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This is terrible. The description's still unclear (and cause of death probably won't be for a while) but it's troubling since it seems like something that could have happened to anyone in the ring, unlike Hart's death which was a stunt that shouldn't have been approved to begin with. You want the business to be as safe as possible and things like this happen.
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I'm on a phone so I can't copy and paste but follow @luchablog on Twitter and read his blog linked from it for more info. So loving sad, especially on such a routine move. Really shows how dangerous this dumb thing we all enjoy can be.
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Mar 21, 2015 17:52
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What the gently caress rip
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Mar 21, 2015 17:52
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poo poo. major bummer. rip
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Mar 21, 2015 17:55
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per luchablogs twitter for those wondering why there was no ringside doctor:quote:luchablog @luchablog · 9m 9 minutes ago
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Mar 21, 2015 17:57
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The full match video might be even more grim than the artful closeups of a dying man video, it looks so routine and normal. Just a horrendous situation.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:00
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That's terrible. Scary just how quickly it can happen. RIP.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:03
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Thauros posted:I'm on a phone so I can't copy and paste but follow @luchablog on Twitter and read his blog linked from it for more info. quote:@luchablog · 23m 23 minutes ago
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Mar 21, 2015 18:08
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DEAR RICHARD posted:Full match on youtube Here's another video that makes it clearer that Rey didn't even touch him with the 619. The last move was a dropkick to the arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkO1AsTlVgU
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Mar 21, 2015 18:09
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Oof. Horrible stuff.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:12
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Here's another video that makes it clearer that Rey didn't even touch him with the 619. The last move was a dropkick to the arm. The show must go on. 
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Mar 21, 2015 18:15
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That looks like an incredibly routine kick to cause spinal damage.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:17
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Burt Buckle posted:That looks like an incredibly routine kick to cause spinal damage. sounds like it was the floor bump
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Mar 21, 2015 18:18
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Burt Buckle posted:That looks like an incredibly routine kick to cause spinal damage. It sounds like his body was completely worn down.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:19
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Yuriy posted:sounds like it was the floor bump Ah. It wouldn't surprise me, It doesn't look like they have mats on the outside either.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:25
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Nope. Saw a video from someone recording in the front seats. No mats at all.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:30
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I honestly didn't know who he was until I looked up some of his stuff on youtube. It's always awful when somebody dies so young, but it's a double bummer to see somebody so talented go.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:36
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Here's another video that makes it clearer that Rey didn't even touch him with the 619. The last move was a dropkick to the arm. It looks like the dropkick was barely a nudge, too. Can't blame Rey for this at all.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:41
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Christ that's awful. My prayers for this guy and his family. What a horrible freak accident. Not to detract from the man who actually died, but poor Rey also. He's got to be thinking he killed a man, even if he knows factually it's not true. What a lovely thing.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:46
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Yuriy posted:sounds like it was the floor bump He looked pretty out of it from the bump he took right after the corner kick Everything after just made it worse
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Mar 21, 2015 18:47
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Dang, he sold that dropkick like death!  But really though, this is sad as hell.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:48
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Chris James 2 posted:It sounds like his body was completely worn down. Between his long career and personal problems I'm sure his body was absolutely destroyed.
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Mar 21, 2015 18:51
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Everyone went up to him was like, "you okay?"
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Mar 21, 2015 18:55
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It's so disturbing that these guys work so hard that this can happen in-ring, even on what seem like "normal" spots. only 35. just terrible
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Mar 21, 2015 18:56
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Lower order thing but apparently Rey and Konnan are going to understandably pull out of the Walemania thing Wrestlemania weekend. Rey has took it really badly. Just inconsolable.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:00
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Fiveace Attorney posted:It's so disturbing that these guys work so hard that this can happen in-ring, even on what seem like "normal" spots. only 35. just terrible It's possible it had nothing to do with the spots at all, this can be caused by drug abuse.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:03
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Having just discovered the guy a few days ago, did he really have long time drug/alcohol abuse problems?
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Mar 21, 2015 19:09
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according to wikipedia he had abdominal surgery on a tumor in 2011 and had a burst peptic ulcer, was supposed to take a full year to recover but they found the tumor to be benign and he returned like the next month. and theres an increased risk of spinal stroke after abdominal surgery
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Mar 21, 2015 19:10
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Roman Reigns posted:Having just discovered the guy a few days ago, did he really have long time drug/alcohol abuse problems? Seemingly, everyone in lucha has alcohol abuse problems. That's just the attitude there.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:10
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Roman Reigns posted:Having just discovered the guy a few days ago, did he really have long time drug/alcohol abuse problems? Idk for sure, but i think in 2011 or 2012 he was no-showing a ton of shows, and then said he had cancer, but it was a lie. but that was maybe someone else. I'm no expert.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:11
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ChampRamp posted:Seemingly, everyone in lucha has alcohol abuse problems. That's just the attitude there. Sean Waltman said the AAA locker room was all about hard drugs and alcohol when he was there, but that was a few years ago.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:12
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lucha is like a timewarp to the 80s in a lot of ways and so that isn't surprising at all
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Mar 21, 2015 19:14
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Here's another video that makes it clearer that Rey didn't even touch him with the 619. The last move was a dropkick to the arm. You can see his lower back smack into the apron on that head scissors to the outside (the angle he hits reminded me of the HBK casket bump at Royal Rumble 98) on the move before the dropkick. So it was most likely that and then it caught up with him a few seconds later when he dropped for the 619. Mysterio did a great job of still missing Perro with the 619 despite thinking he was going to move.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:15
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Fiveace Attorney posted:according to wikipedia he had abdominal surgery on a tumor in 2011 and had a burst peptic ulcer, was supposed to take a full year to recover but they found the tumor to be benign and he returned like the next month. and theres an increased risk of spinal stroke after abdominal surgery That whole period caused a lot of suspicion, most people seemed to not buy his story but he had a scar so no one really knew.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:18
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Man that's incredibly tragic. 35 is way too young to go.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:26
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As a mexican this loss of an astounding performer in a sport we all love is huge. My condolences to the family.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:29
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gently caress this. This sucks. Perros Del Mal 4 4 4 Life
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Mar 21, 2015 19:46
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Roman Reigns posted:Nope. Saw a video from someone recording in the front seats. No mats at all. they never have mats. AAA, for being a large promotion, does not have its poo poo together one bit. See the last week of problems.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:52
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coconono posted:they never have mats. AAA, for being a large promotion, does not have its poo poo together one bit. See the last week of problems. eh cant blame them for the rain-out or the bus-wreck, p much just the lack of permit when they had to re-schedule also this death did not occur in AAA but an indie in tijuana or some sort from what i understand so im not sure what youre talking about or why youre making GBS threads on AAA for this
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coconono posted:they never have mats. AAA, for being a large promotion, does not have its poo poo together one bit. See the last week of problems. It wasn't an AAA show, they don't really run many house shows, it was an unaffiliated show in TJ.
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