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Giggs
Jan 4, 2013

mama huhu
On the other hand Garrett was one of the vocal students in that "no you guys are actually the dicks" episode, so maybe that'll be a thing again.

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GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Dr_Amazing posted:

The VR stuff was great. The dean literally drowning a file to delete it was hilarious.

Maybe it's :thejoke: but...

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth
I just got around to watching the first two eps, didn't know they were out, and gosh, they were pretty funny! I've watched Community from the beginning and remember being pretty jaded by the last couple seasons, but heck I enjoyed these episodes and will definitely be trying the rest!

Greendale drunk montage was loving ace.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Dr_Amazing posted:

At the end of the first episode when that background guy was furiously glaring at them, was that about anything particular?

I'm calling a Leonard antagonist episode later this season. Something season 3 Pierce level.

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer
Am I the only one who found Yahoo Screen's streaming really loving glitchy? Like, I would get random periodic freezes/pixelation, and it's not my internet. It happened on two devices. And I got no commercials on my Kindle Fire HDX.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

EnsGDT
Nov 9, 2004

~boop boop beep motherfucker~

They look like they figured out why some people call him Pringles dick.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Why is a young JFK spooning Dan Harmon.

Tartan Target
Jun 1, 2001

Loved both episodes, really reassuring start to the season. Frankie seems like a good fit character-wise - she offers the same sort of moral/reality anchor point for the group in the way that Shirley did, but she seems like it'll be a lot easier for Harmon and the staff to write for her. As much as I loved they had a Christian single-mother on the character on a show like that, they clearly never quite knew what to do with her.

Also, exterior shots. I had no idea how much I missed them. Immediately throws more of a sense of reality in there.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

MikeJF posted:

Why is a young JFK spooning Dan Harmon.

That would be Jeff Davis, the unsung hero and "straight man" of Harmontown.

Emerson Cod
Apr 14, 2004

by Pragmatica

Dr_Amazing posted:

At the end of the first episode when that background guy was furiously glaring at them, was that about anything particular?

It was a callback to that scene where Chang did the same thing because he thought he was going to be let into the study group.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

MikeJF posted:

Why is a young JFK spooning Dan Harmon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia2HSjp4to0

Sefer
Sep 2, 2006
Not supposed to be here today

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Am I the only one who found Yahoo Screen's streaming really loving glitchy? Like, I would get random periodic freezes/pixelation, and it's not my internet. It happened on two devices. And I got no commercials on my Kindle Fire HDX.

The strange thing to me is not that so many people had issues with Yahoo Screen, but that there are so many different ways that people had problems. For me, the 3rd (and 4th, when there were 4 commercials) in a set never had sound, and most of the time when getting back from a commercial it would skip the first few seconds of the new scene and I'd have to go back again to get it all. Then there are people with glitchy playback, people who had to refresh after freezes to see it at all, people who didn't get any commercials at all, and I think a couple others I've forgotten now.

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
I CAN'T HELP BUT DERAIL THREADS WITH MY VERY PRESENCE

I ALSO HAVE A CLOUD OF DEDICATED IDIOTS FOLLOWING ME SHITTING UP EVERY THREAD I POST IN

IGNORE ME AND ANY DINOSAUR THAT FIGHTS WITH ME BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T SHUT UP
Yahoo Screen is going to be a bit poo poo to begin with, at least I hope this is it's first big thing, otherwise it has no excuse.

What annoys me is the incredibly limited geo-restriction. Who was in charge for that blunder? Could they just not get the rights to the music? It seems like such a huge mistake to alienate a large percentage of their audience for no published reason; there hasn't been an explanation anywhere, as far as I can tell, which usually someone trots out when people are asking. Even for a rights issue, they could easily make enough profit from international broadcast to pay off whatever dicks want to charge extra for non-americans to listen to their poo poo.

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

Why the assumption that it's music related? They only have the broadcast rights in certain countries. I'm sure Yahoo would prefer to have it available everywhere, it would be easier and would probably make them more money, but international broadcast/streaming rights are a mess for every show. Yahoo can't change that on their own.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax
I think the distribution thing is dumb, but drat do I love all the angry foreigners who can't live without American media for a few days.

BSam
Nov 24, 2012

Irish Joe posted:

I think the distribution thing is dumb, but drat do I love all the angry foreigners who can't live without American media for a few days.

And we love you too Irish Joe.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Irish Joe posted:

I think the distribution thing is dumb, but drat do I love all the angry foreigners who can't live without American media for a few days.

There were about 7 different copies online by the time I woke up in GMT, so I doubt anyone is doing any waiting.

Both episodes solid. Reminded me why it used to be my favourite sitcom despite not being top-10 calibre. Definitely way, way better than something Yahoo! have the rights to, so good on them.

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
I CAN'T HELP BUT DERAIL THREADS WITH MY VERY PRESENCE

I ALSO HAVE A CLOUD OF DEDICATED IDIOTS FOLLOWING ME SHITTING UP EVERY THREAD I POST IN

IGNORE ME AND ANY DINOSAUR THAT FIGHTS WITH ME BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T SHUT UP

Diabolik900 posted:

Why the assumption that it's music related? They only have the broadcast rights in certain countries. I'm sure Yahoo would prefer to have it available everywhere, it would be easier and would probably make them more money, but international broadcast/streaming rights are a mess for every show. Yahoo can't change that on their own.

I dunno, just guessing because it usually is. I just want to know who I can be angry at for keeping internet in the TV age.

El Tortuga
Apr 27, 2007

ĄTerrible es el Guerrero de Tortuga!

Irish Joe posted:

I think the distribution thing is dumb, but drat do I love all the angry foreigners who can't live without American media for a few days.

:golfclap: You are in fine form lately.

Milovan Drecun
Apr 17, 2007
I masturbate in traffic.

Tartan Target posted:

Loved both episodes, really reassuring start to the season. Frankie seems like a good fit character-wise - she offers the same sort of moral/reality anchor point for the group in the way that Shirley did, but she seems like it'll be a lot easier for Harmon and the staff to write for her. As much as I loved they had a Christian single-mother on the character on a show like that, they clearly never quite knew what to do with her.

Also, exterior shots. I had no idea how much I missed them. Immediately throws more of a sense of reality in there.

NEVER is a strong word when they executed Shirley's character perfectly in Messianic Myths and Ancient Peoples (Abed as Jesus), and she did have a great role kind of making fun of herself for the early run. There were just too many episodes (like Troy's 21st birthday) that refused to resolve things with her, and others that just faded her out entirely.

Tartan Target
Jun 1, 2001

Milovan Drecun posted:

NEVER is a strong word when they executed Shirley's character perfectly in Messianic Myths and Ancient Peoples (Abed as Jesus), and she did have a great role kind of making fun of herself for the early run. There were just too many episodes (like Troy's 21st birthday) that refused to resolve things with her, and others that just faded her out entirely.

Fair point, I guess I just felt like those moments of playing to her character strengths just became smaller and more spread out as the show went on.

That's a good point, though. They introduced the idea that Shirley was secretly getting drunk in that bar to the point that her photographs were all over the wall, but they never came back to it. The only other reference to Shirley possibly being an alcoholic was in the 'darkest time-line'. It's a shame, because that seems like something that could've had some mileage to it, but oh well.


Edit: Also, I'm probably the only one who this bothered, but the whole "Jesus wept" bit is a mis-quote of a mis-quote. It should be Alexander, not Jesus (Jesus wasn't really about conquering anything) and even then, the quote everyone remembers - "Alexander wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer" comes word-for-word from Die Hard.

I honestly don't know how much I care about it, though.

Tartan Target fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Mar 22, 2015

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Tartan Target posted:

Edit: Also, I'm probably the only one who this bothered, but the whole "Jesus wept" bit is a mis-quote of a mis-quote. It should be Alexander, not Jesus (Jesus wasn't really about conquering anything)

:thejoke:

Tartan Target
Jun 1, 2001


I figured that's what it was, but my robot-brain started working in smaller and smaller circles until I found myself obsessively reading Wikipedia entries about the quote.

Jesus wept.

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now
I just watched them! I really liked them!

But then I read the thread. I didn't know about Britta's backstory, and that's retroactively made that episode kinda lovely. :(

But lots of things are lovely, and hopefully future episodes don't ever mention Britta's parents so it'll just be forgotten.

Yay!


Also I didn't have any technical problems, the video quality was totally acceptable, and the Jimmy Fallon joke nearly killed me.

Tartan Target posted:

Also, exterior shots. I had no idea how much I missed them.
This too.

JesusFists
Feb 14, 2005

ong-time listener, first-time caller.


While I didn't have a problem with the E2 Britta storyline, my partner, who is not a Harmontown fan, initially did, until I explained that the show was absolutely taking her side. See, Harmon is closer to Britta than to any of the other characters - check out how he basically describes his oppositional defiant disorder in a Rolling Stone interview from last year:

Dan Harmon posted:

I think probably the worst thing about my personality is that there must have been some huge dopamine or serotonin spike when I shamed my grade school principal, or the first time I told my Mom she couldn't make me clean my room. Those experiences were too emotionally formative for me. At the age of 41, I still think I'm addicted to the rush of proving to people that they can't control me.

Harmon had some really abusive parents, like seriously brutally abusive, as he tells it. On Harmontown he's talked about coming to basically the same conclusion as Frankie, realizing that the parents he developed himself in opposition to are now harmless, relatively good-natured old people. While their present benign selves don't make up for what they did, they do call into question Harmon / Britta's entire personal worldview. If their two original tyrants aren't monsters, then no one is a monster, and no one gets to be a hero for fighting them, especially a decade or two after the other side stopped actually being oppressive. In essence, carrying the theme from the first episode, how do you define yourself when there's no longer a Big Bad to cast yourself against?

Of course, one shouldn't have to be an obsessive Harmon fan like myself to understand the emotional conclusion of the episode, so that's definitely something of a shortcoming. Still, I really love where the season is going so far, pairing the grounded, character-based plots (and exteriors!) of S1 with the rich, layered comedy of the later seasons. Happy to see most of the thread seems to be in agreement, but I suppose we're still in the S6 honeymoon period.

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.

JesusFists posted:

While I didn't have a problem with the E2 Britta storyline, my partner, who is not a Harmontown fan, initially did, until I explained that the show was absolutely taking her side. See, Harmon is closer to Britta than to any of the other characters - check out how he basically describes his oppositional defiant disorder in a Rolling Stone interview from last year:


Harmon had some really abusive parents, like seriously brutally abusive, as he tells it. On Harmontown he's talked about coming to basically the same conclusion as Frankie, realizing that the parents he developed himself in opposition to are now harmless, relatively good-natured old people. While their present benign selves don't make up for what they did, they do call into question Harmon / Britta's entire personal worldview. If their two original tyrants aren't monsters, then no one is a monster, and no one gets to be a hero for fighting them, especially a decade or two after the other side stopped actually being oppressive. In essence, carrying the theme from the first episode, how do you define yourself when there's no longer a Big Bad to cast yourself against?

Of course, one shouldn't have to be an obsessive Harmon fan like myself to understand the emotional conclusion of the episode, so that's definitely something of a shortcoming. Still, I really love where the season is going so far, pairing the grounded, character-based plots (and exteriors!) of S1 with the rich, layered comedy of the later seasons. Happy to see most of the thread seems to be in agreement, but I suppose we're still in the S6 honeymoon period.

This is all accurate, but the problem with the episode is that none of that really shines unless your looking for it. Partly it's the childish way they have Britta explain herself, but it's largely because her character's credibility in sincere moments has been destroyed since season 1.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

JesusFists posted:

While I didn't have a problem with the E2 Britta storyline, my partner, who is not a Harmontown fan, initially did, until I explained that the show was absolutely taking her side. See, Harmon is closer to Britta than to any of the other characters - check out how he basically describes his oppositional defiant disorder in a Rolling Stone interview from last year:


Harmon had some really abusive parents, like seriously brutally abusive, as he tells it. On Harmontown he's talked about coming to basically the same conclusion as Frankie, realizing that the parents he developed himself in opposition to are now harmless, relatively good-natured old people. While their present benign selves don't make up for what they did, they do call into question Harmon / Britta's entire personal worldview. If their two original tyrants aren't monsters, then no one is a monster, and no one gets to be a hero for fighting them, especially a decade or two after the other side stopped actually being oppressive. In essence, carrying the theme from the first episode, how do you define yourself when there's no longer a Big Bad to cast yourself against?

Of course, one shouldn't have to be an obsessive Harmon fan like myself to understand the emotional conclusion of the episode, so that's definitely something of a shortcoming. Still, I really love where the season is going so far, pairing the grounded, character-based plots (and exteriors!) of S1 with the rich, layered comedy of the later seasons. Happy to see most of the thread seems to be in agreement, but I suppose we're still in the S6 honeymoon period.

I'm not a Harmontown follower and this definitely puts her characterization into context. But I took away pretty much what you wrote from the episode. I did like Jeff agreeing with her when she accused him of being a terrible friend, "Yeah, we are." Britta being the worst also seems like something coming straight from Harmon's phsyche.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



bowser posted:

My favorite gag was during Frankie's introduction where Chang says in the background "Welcome back Professor Slater".

I liked this joke too and wonder if they're ever going to reference that Paget Brewster has already been on the show as a different character

smashpro1
Mar 1, 2009

Shirley, these things happen in video games. We can't get hung up on real-world morality.

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I liked this joke too and wonder if they're ever going to reference that Paget Brewster has already been on the show as a different character

I thought that joke was the reference?

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
No, Prof Slater was Jeff's dark haired girlfriend from season 1, rival to Britta's affections.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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Yeah that was a different actress that just looks like her. Paget Brewster showed up for 30 seconds in an episode as a parking administrator or something like that

Ravel
Dec 23, 2009

There's no story
She was IT administrator or something like that, but she wanted better parking in exchange for relaxing the porn filter for Nathan Fillion's character.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Ravel posted:

She was IT administrator or something like that, but she wanted better parking in exchange for relaxing the porn filter for Nathan Fillion's character.

That he was actually on an episode as that character makes it even weirder to me that it went unreferenced.

Victor Vermis
Dec 21, 2004


WOKE UP IN THE DESERT AGAIN
I'm with you guys. They missed an opportunity there. Remember in last season's re-pilot when Troy said, "Do you guys feel weird doing this without.. Magnitude?"


He was looking right at PIERCE'S chair when he said it. They really missed an opportunity there to point out that Pierce, a character from previous seasons, was no longer on the show.


welp. gonna go eat some paint chips.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Out of all the weird things they did with characters over the seasons, I still think the fact that they made Shirley and Andre break up again as a throwaway line sucks the most.
Andre wasn't perfect (Hell, he cheated) but I did like their reunion storyline in the earlier seasons.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Zedd posted:

Out of all the weird things they did with characters over the seasons, I still think the fact that they made Shirley and Andre break up again as a throwaway line sucks the most.
Andre wasn't perfect (Hell, he cheated) but I did like their reunion storyline in the earlier seasons.

I loved all his scenes. Troy interrogating him about Halloween, and his angry reaction to Troy and Abed's seemingly sardonic "normalcy"

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

I loved that Britta's parents were Martin Mull and Lesley Ann Warren from Clue.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Brawnfire posted:

I loved all his scenes. Troy interrogating him about Halloween, and his angry reaction to Troy and Abed's seemingly sardonic "normalcy"
Yeah same here, I really liked his character/actor once he was a part of the show, and his little arc.

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Tuxedo Jack
Sep 11, 2001

Hey Ma, who's that band I like? Oh yeah, Hall & Oates.

GreenNight posted:

I loved that Britta's parents were Martin Mull and Lesley Ann Warren from Clue.

Missed opportunity- they were playing generic Trouble rather than Clue.

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