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Arglebargle III posted:There is no need to assign human life a priori positive "value"* in order to live safely in a community. Humans have lived together "safely" forever with these "monsters, ax murders, and pedophiles" in their midst. In the last 60 years violent deaths per human life have plummeted and more generally the trend is downward. I have serious doubts about whether these "monsters" are actually responsible for very much harm**, and I have philosophical objections to the unquestioning assumption that violent murder is a morally or socially undesirable act. You never really did respond to my question of why you would call the state to lock me up but not imprison me in your basement. Presumably the distinction goes beyond the purely pragmatic in your mind? Can you point to any human society where murder was permitted and socially acceptable? I'm not talking about some groups being allowed to murder other groups, but murder itself not being viewed as socially or morally problematic as you seem to be suggesting? Even bands of hunter-gatherers would generally try to refrain from murdering each other and focus on murdering other bands of hunter-gatherers. It's kind of hard to form any sort of civilization if killing each other at will is considered acceptable, it's a hell of a lot harder to make more babies than it is to kill someone.
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