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Nonsense posted:The White Phosphorous crew is in a certain thread with another acronym. To clarify I meant white power. There is no white phosphorus use in Baltimore. There was a race riot due to the glacial speed of American justice.
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My Imaginary GF posted:There is no white phosphorus use in Baltimore. There was a race riot due to the glacial speed of American justice. I agree MIGF.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Quote of a day: "While no one condones looting, on the other hand, one can understand the pent-up feelings that may result from decades of repression and people who have had members of their family killed by that regime, for them to be taking their feelings out on that regime," he said. "And I don't think there's anyone in any of those pictures ... (who wouldn't) accept it as part of the price of getting from a repressed regime to freedom." I thought he was talking about Baltimore until I clicked the article.
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I love all the people talking about Japan whitewashing what happened in ww2 because it's not like we live in a country that has always done it's best to whitewash and pretend it really want as bad as some people say for things like our treatment of the native Americans, slavery, internment camps for japanese-americans in ww2, and all the other crap that we as a nation have done that we do our best to ignore or pretend it wasn't that bad, and that is how it is passed on to the next generation. Is Japan different because they didn't win and only the victors get to rewrite history?
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Khisanth Magus posted:I love all the people talking about Japan whitewashing what happened in ww2 because it's not like we live in a country that has always done it's best to whitewash and pretend it really want as bad as some people say for things like our treatment of the native Americans, slavery, internment camps for japanese-americans in ww2, and all the other crap that we as a nation have done that we do our best to ignore or pretend it wasn't that bad, and that is how it is passed on to the next generation. Is Japan different because they didn't win and only the victors get to rewrite history? Japan owes every Pearl Harbor vet compensation, not to mention 100 million PRC citizens. The United States owes several red-states to Native Americans. Also MIGF is correct in that there is bad history in grade-school about our past, but if you leave primary school you will meet the truth at some point. Nowhere in Japan is this allowed.
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Khisanth Magus posted:I love all the people talking about Japan whitewashing what happened in ww2 because it's not like we live in a country that has always done it's best to whitewash and pretend it really want as bad as some people say for things like our treatment of the native Americans, slavery, internment camps for japanese-americans in ww2, and all the other crap that we as a nation have done that we do our best to ignore or pretend it wasn't that bad, and that is how it is passed on to the next generation. Is Japan different because they didn't win and only the victors get to rewrite history? We admit those things happened and teach them in schools. When's the last time Japanese schools taught about their rape camps?
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zoux posted:This is why it's pointless to argue with people. Lady was tweeting fake racist looting photos and: something something newsbusters
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Nonsense posted:
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Yeah that twitter exchange pretty much sums up everything that's wrong with America.
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Khisanth Magus posted:I love all the people talking about Japan whitewashing what happened in ww2 because it's not like we live in a country that has always done it's best to whitewash and pretend it really want as bad as some people say for things like our treatment of the native Americans, slavery, internment camps for japanese-americans in ww2, and all the other crap that we as a nation have done that we do our best to ignore or pretend it wasn't that bad, and that is how it is passed on to the next generation. Is Japan different because they didn't win and only the victors get to rewrite history? My Lai was literally as bad as Nanking, Okinawa, and Comfort Women? I could see seeking some sort of acknowledgement that poo poo like the Dresden firestorm or the atomic bombings were atrocities if not a grade-A war crimes due to being conducted against cities full of refugees/civilians with debatable military importance but there's a layer of deniability that isn't there with stuff like kidnapping women as sex slaves.
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Not to deny the bad poo poo that happened in WWII by America, but I think the really horrendous modern poo poo America did on the same level as Japan's happened over the post-war years usually done by the CIA in secret. Stuff that is probably still classified. And when it comes to War on Terror poo poo compared to Cold War poo poo, we've got decades until it's seen fit to be mentioned as an aside on page 17. There is plenty of denial, and while people who study history in college will know, anyone before, probably not.
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FAUXTON posted:My Lai was literally as bad as Nanking, Okinawa, and Comfort Women? There's a strong argument that the US could have prevented the holocaust but didn't because we didn't like the jews much either. I'm not convinced, but its still a strong argument. I've always found this article very interesting on the topic: http://harpers.org/archive/2011/05/why-im-a-pacifist/
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On Terra Firma posted:Let's make this happen. Yeah, I'm totally on board with trading some beads for Oklahoma, Montana, Kansas, Wyoming, and the Dakotas at this point, and while we're at it we should throw in Mississippi, and Louisiana to give them some port access.
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USPol May: You encounter TOM COTTON wielding [IGNORANCE OF] THE CONSTITUTION. He appears to want to debate you...Joementum posted:If Operation Jade Helm 15 is a plot by Obama to use the military to overthrow the US government, what was the goal of Operations Jade Helm 1 through 14? Practice. We didn't land on the moon until Apollo 11.
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Nonsense posted:Japan owes every Pearl Harbor vet compensation, not to mention 100 million PRC citizens. That's not true, Japanese textbooks have it all, here's a dude who knows what he'a talking about ozza posted:Don't know where you're getting your info from, but this is incorrect. The most commonly-used Japanese textbooks include information about Japan's atrocities across Asia, including the Nanjing massacre, comfort women, and Unit 731. The charge that can be leveled against them is that these most-commonly-used textbooks contain little jingoism and present no concrete historical narrative to students. They just present bare facts, without much moralising or guidance to students on how they should react to these things. The text books that actively whitewash history and actually omit Japan's atrocities are a very small minority, and adopted only by a tiny percentage of schools. This article explains it better than I have, alongide comparison to Chinese, South Korean and American text books: http://www.nippon.com/en/in-depth/a00703/ Basically Abe is a dick who solicits support from the Japanese far right, and the population at large is mostly indifferent to the war though it's all covered in school, and does not castigate the far right as much as it should
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icantfindaname posted:That's not true, Japanese textbooks have it all, here's a dude who knows what he'a talking about The tea party should get those megaphone trucks from the crazy Japanese right wingers.
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I wonder what Rumsfeld thinks about all this "looting"? e: a word
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Yeah this whole war apology thing appears to be not an apology from the nation of Japan but an apology by Abe for being a douchebag over the war.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Yeah this whole war apology thing appears to be not an apology from the nation of Japan but an apology by Abe for being a douchebag over the war. Expecting a right wing but from any country to apologize for being a douchebag about anything is a clear sign of being way too optimistic for this world.
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Munkeymon posted:USPol May: You encounter TOM COTTON wielding [IGNORANCE OF] THE CONSTITUTION. He appears to want to debate you... I like this one.
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Khisanth Magus posted:I love all the people talking about Japan whitewashing what happened in ww2 because it's not like we live in a country that has always done it's best to whitewash and pretend it really want as bad as some people say for things like our treatment of the native Americans, slavery, internment camps for japanese-americans in ww2, and all the other crap that we as a nation have done that we do our best to ignore or pretend it wasn't that bad, and that is how it is passed on to the next generation. Is Japan different because they didn't win and only the victors get to rewrite history? Except for the fact that while we have plenty of shitbags who say 'ya know slavery wasn't that bad' but still teach that yes we enslaved black people. This is pretty different from an active government denial of multiple war crimes including poo poo like 'comfort women' who's children never saw any acknowledgement or compensation because of this.
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Khisanth Magus posted:Expecting a right wing but from any country to apologize for being a douchebag about anything is a clear sign of being way too optimistic for this world. You expect it from a nation which you've nuked, especially when they come to your Congress to speak.
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icantfindaname posted:That's not true, Japanese textbooks have it all, here's a dude who knows what he'a talking about I stand corrected. I imagined there to be a force of Japanese citizens who want to progress with its neighbors, not remain antagonistic to them at a foreign policy level, and some day those people will hopefully take the reins of power in Japan.
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Nonsense posted:I stand corrected. I imagined there to be a force of American citizens who want to progress with its neighbors, not remain antagonistic to them at a foreign policy level, and some day those people will hopefully take the reins of power in America. ~Me in 2005.
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Trabisnikof posted:~Me in 2005. The wait is not much longer my friends!
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Of course, the United States government forfeited the right to press Japan on its actions in World War II after George W Bush lost to then-Japanese PM Junichiro Koizumi in a high-stakes match of mahjong.
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JT Jag posted:Of course, the United States government forfeited the right to press Japan on its actions in World War II after George W Bush lost to then-Japanese PM Junichiro Koizumi in a high-stakes match of mahjong. Bush can't do anything right.
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JT Jag posted:Of course, the United States government forfeited the right to press Japan on its actions in World War II after George W Bush lost to then-Japanese PM Junichiro Koizumi in a high-stakes match of mahjong. Really? I woulda pegged W. as more a pachinko man, myself.
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Khisanth Magus posted:I love all the people talking about Japan whitewashing what happened in ww2 because it's not like we live in a country that has always done it's best to whitewash and pretend it really want as bad as some people say for things like our treatment of the native Americans, slavery, internment camps for japanese-americans in ww2, and all the other crap that we as a nation have done that we do our best to ignore or pretend it wasn't that bad, and that is how it is passed on to the next generation. Is Japan different because they didn't win and only the victors get to rewrite history? Guess before every time I post about the atrocities one country has committed, I'll type out an exhaustive list of every atrocity committed by any country, then I'll be allowed to talk. Do I have to do all the central and south American tribes too? Those are gonna be hard...
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My Imaginary GF posted:Really? I woulda pegged W. as more a pachinko man, myself.
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JT Jag posted:Well, you know W. Bush Senior is really good at mahjong and the moment Koizumi said that his father couldn't beat him W couldn't help but take the challenge. Did he take the opportunity to unleash Chang?
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JT Jag posted:Well, you know W. Bush Senior is really good at mahjong and the moment Koizumi said that his father couldn't beat him W couldn't help but take the challenge. I kinda miss the naivete of the Bush era. With W., you knew where things stood. With Obama? He's got this nuance, he's either going with #TeamVal or #TeamDick for the day. With W., you knew everyone was on the same page.
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In case you're curious, all of this actually happened. in a manga
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quote:Speaking to members of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and the media, Cruz pointedly attacked the president for repeated missed opportunities to lead on race issues since he came into office. http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/29/politics/ted-cruz-obama-racial-tensions-election-2016/index.html Ugh, that video. Cruz is a terrible speaker who thinks of himself as a great speaker.
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Mr Interweb posted:Ugh, that video. Cruz is a terrible speaker who thinks of himself as a great speaker. Well, he's smart enough to know that he can't just say "Not be black" out loud.
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karlor posted:Obama pls nuke Vegas so we can live out our Fallout fantasies Vegas was spared in the atomic war preceding the events of the Fallout series which what allowed it to become a hub of commerce and stability. 
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On Terra Firma posted:Well other than "be black" what exactly has Obama done to increase tensions? Nobody ever gets specific
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Vegas was spared in the atomic war preceding the events of the Fallout series which what allowed it to become a hub of commerce and stability. ...god drat it I'm going to have to play it again, aren't I
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