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Also the location of the clothes doesn't discount paradoxical undressing at all. They felt hot, took off some of their clothes, put them in the tent, then went back outside and died. There's plenty of cool mysteries in the world that remain unsolved. Choosing a solved one then haggling over irrelevant details in the explanation is pointless.
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FrozenVent posted:Where are you getting this stuff? Any primary sources?
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You don't understand what a primary source is. It's not the book written by the guy working from the original report, it's the original report. You don't understand how hypothermia sets in. It's not a set amount of time, it can happen in a tent. As to the foot tracks, yes, sometimes frozen tracks will remain after the snow has melted. Not long, and it doesn't look like what you're describing - it's more like little chips of ice or cookies.
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FrozenVent posted:You don't understand what a primary source is. It's not the book written by the guy working from the original report, it's the original report. There is no full translation of the original reports, as far as I know. The secondary sources I quote give fragments of translation. Find me a translation of the reports and we'll debate that. There was no reason for anyone to get hypothermia in a wind-sheltered environment in only approx. -10c (early evening) with plenty of clothes, blankets, felt boots, ski boots and a stove with wood (if they wanted it), plus food and hot cocoa in thermos flask. The evidence suggests that all except 1 of the party was active and moving for 2-3 hours before hypothermia killed them. The trauma victims are a different matter, probably less than 2 hours exposure. I've seen series of full footprints with with treadmarks last for a week or two under moderate shaded conditions. What can I say...? I'm not inventing any of this stuff and I'm not pushing any angle... If you have a theory - post it.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:There was no reason for anyone to get hypothermia in a wind-sheltered environment in only approx. -10c Jesus Christ. Here's my theory: they got scared by something, they ran out of the tent, died of hypothermia. The end. Then there was a sloppy soviet investigation, it got seized on by conspiracy theorists and the people who make money off of them, and here we are.
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# ? Mar 26, 2015 01:17 |
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FrozenVent posted:Jesus Christ. Don't forget idiots. Idiots love it.
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# ? Mar 26, 2015 01:46 |
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FrozenVent posted:I've never heard of this occurring. I've been spending a lot of time walking through snow for the past thirty something years. Snow does not do that I've seen it quite a few times, though the foot prints are really just flat blobs. You can't sniff them and say "this person was left handed and not running."
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# ? Mar 26, 2015 01:55 |
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Tiberius Thyben posted:Don't forget idiots. Idiots love it. That's included in conspiracy theorists, really. "But guys, if you only look at these selected pieces of evidence..."
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# ? Mar 26, 2015 01:56 |
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FrozenVent posted:Jesus Christ. You know what? I 100% agree with you. Phyzzle posted:I've seen it quite a few times, though the foot prints are really just flat blobs. You can't sniff them and say "this person was left handed and not running." Yeah, to a degree. Photos of some of the Dyatlov prints are fairly clear and flat - very different profile to a running step (chopping, angular and without heel). The original searchers had at least one expert tracker so...
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Well if that didn't happen the what the gently caress is this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatwoods_monster please explain. It's relevant (it's not). People in the 50's didn't lie, don't you know! It must be aliens.
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I'm pretty sure the Flatwoods Monster was an actual monster/alien and not just an owl that caught fire from an exploded meteor or whatever.
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:I'm pretty sure the Flatwoods Monster was an actual monster/alien and not just an owl that caught fire from an exploded meteor or whatever. Idiot. You're creating a false dichotomy to support your position. It was obviously a monster/alien who caught fire from a meteor coincidentally.
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