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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Cartouche posted:

I miss Community and I miss Scrubs. :(

Are there any existing decent non studio audience (read: laughtrack) comedic shows anymore of any worth?

Try Psych. It was doing the "this episode is a spoof of x show or movie" first and did it well.

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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Oh Snapple! posted:

Yvette was wonderful and when the writers did have poo poo for her she loving nailed it.

"The word he's looking for is "sassy." He better pray he don't find it."

I want this as my next avatar

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



That's a weird way of saying Troy's Castaway adventure.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Vegetable posted:

Donglover recently said Chevy was racist as heck on the set. He's the last person to deserve the benefit of the doubt.

That whole interview was hosed up and depressing. It's a long article but worth the read. I can't find the link now, but I think it was from The Atlantic.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007




Thank you!

Kuiperdolin posted:

Twenty times too long with weird, uninteresting, name-droppy tangents. It's like Tristram Shandy but unfunny.

Yeah man how dare he name the people who treated him like poo poo because he is black.

Seriously some of ya'll ain't poo poo. I remember when he left to do music and a whole bunch of people itt said that he would fail and his music as for hipster whites.. now I hear Redbone get play on WJLB all day.

This whole era of his is very Kanye-esque. Some of you praise Dan Harmon and want crazy rear end Chevy/Pierce back but for some reason Donald doesn't get a pass like those guys....

Koalas March
May 21, 2007






Koalas March
May 21, 2007



MokBa posted:

The author of the article was the one constantly name-dropping and it was very annoying. Should've been written in a more formal interview style.

Alright that's fair. It sounded to me like they were talking about him spilling the tea on Tina Fey and Chevy. Which was insane to me because everyone knows Chevy treated Donald like poo poo. Joel McHale even wrote about it in his book iirc.

I've already gotten into arguments with folks who are mad he had the nerve to say that poo poo about them and joke about being Jesus and whatever, so I'm a little sensitive about it plus I remember a lot of people talking poo poo about Don itt when he left the show.

Like I said, he really reminds of Kanye right now, he also has a history of depression and suicide attempts (I actually have heard a hosed up story about when he was in Australia right before he tried to commit suicide) so I'm worried he's heading for a breakdown.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



MokBa posted:

Pretty sure that quote came straight out of Fey's Bossypants. She praises Glover a *lot* in that passage so I can't imagine the two have any kind of problem.

Tina Fey has said a lot of lovely things about race and especially about women of color though. She is basically in the same vein as John "My dick is a white supremacist" Mayer.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007




quote:

“Thomas Jefferson—another gorgeous white boy who would not have been interested in me. This was my problem in a nutshell. To get some play in Charlottesville, you had to be either a Martha Jefferson or a Sally Hemings.”

— Tina Fey (Bossypants)

Sally Hemings was a fourteen-year-old black girl who was Thomas Jefferson's slave. He raped her.

Also quoting from an intersectional feminist because I'm phone posting and you can't be bothered to Google:

quote:

She also is implying that the fact Black women have been sexually exploited and fetishized by white men benefits Black women and hurts white women and means white men prefer them to us, thus rendering them our “competitors” for white male attention. She did a similar thing when she said that beauty standards for “women” (aka WHITE women) are made worse because some female celebrities of color have promoted empowerment in their beauty, and again characterizes white men’s fetishization of women of color as detrimental to white women:

“But I think the first real change in women’s body image came when JLo turned it butt-style. That was the first time that having a large-scale situation in the back was part of mainstream American beauty. Girls wanted butts now. Men were free to admit that they had always enjoyed them. And then, what felt like moments later, boom—Beyoncé brought the leg meat. A back porch and thick muscular legs were now widely admired. And from that day forward, women embraced their diversity and realized that all shapes and sizes are beautiful. Ah ha ha. No. I’m totally messing with you. All Beyonce and JLo have done is add to the laundry list of attributes women must have to qualify as beautiful. Now every girl is expected to have Caucasian blue eyes, full Spanish lips, a classic button nose, hairless Asian skin with a California tan, a Jamaican dance hall rear end, long Swedish legs, small Japanese feet, the abs of a lesbian gym owner, the hips of a nine-year-old boy, the arms of Michelle Obama, and doll tits. The person closest to actually achieving this look is Kim Kardashian, who, as we know, was made by Russian scientists to sabotage our athletes.”

So basically Tina Fey is blaming celebrity women of color for daring to be seen as beautiful and making it “harder” for white women in a society white men control. She is taking the attributes women of color are fetishized for and blaming these women for having these attributes as opposed to blaming white men for fetishizing these attributes, and acting as if this fetishization is something woc have benefited from at white women’s expense. She is also blaming woc for the impossible beauty standards in our culture (THAT WHITE MEN MADE). She not only does that, but she characterizes these women of color is fetishistic ways, reducing them to an rear end, “leg meat,” arms, lips… This is the first time I’ve seen this quote in full and it convinces me that Tina Fey is a raging racist and racialized misogynist.

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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



prefect posted:

They talked about this kind of cultural appropriation a couple times on "Whiting Wongs". I think the conclusion was "Wu-Tang are the coolest guys ever, and they're doing it with respect".

To give a little more background, it was written in response to actual Asian groups who were upset with the way a character in the first season was written.

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