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Organza Quiz posted:Are we really recommending that people jump onto the new series with Deep Breath and not The Eleventh Hour now? I mean I know it's the start of 12's run but it feels like a terrible jumping on point to me. There's just so much continuity between it and 11's run, besides it being a way worse episode. After months and months of endlessly talking about Doctor Who and hyping Peter Capaldi, I sat my girlfriend down to watch the premiere of Deep Breath with me and she immediately hated it. We sat there watching the ninja lizard lady and the potato man run around Victorian London and she rolled her eyes so hard they sounded like the turning cogs of a tightening torture rack tearing my very soul apart. I wouldn't call it the best possible introduction episode. Anyway, happy 10th anniversary, New Who! I still like you. Here's a lovely video of Capaldi talking about Rose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkpEBYSM3nE  Party like it's '05, thread.
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After The War posted:Topics that came up with an increasingly inebriated Sylvester McCoy: prohibition, paper liquor store bags, the death penalty, right-to-try laws, Werner von Braun, Nazi medical experiments, Operation Paperclip, the role of race and religion in politics, gentrification and DC voting rights. I'm jealous as hell, that must've been brilliant. 
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Dabir posted:Cribbed two of them - it's half Shada, half City. And the third Hitchhiker book is based on the unproduced Doctor Who and the Krikkitmen and other rejected pitches. Adams wasn't one to let an idea go unused a good two or three times.
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Jerusalem posted:You're South African? Must be all those Krotons giving it a bad name.
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Apr 15, 2015 05:59
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Bicyclops posted:Ahahaha. I just posted that same image (minus the caption) recently, when the Red Sox kept me awake by playing a nineteen loving inning game. There's a Tom Baker picture for every occasion. He's got a very beautiful smile, probably. Please make some gifs of Richard Martin charmingly throwing his scarf around, thank you.
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Anything particularly great or noteworthy in series 3 and 4? I feel like I need a Lost Stories palate cleanser after trudging through the mostly pretty bad first series.
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Apr 24, 2015 11:04
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CobiWann posted:This is why I always avoid trailers if I can. NEXT WEEK ON MAD MEN Betty answers the telephone
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May 28, 2015 11:56
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I just watched Snakedance for the first time in forever and it was nice to see Rob Shearman gushing about it in the extras. You can really see shades of Snakedance in Jubilee, actually (and I guess Holy Terror to an extent, too). It's just nice to know that any given Doctor Who story is always somebody's absolute and undisputed favourite, and that even the ones that aren't Caves of Androzanis or Geneses of the Daleks can still be fondly remembered and inspire people 50 years on.
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Jun 5, 2015 05:30
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Davros1 posted:But Snakedance is one of the more critically acclaimed stories. Not to the extent of Kinda, but it's not like it's derided or anything. Now if he had been talking about The Space Pirates . . . It is, and it is excellent, but it's not a big, obvious classic like the ones I mentioned, or indeed Kinda. And I'll bet you there's some fucker out there who really likes The Space Pirates.
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CobiWann posted:By the way...since it’s Friday AND Colin Baker’s birthday on Monday, guess what that means! Oh wow, that's a pretty great selection. Definitely picking up The Fourth Wall and The Wrong Doctors, at least.
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  You can take the man out of 70s porn but you can never take 70s porn out of the man. Happy birthday, Colin!
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EDIT: noooooo  CobiWann posted:So here’s a weird question because I’m trying to do a timeline in my head… No one, really. The responsibilities of a modern DW showrunner were more or less split between the producer and the script editor, and you can't really speak of the influence one had on a certain era without considering that of the other. While the producer made the big decisions and had final say on most things, the script editor dealt with the nitty-gritty of what was to be filmed and it is often his influence that's more immediately recognisable in the final product. That's my understanding of it, at least. Anyway, Doctor Who's producer & script editor tag-teams from the mid-70s to the late 80s were:
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Jun 18, 2015 14:05
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Tim Burns Effect posted:Since so many classic serials are available online in one way or another, pretty much the only reason I have the urge to buy them on DVD is for the audio commentaries. Does anybody have any standouts/recommendations? So far "anything with Peter Davison and/or Colin Baker" seems to be the running theme from what I've seen online elsewhere. The TV Movie special edition commentary with McCoy and McGann is the gold standard of Who DVD audio commentaries, but there are loads of other great ones, as well. The only one that has both Davison and C-Baker is Arc of Infinity, and that commentary is pretty much the only reason to watch Arc of Infinity anyway. Honorable mention to The Five Doctors commentary with David Tennant and co. too.
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Oh my goodness that new trailer I think I want to kiss it to death
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Just finished listening to Son of the Dragon, and while I appreciate the writer's efforts in ending the first two episodes on the words "Dracula" and "the bride of Dracula", I was disappointed to find the last two didn't end on someone shouting "the son of Dracula", "the house of Dracula", or even "Abbot and Costello meet Dracula". Poor show.
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Gaz-L posted:...gently caress it, I'm gonna watch Hammer Into Anvil for the 5th time. (I know it's not one of the 'important' ones, but I fuckin' love that episode. Number 6 just destroying a man because of that man's amorality.) I don't care if it's not one of McGoohan's original seven, Hammer Into Anvil is pure, distilled Prisoner and easily one of the better episodes of the series. There are loads of great episodes in The Prisoner beyond the "arc" (in the loosest possible sense of the word) stuff. It's Your Funeral is never particularly fondly remembered either, but I've always thought André van Gyseghem was a top-tier Number 2 (and he apparently played the rear end in a top hat Mongol in Marco Polo as well, so his points in my eyes just went up even further).
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jivjov posted:Sadly just a mini-series, like their 9th Doctor run. How was this, by the way? It seemed pretty cool, but I haven't heard anything about it since it came out.
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Jul 15, 2015 11:33
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IceAgeComing posted:Isn't Edge of Destruction a two parter? There's at least one other Hartnell two part story - I think the one after Dalek Invasion of Earth was The Rescue, yes.
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Jul 23, 2015 10:21
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I just read Hunters of the Burning Stone, which collects Doctor Who Magazine's comic strips from 2012 and 2013. The titular story was the comic's 50th anniversary celebration, featuring the return of Ian and Barbara with the caveman tribe from An Unearthly Child turned into intergalactic super-hunters by aliens in a villainous turn that's equal parts very fitting and completely, totally insane. Hunters was the strip's big finale to its own then-ongoing metaplot du jour, which I didn't find too appealing here, but it works well enough as a stand-alone anniversary story, too. It's a lot of fun, mixing elements from Classic and New Who rather cleverly. I have a soft spot for the DWM strips throughout the ages for just this reason, really: the strip is in a pretty marginal position when compared to the TV show, or even something like Big Finish or the IDW/Titan comics, which means its contributions to the canon at large are inevitably pretty minor too, but at the same time it's often able to play with past Doctor Who in all its more or less obscure forms more freely than the more mainstream stuff can. It can do stories featuring Beep the Meep or Shayde or Kroton the Friendly Cyberman and have just as much heft to them as ones with the Daleks or the Master. It's fanwanky, yes, and there's a limit they sometimes reach when it all gets a bit derivative and tiresome, but it's obviously by fans for fans, and its heart is in the right place. The collected editions are very well done, too. I especially like the author comment sections at the end - these really made the Eighth Doctor collections, and I'm glad to see they've got commentaries for the newer strips, as well. They've got a lot of fun little tidbits in there (like how before he decided to use the Tribe of Gum as the villains, the writer was going to have the aliens give their psycho-metal space-hunting suits to the Aztecs from The Aztecs), and it's just nice to see how much care and work goes into what some might see as pretty inconsequential fluff in the back pages of a tie-in magazine. The old Eighth Doctor collections are, as mentioned, especially great, so definitely get your hands on some of those if you can.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:There are five (finished) 6-parters in Baker's run, and they're either classics or flabby messes, with no middle ground. There's no way, had it been finished it would definitely have continued the tradition of season-ending flabby messes they had going. It's honestly for the best they never really went back to the six-parters after Tom. As much as they were a fixture of the Pertwee era and worked perfectly well for Hartnell and Troughton, I can't imagine any of the Davison stories holding up for six parts, for example (and from Season 23 onwards a six-parter would've taken up almost half the season, so making one wouldn't really be possible). I guess they sort of tried that with The Two Doctors and its three longer episodes, but the extended runtime didn't do that one any favours, either. EDIT: vvv I take everything back, give me this instead Forktoss fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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Fil5000 posted:If you did that you'd have to cut out all those bits in Paradise Towers where a cleaner bot drivers around to the strains of dramatic Keff McCulloch synth orchestra stabs. I would like to see New Who stories extended into four-parters by inserting additional Keff McCulloch garbage robot sequences between every scene.
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cargohills posted:I just spotted this on the Big Finish website: https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/doctor-who-lily-arwell-joins-the-churchill-years I mean I trust Big Finish and everything, but "Eleventh Doctor, Winston Churchill and young Kazran Sardick go to ancient Britain, meet Julius Caesar and fight against a Dalek" sounds like some sort of fan fiction Mad Libs
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pinacotheca posted:Yeah, that's true. One of the big problems of the show in the mid-80s was that it was more or less being made the same way as it was twenty years beforehand. While I have a huge amount of nostalgia for 80s Who, I think they got it half-right with the cancellation/hiatus after season 22, insofar as something desperately needed to change. But what they really needed to do was install a new production team and give the show a realistic 1980s sci-fi TV budget (as opposed to the "1963 budget adjusted for inflation" which it actually had), not just bump up each episode to the length of a Juliet Bravo, or whatever. Having serials of two or three parts with 45-minute episodes is such a weird format, as well. It just feels like a poorly thought-out compromise between the old serial structure and the more common drama format, and I certainly can't think of another show that did the same (are there any?). I wonder if mid-80s Who had been a bit more successful if they had just gone all-in in Season 22/23 and done 13 one-off episodes a season instead of relying on the more and more obsolete serial structure.
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I don't think I've ever bought any Big Finish audio on the release day (or even at full price, I think) other than The Light at the End, but it looks a lot like I'll have to cave in and get The Last Adventure. The physical release for Light was so pretty I'm really tempted to get this one as an actual tangible object as well, but since I guess I'll have to eat next month I'll probably have to make do with the more ephemeral version and save the rest of the money for some actual tangible bread instead. EDIT: Oh no sorry, I had preordered Dark Eyes as well. Please update your SA Forums Posters' BFA Buying Habits spreadsheet accordingly. Forktoss fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Aug 17, 2015 |
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Fil5000 posted:License tried to do something different but failed horribly and looks weird because it's all filmed on location in Mexico or something. Daylights is a proper, solid Bond film (slightly iffy "hooray for our pals the Taliban" aside) and Dalton is for real the best Bond. Back off topic, Living Daylights also has one of the best Bond themes (the only thing better than A-ha doing an 80s Bond theme being Duran Duran doing an 80s Bond theme) and yes, Dalton is so good. He's the Colin Baker of Bonds, and I keep hoping against hope Big Finish will get their Bond stuff off the ground one of these days and get him back in the recording booth.
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Aug 19, 2015 09:59
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Fil5000 posted:Toby Stephens starred in a bunch of Bond audio plays for the Beeb and it felt to me like he was channeling a bit of Dalton (though that might just be because Dalton was probably the closest to the book Bond). They're worth a listen if you can stomach them staying very close to Fleming's original texts (like Pussy Galore being an evil lesbian that Bond "turns" with the power of his dick). Do they retain Blofeld's island castle with a courtyard full of poisonous plants he uses to lure suicidal Japanese people into his garden... of DEATH *twang etc* in You Only Live Twice? Because I mean the films have their fair set of flaws, but at least they knew when to shoot the dumbest of Fleming's poo poo straight to the moon.
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After The War posted:So that would make George Lazenby... Paul McGann? Oh God, this is all working too well... Pierce Brosnan is David Tennant, Roger Moore is Peter Davison... and, uh... David Niven is... Peter Cushing?
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Cleretic posted:I'm not sure I'd say Brosnan is Tennant. Tennant (and Eccleston since Nine and Ten have a lot of similar stuff going on) seems like he's probably generally the Daniel Craig territory; the darker and more serious revival that still 'gets it'. I don't know, the life-long fanboy lead actor and the overall gadgety goofiness kind of say Tennant to me. Craig could definitely be Eccleston, though.
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I didn't care much about the stuff about the Valeyard being created by some Time Lord black ops department, which just seemed like way too mundane an explanation and didn't have any bearing on anything anyway, but other than that I quite liked it. I'll have to give it another listen before I can formulate a proper opinion, though, since I'm sure I missed a few details on the first go.
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Enemy of the World shot straight up my list of best Troughtons as soon as I could see it in its entirety, it's so good. So much so that it made The Web of Fear feel almost a bit underwhelming compared to it.Pesky Splinter posted:There's some good scenes in there, but it's the typical uneven BF quality; the first story is good, but it's practically stand-alone. The second's pretty garbage (Reverse werewolves, seriously?). The third is alright, but feels like it needs expanding on (it could have also been the main introduction story really). And the final one...starts off strong, flags in the middle, and then it seems like everything is rather rushed towards the end; the real standout is Baker's regeneration scene. I dunno really, the thing as a whole is ok, but lacks polish. Yeah, the second one isn't great, but there's some good Charley stuff in there. The final one gets messy at points, too, but Colin does wonders with the big speeches. The very end is definitely a rush, though, and I have to say I completely lost my way a couple of times and am still not entirely sure what happened and why. Mel was hardly even in the last one, too, and passes out before Six can even say so much as a goodbye to her (though I suppose Time and the Rani is to blame for this). I thought the Valeyard was handled surprisingly well, though (aside from the dumb black ops stuff), and his scenes with the Doctor alone carry a lot of the third and fourth episodes. He's way better here than he was in Trial, that's for sure. Forktoss fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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CaptainYesterday posted:There's always Spiral Scratch for the last Sixth Doctor story. Or Time's Champi 
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The War Machines is pretty great too.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Time Flight REAP WHAT YOU SOW
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Even the DVD cover for Time-Flight is sloppy and terrible. Everyone looks like their pictures were cut out of a magazine by a three-year-old. Nyssa's missing an ear.
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Inspired by the other Hartnell-watchers in the thread, I rewatched The Daleks just now too. I still think the original camera-shutter lens design on the Daleks' eyestalks is really cool, and I would like to argue about what is the best Dalek eyepiece design now please. Speaking of Dalek eyes, however, when did the single eye appear on the mutant creature itself? Watching this, I just realised they're just messy blobs of tentacles without many defining features in all their Classic Who appearances, I think (not counting this, where it has a weird claw thing). Is the eye purely a New Series thing, or does it come from the novelisations or original scripts or something? It's just always felt so natural I never thought to think it hasn't actually always been there. EDIT: Jerusalem posted:In addition to the continuity references to this decades old story, they also throw in some characters from Big Finish's own continuity, such as the return of the snooty Time Lord Straxus last seen in the first EDA season's finale. It reeks a little of the return of a pet character, Straxus isn't really a strong enough character to warrant a return, I imagine very few people feel strongly enough one way or another about him, and any nameless Time Lord could have been just as effective. Straxus is in about seventy other stories, too, and I can't imagine there's anyone anywhere who really cares about him one way or another apart from Nick Briggs, I guess. He's probably second only to Nimrod and The Forge in terms of BF writers' dumb pet characters shoehorned into unrelated stories for no reason. Forktoss fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Fil5000 posted:He gets played by Peter Egan and Toby Jones in Dark Eyes though, which is pretty great. See, I didn't even remember that was him, because he's actually good and interesting in Dark Eyes.
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CobiWann posted:As for the Valeyard being a CIA Black Ops Weapon, I choose to believe it was a red herring to have the Doctor waste time seeking an audience with the High Council. After listening to The Brink of Death, I read up on The Time's Champion a bit (which was a rejected Sixth Doctor regeneration story pitched for the Past Doctor Adventures novel line, later released as a charity book) and I have to say, super-convoluted and ultra-fanwanky though the whole thing obviously is, the Valeyard being a kind of dark Watcher is actually a pretty cool idea.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It does feature one of my favourite Billy Fluffs, The best one is still "I'm not a mountain goat and I prefer walking to any day. And I hate climbing."
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