CobiWann posted:

Mooseontheloose posted:

Let's be real J-Ru the worst episode Moffat wrote is coming up and is The Time of the Doctor and was an awful regeneration episode which makes it double worse.

SiKboy posted:

Honestly, I think having Clara come back for another season is a mistake. That christmas special was the perfect goodbye to the character, with a lovely tacked on ending that wait, its not goodbye after all!

Burkion posted:

Yeah. That was a thing that happened.

And the key was never Clara herself, but the Doctor. We see him vanish from the Sled, waking up, and then he goes and finds Clara and all that implies from there. So thanks to the hastily added twist, all of those other people are implied to still be head crab fodder. Sucks to be them!

HD DAD posted:

You can thank Jenna Coleman for changing her mind about leaving at the very last second for that fake-out.

Burkion posted:

Wouldn't that be like a trapdoor spider or any of the numerous animals that look like their surroundings?

Angela Christine posted:

He's always pretty excited when he finds something he doesn't already know all about, and he's open minded to the possibility that unlikely new things could exist, like vampires (that turn out to be space fish). So it isn't out of character for him to explore the idea that there might be invisible things all around us. 12 doesn't delight in the unknown the way 11 did, so he's worried rather than excited.

Except . . . either there was nothing there and he freaked out about a kid playing a prank and unconsciously wrote on the chalkboard himself without noticing, or there really was something there at least some of the time, and he just walked away from it.

Burkion posted:

I'll never enjoy an episode that would have been exactly the same if our heroes had just staid home and took a nap.

What's the point of including the main characters if that's the case?

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If Clara and the Doctor hadn't been there the people of Earth would have blown up the moon instead of letting the space dragon hatch

Burkion posted:

Yes.

And Midnight affected the Doctor deeply and shook him to his core- he was helpless, but his presence still mattered.

Forest? No body was affected at all. We just learned that Clara is a lovely human being and very spiteful when pissed off, which amounted to dick all.

Moon? The only one who was affected at all was Clara which got swept under the rug in the very next episode.

Burkion posted:

If she ever comes back or becomes important or if anything happens because of her specifically sure I'll give you that.

Otherwise woohoo. A character who might as well of been nameless for all the impression she left was maybe affected by the dragoning of the moon.

Only more likely she just went to bed afterwards because gently caress it, new moon, might as well be a reset button. We already had the big 'moment that inspired humans to go into space' in Waters of Mars.

Burkion posted:

Yep that's what I meant entirely.

Clearly narrative importance for us as viewers and importance within the fictional universe are the exact same thing.

Ace job there champ.

Bicyclops posted:

Novels are usually better than the films that they're based on for me, but actually some of the few exceptions are with Roald Dahl.

If you asked me about which Chocolate Factory I thought was better, the original Gene Wilder movie or the novel, I'd actually have difficulty trying to answer. The book has a lot of really cool stuff that isn't in the movie, but the film just feels more focused and has more heart.

Similarly, I probably like Matilda better as a book, but the actors in the film were so genuine about the whole thing, and the ending of the movie feels like a better fit for me than the novel's, which is kind of about how being respected and treated like an adult has its pitfalls and stresses, and just feels a little sad.

Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:

If The Doctor was on another planet how did he communicate in real time with everyone millions or billions or trillions of miles away?

Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:

Yes yes yes, I hate this scene and every time Moffat goes and mettles with past stories. Even if he were still talented and capable of coherent, original and engaging stories with well written, well rounded characters it would be disgusting. He has actually framed himself as the entire reason the Doctor exist as he does, which is horseshit from a character perspective. Hartnell was a loveable selfish old man who was interested in himself, his granddaughter and occasionally a few other people, and over time grew into an adventurer who would stand up for the little guy. It wasn't until Troughton that he declared himself the enemy of evil everywhere, and even then he killed occasionally. For Moffat to go back and shove his convoluted half thought out trash into the core of the character is a disservice to the entire show.

That's why I don't accept the modern series as anything more than fan fiction (apart from season one) which occasionally puts out a good story worthy of the title. And when I'm getting all worked up over the plight of the show I remember there are lots of classic stories and good audios I've yet to watch and listen to, and I chill out.

MikeJF posted:

Not the case at all, except for when he was already aware of them. Remember when we all had to go a season watching him moan about how sad it was that Donna only got a single special?

Vitamin P on page 20 posted:

I just found a sheet of paper in a drawer from a few years ago, when I was babysitting a mates kids, and we wrote down Doctor Who episode ideas because they were mad into it at the time. Most were kind of dull but You can't go up or down even stairs, The moon is an egg and All the egyptians *illegible*, could have legs.

PriorMarcus posted:

Moffat has said that's going to be revealed this season, along with the reason that Twelve looks like the Roman dude Capaldi also played.

So... Wait and see I guess .