posted:

Yeah the SanDisk Clip seems like the right choice. Time to also get another microSD card. Cheers and thanks for the recommendations!

I bought a pair of SanDisk Clip Sport Plus, they fit the bill. Actually finding them for sale was a bit of a quest, but it worked out in the end. $100 each, and they seem to fit your requirements, too.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Aw, now I'm really missing my Sony E350 that I stupidly broke by being stupid. It was excellent.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
I've caved in and bought a couple of el-cheapo mp3 players on Amazon over the past 15 or so years; the brand is AGPTEK. They do what they say they do - lots of different file formats, internal memory, micro-SD slots, etc - and there's not really a problem for the first month or two. Then they start to work just a little less well. Buttons have to be pushed harder, or repeatedly, or held down. The battery life drops off a cliff. The screen develops dead pixels or weird brightness gradients. Eventually, I just stop even trying to use the device and it goes into a drawer and I forget about it. I had to go to Amazon and search for "mp3 player" to remember the unpronounceable brand name.

Don't go for the cheapest option. Don't go for the second-cheapest, either - there are knock-off brands of knock-off brands all over this part of Amazon's offerings, churned out in their millions in tiny factories, mostly in China.

Most of the bigger names in electronics have gotten out of the non-lunatic DAP game, with some exceptions at the higher price-points. Sandisk, for example, no longer makes mp3 players as far as I can tell (I might be wrong), but you can still buy new Sandisk players (I assume these are units that have been sitting in warehouses for years). Sony's Walkman line is still good, but can be hard to find for anything priced at less than $300. Like Sandisk, I assume any sub-$300 Sony Walkman unit has been sitting in a warehouse for a decade, if the ad on Amazon even leads to something claimed to be in stock.

Hey, maybe you'll be lucky and the WHATEVERLETTERSIWANT brand 2008-iPod-knockoff will be actually worth the $80 you'll pay for it. Or maybe not.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
There certainly are devices on the new market that meet your specifications, but they're mostly massively overbuilt for the lunatic audiophiles who also buy gold-plated Monster cables and hang magic rocks off of them (i.e. delusional idiots).

There are also good-enough players out there that have some actually nice and useful features but again, they tend to be a bit pricey.

And there are warehouses full of new-old-stock, MP3-players from 10 years ago still in their original packaging. This is where I've found there's a tradeoff - greater than 32GB (either internal or micro-SD) / rugged enough to actually use / priced less than a new phone - pick 2.

And then, at the bottom end, we have the endless variety of knock-offs filling up Amazon and other sellers. I've had a few AGPTEK players, an older Amazon brand, and they have been cheap and disappointing.

So, yes, the answer is almost certainly "a phone with no SIM card". Newer MP3 players have converged on devices that look like phones and are built around a touchscreen that covers one entire side so it's possible that whatever you don't like about using a phone for music is also going to be present in a stand-alone MP3 player. Sorry.

I suggest you use the advanced search function on https://www.gsmarena.com/ to find some older phones that have headphone jacks and are available where you are on the second-hand market. If you specify an older OS (Android: older than 12; Apple I don't know) and/or a release date range that ends a few years ago, you should find some reasonable options that you can look for on eBay or locally. Any phone (again, I'm not familiar with Apple) from the past decade should have the capacity to take a micro-SD card, which raises the storage space to some large multiple of what you have now. But the headphone jack and the USB-charging port are both weak points on phones, so if you go used try to find some assurance that these ports are in good shape.

EDIT: what's your definition of "expensive"? I might be suggesting entirely things that are way more expensive than you're currently considering, but there are other routes down at the cheapest cheap cheapness end of things.

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ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

Erin M. Fiasco posted:

Is something like this trustworthy? Or are there reputable places that sell refurbished 128GB Nanos/Touches with replaced batteries or even modded flash memory classics?
I know nothing about the seller, but I don't see any red flags in that ad and the reviews/feedback seem OK. From what HamburgerTownUSA has said as well, I think you're on the right track here. I hear you about the phone being the all-singing, all-dancing, all-things-all-the-time device and it's good to have some specialisation as well. My phone fell out of my pocket in the car this morning when my wife dropped me off, and while music isn't as much a priority as MFA logging in to my work account, while I was waiting for her to come back and cursing my own foolishness, some tunes might have been nice.

My opinion: get the 256GB version in whatever color combo you prefer (purple is the correct answer) and you won't have to think about this stuff again for a long time.

Erin M. Fiasco posted:

Sorry if my responses are just making things muddy - basically through a combination of nostalgia and getting tired of not owning albums anymore I've wanted to dive back in. I like decent audio but I'm not a FLAC hoarder or anything, and most of my collection is some level of CD ripped 320KBPS MP3.
I'm not seeing any mud here. Probably because I live, metaphorically, in a nice warm mud bath.

I'm still wallowing around in the album era - I have a thread in NMR about a project for my nephew if you're curious - and my music is also mostly CD-ripped 320KBPS MP3. About 7000 tracks at this point, and I recently swapped my phone's 64GB micro-SD for a 128GP card because the total collection is about 67 or 68 GB, and a pair of double albums just arrived in the mail sitting at home waiting for me to rip them. My wife had thought we had escaped the need to ever deal with that weird lovely plastic that CDs are wrapped in, but NO! I drag her back in to that world every time I find an anachronistic bricks-and-mortar record store - they still exist, even post-pandemic.

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