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Sneakster
Jul 13, 2017

by R. Guyovich
wrong thread
...this is probably the right thread.

Sneakster fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Aug 23, 2017

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Sneakster
Jul 13, 2017

by R. Guyovich
drat it

Sneakster
Jul 13, 2017

by R. Guyovich

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

This is it. Our constitution was written with a glaring flaw: if everyone involved in a party refuses to play by the rules, you are hosed.
....pretty sure the constitution had more glaring flaws than that, you know, like only giving voting power to land owning white males like some kind of minor feudalism.

The American Revolution was little more than a coup by a handful of capitalists who didn't like the British insufficient enthusiasm for slave states and seizing land from native population. Canada wasn't independent of the Crown until the 1980s, a different set of holidays and developing in more concentrated and sustainable ways is basically the difference. Fundamentally the bad guys won: if Trump overthrew the US and installed himself as dictator, give it a couple hundred years of propaganda and he'd be seen as a respectable quasi-deified founding father figure despite being a grossly corrupt bloated inbred pig-man gangster in bed with a foreign mafia, like the founding fathers.

Sneakster
Jul 13, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Jolly Jumbuck posted:

Just chiming in as someone who used to lean "right-wing", people are more interested in making sure their own livelihoods are met than in basic constitutional fairness, let alone any sort of social welfare.
Actually, thats a 'you people' bit of sociopathy, and everyone outside your deranged circle of war-profiteer-welfare-cases knows the score and isn't quite as psychotically and childishly myopic.

I gotta harp on it a little more:

Catch 22 from freakin' 1961 posted:

Major Major’s father was a sober God-fearing man whose idea of a good joke was to lie about his age. He was a longlimbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism. He advocated thrift and hard work and disapproved of loose women who turned him down. His specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow.

The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn’t earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major’s father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done. He invested in land wisely and soon was not growing more alfalfa than any other man in the county. Neighbors sought him out for advice on all subjects, for he had made much money and was therefore wise. “As ye sow, so shall ye reap,” he counseled one and all, and everyone said, “Amen.”

Major Major’s father was an outspoken champion of economy in government, provided it did not interfere with the sacred duty of government to pay farmers as much as they could get for all the alfalfa they produced that no one else wanted or for not producing any alfalfa at all. He was a proud and independent man who was opposed to unemployment insurance and never hesitated to whine, whimper, wheedle and extort for as much as he could get from whomever he could.

Build bombs monday through friday, get drunk on saturday, church on Sunday. There has never been a snowflake as special as the non-serving, defense industry white American conservatives who are literally the basis of the Homer-Simpson-boob that is the ugly American. I'm so sorry that you had no idea that your co-workers are the parody of the American idiot living the blind-to-it-socialist-dream.

Sneakster fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Sep 12, 2018

Sneakster
Jul 13, 2017

by R. Guyovich
Defense of white property and subsidizing white property is the only legit function of the state, everything else is communists overthrowing democracy, of which land owning should be a prerequisite to participate.

Oddly enough, if you're within the "one of us" designation for people like that, you can usually talk them into extremely far left socialist ideas as long as you don't use any trigger words.

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