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No one is using this argument to try and get Tony Abbott to change tack, he doesn't actually believe in his stated goals so trying to engage him on them is pointless. It is about making more people realise what a loving damaging clown Tony Abbott is.
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Gough Suppressant posted:And I think that that is something worth attempting to draw attention to. Your position seems to be that hypocrisy shouldn't be pointed out if the person never had any intentions to be anything other than hypocritical in the first place. Oh feel free to have as many articles about the hypocrisy of politicians as you like. It's a well that will never run dry. However, this article is just attempted segue to a topic dear to The Drum. Gough Suppressant posted:No one is using this argument to try and get Tony Abbott to change tack, he doesn't actually believe in his stated goals so trying to engage him on them is pointless. It is about making more people realise what a loving damaging clown Tony Abbott is. Well if writing crap ("Bali 9: our selective compassion has come undone") is good for the cause no surprise to see The Drum getting on board.
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Gough Suppressant posted:And you're only 1400% over represented in fatalities based on kilometres travelled. True, but Recordial forgot the most important part of riding a motorcycle: it's cool.
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Graic Gabtar posted:Oh feel free to have as many articles about the hypocrisy of politicians as you like. It's a well that will never run dry. However, this article is just attempted segue to a topic dear to The Drum. What on earth are you talking about?
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motorbikes are the way of the future just ask any pedestrian in Hanoi because 80 people on motorbikes is a far more efficient use of resources than one bus
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QUACKTASTIC posted:What on earth are you talking about? It's best not to question Craig. Or interact with him at all really
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if you are seriously advocating greater motorcycle use in Australia please remember you are literally asking a developed country to be more like Cambodia
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Graic Gabtar posted:Oh feel free to have as many articles about the hypocrisy of politicians as you like. It's a well that will never run dry. However, this article is just attempted segue to a topic dear to The Drum. It's like why people bother responding to you. They are pointing out your lovely reasoning because doing so adds to the public discourse. They recognise that they won't change your mind, mostly because you don't actually believe the positions you hold.
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Not that Australia has nothing to learn from south east asia, but in terms of urban transportation, having literally a million dudes on motorbikes is less than optimal.
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Negligent posted:Not that Australia has nothing to learn from south east asia, but in terms of urban transportation, having literally a million dudes on motorbikes is less than optimal. drat straight we could.  wasting an entire motorbike just to carry one, or at most two people. Such a bloody waste. Seriously the amount of people a decent bike to can carry after you attach a side car is pretty ridiculous. There is some safety issues to consider though. Looking up road safety stats for developing countries is usually a very depressingly bad idea.
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Apr 30, 2015 11:31
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Negligent posted:Not that Australia has nothing to learn from south east asia, but in terms of urban transportation, having literally a million dudes on motorbikes is less than optimal. Not even Cambodians want to live in Cambodia. http://www.theage.com.au/world/as-refugees-set-to-arrive-for-resettling-cambodians-keep-leaving-20150430-1mwhm8.html
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dr_rat posted:Looking up road safety stats for developing countries is usually a very depressingly bad idea. [/spoiler] Among many contributing factors: They almost always have poorly developed roads, in many cases non-existent street lighting and poor emergency response which all adds to the list of injuries and fatalities in these developing countries with high levels of motorcycle use.
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Apr 30, 2015 11:36
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freebooter posted:True, but Recordial forgot the most important part of riding a motorcycle: it's cool. Yeah haha I figured I was already coming across quite smugly, so I didn't bother mentioning how great it makes you feel etc, and how cool it is in general lol. Carry on everyone.
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Jesus guys it's not that hard to wrap your head around. 2 wheelers are cheap and convenient, and have less of an impact on pollution, traffic and parking. On the other hand you are statistically more likely to be smashed to a pulp, no avoiding that. They aren't meant to be an alternative to public transport, they should be an alternative to having another car on the road. Especially now when more people live alone and dont need a car to ferry around a family etc..
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Apr 30, 2015 11:49
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A 110c Honda wave is perfectly good family transport for up to four people. Who needs a Commodore?
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Apr 30, 2015 12:02
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Bring back the horse and cart.
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Negligent posted:Not that Australia has nothing to learn from south east asia, but in terms of urban transportation, having literally a million dudes on motorbikes is less than optimal. ur progressie hide was saved by the skin of its teeth....their noble buddhism/hindoo majesty has been presered by implication....thank the lord (shiva)
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Who wants to sit around waiting for the bus when you could be riding your own motorbike?
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Apr 30, 2015 12:08
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You don't mention how much nicer it is to be in a sealed vehicle when the weather is bad.
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Apr 30, 2015 12:08
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A raincoat costs less than a dollar. #firstworldproblems
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Gough Suppressant posted:It's like why people bother responding to you. They are pointing out your lovely reasoning because doing so adds to the public discourse. They recognise that they won't change your mind, mostly because you don't actually believe the positions you hold. Hey I'm always up for a reasonable chat and to be (occasionally) convinced otherwise. However, this whole "lovely reasoning"/I know what you really believe malarkey is basically auspol for "doesn't agree with us" so that's kind of meh to be honest. Kind of up there with the whole, "Don't talk to him! For the love of Gods don't talk to him!" thing you guys have if someone strays from the group think. Anyway, it's poo poo article is my point of view and you're welcome to your own on it.
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Apr 30, 2015 12:12
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death to graic *is agianst death penaltty*
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Actually with the lovely AUD a raincoat cost fractionally more then a dollar but still represents good value compared to getting soaked
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Orkin Mang posted:death to graic *is agianst death penaltty* The piss penalty.
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Graic Gabtar posted:Hey I'm always up for a reasonable chat and to be (occasionally) convinced otherwise. However, this whole "lovely reasoning"/I know what you really believe malarkey is basically auspol for "doesn't agree with us" so that's kind of meh to be honest. Kind of up there with the whole, "Don't talk to him! For the love of Gods don't talk to him!" thing you guys have if someone strays from the group think. ur right in every questionthat doesnt ahve to do with moral feeling. u are unlearned inthe art of sympathy
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"An advanced city is not one where the poor can drive around in a car but one where the rich use public transport" Well, cya.
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Has anyone noticed that people on social media who have been going on about how people should focus on the earthquake in Nepal or homelessness in Australia (for example) instead of the Bali executions are the same people that clearly also don't give a toss about the earthquake in Nepal or homelessness in Australia?
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Apr 30, 2015 12:44
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I commute on flying reindeers fygm
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Birdstrike posted:I commute on flying reindeers Yeah but you had to move to the North Pole due to being on a registry in every country.
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Gough Suppressant posted:Yeah but you had to move to the North Pole due to being on a registry in every country. noice
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KILLED WEARING HIS FOOTY JERSEY Still managed to find a way to work NRL into the front page. Also the two finger salute is kind of strange because it's really a British insult. I guess a one finger salute on the front page would have been too offensive... (though personally I find the Courier offensive enough already)
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If he was a real Aussie he would have died with a falafel in his hand
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Pred1ct posted:They aren't meant to be an alternative to public transport, they should be an alternative to having another car on the road. Especially now when more people live alone and dont need a car to ferry around a family etc.. This is the main reason why I switched back to riding a motorbike after changing jobs and losing my company car.
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New thread because you all suck and didn't give me a choice: Auspol May.
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