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Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

cable boots are the worsttttt

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NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

I'm crimping off a length of cable as I type this op

black pete
Mar 24, 2015

DON'T MIND ME!

I'LL MAKE JOKES ABOUT RAPE.

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

so what actually happens if you wire one end with A and the other with B?

Lol

black pete
Mar 24, 2015

DON'T MIND ME!

I'LL MAKE JOKES ABOUT RAPE.
Anymore dumb noob questions op? Want to know the difference between a router and a switch? What a patch cable is? Ask away.

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

deutcsh AS or go back to your playskool connector

Blackula69
Apr 1, 2007

DEHUMANIZE  YOURSELF  &  FACE  TO  BLACULA

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

remember the days before everything had crossover detection? they made those little plug adapters to turn a regular cable into crossover and vice versa

also rollover cables lol

why were crossover cables ever a thing

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
cisco

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

Blackula69 posted:

why were crossover cables ever a thing

because crossover detection and swapping which pins do what internally is non-trivial

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

because crossover detection and swapping which pins do what internally is non-trivial

yeah, mdi/x is really good+cool

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Blackula69 posted:

why were crossover cables ever a thing

i still look for the uplink port on switches when going to plug stuff in

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

hobbesmaster posted:

i still look for the uplink port on switches when going to plug stuff in

well it's not like accidentally using the port configured for trunking is going to go well for anyone

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Sniep posted:

a 9 pin DIN to rj45 adapter designed to convert a ethernet-wired cable to work for cisco serial

..forever being stolen from your bag and never put back when you need one

is this the real reason they started making one piece baby-blues?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:

is this the real reason they started making one piece baby-blues?

no it's so they could charge you for them

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I'm crimping off a length of cable as I type this op

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

~ shameful ~





Soiled Meat

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I'm crimping off a length of cable as I type this op

it aint easy

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

I crimped so hard and got so far

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
good thread

big crimpin

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

Captain Foo posted:

I crimped so hard and got so far

but one of the ends, it didnt even match upppp

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

pram posted:

tell me about memorizing subnets op. u loving dunce. u lil ccna bitch.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
:chome:

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
big crimpin
makin' leads
big crimpin my network feeds

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

lol if this is how you crimp cable

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

if you must,

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

idk what's up with the wire order. that's not the point

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

du -hast posted:

lol if this is how you crimp cable

:thejoke:

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer
i dont understand why cables come in twisted pairs if that's not even practical for real use
is it just a manufacturing thing?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

i dont understand why cables come in twisted pairs if that's not even practical for real use
is it just a manufacturing thing?

what

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


gently caress youuuuuuuuuuu

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



Ur Getting Fatter posted:

i dont understand why cables come in twisted pairs if that's not even practical for real use
is it just a manufacturing thing?

:staredog:

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

i dont understand why cables come in twisted pairs if that's not even practical for real use
is it just a manufacturing thing?

are you serious

Captain Foo posted:

gently caress youuuuuuuuuuu

when i used to be a cj i had a co-worker make cables like that and they were like "look it's fine, they always work fine, no one cares"

darthzeta88
May 31, 2013

by Pragmatica

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

i dont understand why cables come in twisted pairs if that's not even practical for real use
is it just a manufacturing thing?

Why do they even come shielded when unshielded is cheaper?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

when i used to be a cj i had a co-worker make cables like that and they were like "look it's fine, they always work fine, no one cares"

gross

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

~ shameful ~





Soiled Meat

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

darthzeta88 posted:

Why do they even come shielded when unshielded is cheaper?

UTP is certainly cheaper than STP, STP does help out a lot when you have EMI problems

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

hobbesmaster posted:

UTP is certainly cheaper than STP, STP does help out a lot when you have EMI problems

i thought stp is actually worse unless both ends are properly grounded, which is unlikely, so the shielding actually adds interference and makes things worse most of the time?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

unless you really really need S(c)TP you should basically always just use UTP and if you have to have S(cTP) strongly consider whether or not you wouldn't be better off w/ fiber

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

i thought stp is actually worse unless both ends are properly grounded, which is unlikely, so the shielding actually adds interference and makes things worse most of the time?

well yes if you don't ground it you have a floating antenna

Captain Foo posted:

unless you really really need S(c)TP you should basically always just use UTP and if you have to have S(cTP) strongly consider whether or not you wouldn't be better off w/ fiber

yeah fiber with zero possibility of EMI problems is of course the best bet. i've never been involved in infrastructure decisions like that so i have no idea what it costs or how practical the grounding stuff is for normal networking. we use STP for an industrial embedded device but of course we control both ends of that and its supposed to go into bad environments, i definitely agree its pretty niche

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A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!
also remember to get the right kind of plugs for solid core wire vs stranded wire

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