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Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Strictly better isn't a useful term because there are so many cards that there will inevitably be a named case where a card isn't the best option, aside from the very rare equivalents of bolt vs shock.

When people read the phrase "strictly better" or even "better" they should imagine that the cards being talked about are being compared in a realistic situation in an existing metagame, or in an existing deck. Like sure Judge's Familiar is better than Cursecatcher in a vacuum, but no one plays magic by comparing two cards and deciding the winner, Merfolk is a deck so Cursecatcher is The Better Card even though the text on it doesn't indicate that at all.

Being able to look at a card and decide if it's good in a vacuum is a useful skill, but it's far more important to be able to throw that card in a functioning deck.

Toshimo posted:

Waste Not is still 2x the $$$ of Genesis Hydra.

Same with Keranos/Athreos vs. Polly-K.

~magic~

Pretty sure Polukranos was in at least one supplemental. Also a large set that got drafted through the entire format rather than a small set that didn't.

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Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Entropic posted:

If I say something like "there's no reason to play Anticipate in Legacy, because Impulse is strictly better" you know exactly what I mean and if you try to concoct some elaborate "BUT WHAT ABOUT MEDDLING MAGE" scenario you're being intentionally obtuse.

I don't think that the phrase strictly better does anything in this thought that "better" doesn't do by itself.

Also yeah Meddling Mage or any other card naming [cardname] is the dumbest poo poo, and on par with "Eldrazi are strictly better than every other creature just in case my opponent is trying to mill me out"

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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It's worth noting that 1CD being better assumes that you're actually playing that exact color combo. While some cards are certainly good enough to warrant a splash, plenty are merely "pretty good" which can be enough to put the card (or even the deck) out of contention

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Yeah its not useful and it's why I think trying to save the term is dumb. The obvious judges familiar / cursecatcher comparison kills it: the text on cursecatcher is worse by itself, except that's not how magic works so it gets played as a beater instead of a counterspell that dies to removal.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Sigma-X posted:

But I'm done I clearly don't get this thread at all.

Opening a thread with "let's talk about card evaluation; here's what I think strictly better means" isn't very strong in this meta

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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RME posted:

this topic would be strictly better in the gas chamber

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Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Just watched MattiasNL pull a draft win out because he blocked down to one and popped an evolving wilds instead of a fetch.

Wheres your strictly better now nerds

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