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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Following a cue from the excellent Oh No, Ross and Carrie podcast, I asked a Mormon about intersex people and he told me that he didn't think god would allow it and said he would ask an elder. Mormon elders are all like 23 because no rational adult would believe that horseshit for more than five minutes, by the way.

How do the JWs keep grownups? Attrition is apparently a huge problem for Mormons.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Do they still mandate conversion therapy? BYU had a BDSM dungeon conversion center in the basement of one of their buildings for like 20 years, just wiring dudes' dicks to car batteries and making them look at gay porn.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I know they're too far gone to really care about the truth, but they can't possibly believe that the JWs are growing, can they? Even Methodists and Presbyterians are having trouble keeping the lights on.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Domus posted:

One thing I saw Penn Jillette (who can be kind of an rear end in a top hat, but you can't invalidate an idea because of its source) bring up that always stuck with me is that in the bible, god asks Abraham to sacrifice his son. Not for the better of humanity, not even because Issac was evil, but because god said so. So Abraham does, more or less. And this is held up as a good thing. I know it's a metaphor for not questioning God, but that's what I find really scary about Monotheistic religions. You're really supposed to follow exactly what this one deity wants you to, without question, for eternity? This goes double for JW's, because they think Satan is real and is in a war with God. How was Abraham supposed to know that was God's voice, and not Satan pretending to be God? How can you know if you're making a mistake, and misinterpret what God's saying? If you can't question God, what is the mechanism for deciding what's true?

Immanuel Kant offered up a stronger version of this critique like 200 years before Penn Jillette was born, if you'd rather look that up.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Also, Mormon "elders" tend to be really young, like in their early 20s.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It's because loading important-sounding titles onto impressionable kids keeps them satisfied with the crazy nonsense of their religion longer. It's like the Soviets and medals.

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