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Namtab posted:Fate zero came second It came before this anime, which shaped audience expectations in the same way any good show by the same studio will. Expecting UBW to be an actual sequel is daft, sure, but it's not surprising folks might want it to carry over a little of the same magic.
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YggdrasilTM posted:...No, she said "I don't know what happened, but in the past you clearly wanted to be a hero of justice". Which transitions in the episode in which Kotomine finds his dead father, decides to become evil and kills Tokiomi. All of that said, this debate is just quibbling over specifics and minor details since from the start I believed that we'd come to the same conclusion about Saber and Kotomine's relationship and how she feels about his ideal compared to Shirou's.
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For the record there is I'm fact a Saber/Shirou powow about Kiritsugu in Fate, and what she says (and Zero elaborates on this) is that she found him ruthless, abhorrent, and to the very end never understood who he was or why he did anything.
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Jun 28, 2015 14:48
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I didn't care that UBW wasn't a real sequel to Zero I just didn't like it because it was a bad anime, in my opinion.
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Jun 28, 2015 14:54
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Kiritsugu sucks
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Jun 28, 2015 14:55
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Yeah Shirou spends much of Fate talking up Kiritsugu until Saber finally says essentially "OK, are we talking about two completely different people or something?"
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Jun 28, 2015 14:56
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Namtab posted:So as I pray, unlimited shitposts FTFY
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Jun 28, 2015 16:28
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Rodyle posted:For the record there is I'm fact a Saber/Shirou powow about Kiritsugu in Fate, and what she says (and Zero elaborates on this) is that she found him ruthless, abhorrent, and to the very end never understood who he was or why he did anything. I thought at some point she admitted Kiritsugu's final decision in regards to the Grail was the correct one, even if she had no idea why it was happening at the time.
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Jun 28, 2015 16:52
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ETB posted:FTFY Thanks
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Sylphid posted:I thought at some point she admitted Kiritsugu's final decision in regards to the Grail was the correct one, even if she had no idea why it was happening at the time. Speaking of which, I have always found it interesting that Gil knows that the Grail is a Servant
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Jun 28, 2015 17:06
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Fate Zero is the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy. Except more entertaining. It was flashy and added a bunch of awkward lines that never quite matched up with the original content. basically what I'm saying is Archer Shot first. Either way, I thoroughly enjoyed this series. Yeah it had some flaws, but I have to agree with Beef, for someone familiar with the work, which lets face it, is basically the target audience, it hit all the right notes. I kind of want to watch it all back to back again. I'm going to miss it 
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Jun 28, 2015 17:12
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Rodyle posted:Yes, once the grail's nature is revealed. When you've had the black goop inside of you, you begin to know how it functions.
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Jun 28, 2015 17:53
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That innuendo doesn't work very well.
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Jun 28, 2015 17:55
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Once you go black, you need a black hole.
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Jun 28, 2015 17:56
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Innuendo
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Beef Chief posted:When you've had the black goop inside of you, you begin to know how it functions.
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Beef Chief posted:Once you go black, you need a black hole. Good enough.
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Shanakin posted:Fate Zero is the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy. Except more entertaining. It was flashy and added a bunch of awkward lines that never quite matched up with the original content. Basicly? People complaining about things from Fate/Zero not showing up, is like people complaining Jar Jar is not running around with the Rebels in A New Hope.
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Jun 28, 2015 18:07
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In the next release, old Kotomine will be digitally replaced with young Kotomine.
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Jun 28, 2015 18:10
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Personally I'm just glad UBW is done so they can get on to HF, My Favorite of the three routes. I hope it will be good!
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Jun 28, 2015 18:21
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I hope it's bad because I want you to be sad
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Jun 28, 2015 18:22
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Beef Chief posted:I hope it's bad because I want you to be sad
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Jun 28, 2015 18:29
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I wake up to 52 shitposts, good job assholes. Honestly, I will not say that the story/adaption of UBW is perfect or even good, but the people who have been complaining sound really hyperbolic about the most minor poo poo. And then you still complain when people give explanations. Namtab, I like your forum chant, kudos tho
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Jun 28, 2015 18:50
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This thread has made me hate Fate Zero. Goddamn. "B-but Fate Zero!!!" 
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Jun 28, 2015 18:51
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I don't hate Fate/Zero, I hate the people in this thread who go, "But Fate/Zero,"
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Jun 28, 2015 18:53
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It's not that crazy to want the show to go a bit more in depth into how some things from Zero relate to the current story in a way that the source material never could. And it's also pretty reasonable for someone who hasn't read the vn to wonder how the series went from an actually pretty decent show to this mess. The worst thing about the thread is the defensive whining that seems to pop up whenever someone so much as mentions the word zero.
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:It's not that crazy to want the show to go a bit more in depth into how some things from Zero Help, eyes blurring... concentration fading...
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:It's not that crazy to want the show to go a bit more in depth into how some things from Zero relate to the current story in a way that the source material never could. And it's also pretty reasonable for someone who hasn't read the vn to wonder how the series went from an actually pretty decent show to this mess. Why couldn't they change yoda's talking in empire strikes back to reflect midiclorians
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:The worst thing about the thread is the defensive whining that seems to pop up whenever someone so much as mentions the word zero.
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:It's not that crazy to want the show to go a bit more in depth into how some things from Zero relate to the current story in a way that the source material never could. And it's also pretty reasonable for someone who hasn't read the vn to wonder how the series went from an actually pretty decent show to this mess. make the show the way I want darn you
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Jun 28, 2015 19:22
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:The worst thing about the thread is the defensive whining that seems to pop up whenever someone so much as mentions the word zero. Luvia wasn't mispronouncing shirou's name she was saying zhero which is why Rin got so angry
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Jun 28, 2015 19:22
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All the children itt need to read the vn or the lp of the vn
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Jun 28, 2015 19:23
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You know if there's one thing worse than Zero Posts it's Seorin's hilarious collection of gay jokes. Do not read the lp
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Jun 28, 2015 19:25
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But you just said the gay jokes ar efunny why would anyone NOT read the lp
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I guess I can't argue with that logic
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Jun 28, 2015 19:35
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Fans of other sorts of things that get adapted into various media seem to consider the various adaptations of their thing as basically independent (see the ASOIAF fans comparing "book Stannis" to "TV Stannis"); anime fans don't do this (see all the attempts to claim things in this show make sense because of...things the show never shew* or anyone claiming things that happen only in an anime adaptation of a manga "didn't happen"). 'sup with all that? *Shut up spellcheck, that's a word.
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Jun 28, 2015 23:08
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Well the TV adapatation of ASOIAF has different stuff happening in it compared to the book, while this adaptation of FSN is basically identical to the original with a few bonus scenes.
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Because most anime adaptations are nothing but glorified advertisements for their source material, which is not how it goes with Game of Thrones or whatever.
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Jun 28, 2015 23:11
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Dzhay posted:'sup with all that?
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EDIT: Everyone said the thing.
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